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nolongeraslave:

--- Quote from: Hopalong on November 15, 2011, 10:57:14 PM ---Yes, you tell a dealer you want to take it to an independent mechanic, and they let you take it off the lot for a few hours.
If you buy a dealer-certified used vehicle, though, the independent mechanic's check isn't as critical.

The best price is what you get from a private seller and in those cases it is critical to have a mechanic go over it carefully.
And then use that information, balanced with the KellyBlueBook value, to offer the price you'll pay.

In my case, I've been lucky. Two years ago I had to sell my nice newish car (it was used but lovely, an Accord) to pay the lawyer. i was in dire need of a cheap car. A friend had an aging but high-end minivan he offered, and I bought it from him at $1800. I've had no problems with it and have taken it on a few trips. It's silly (imagine long white=haired "soccer mom") but it's very comfortable.,

Financially, the very very best way to buy a car, especially if you have some time to plan for it, is to save very aggressively and buy it for cash. No car payment at all...

Hops

--- End quote ---

How long have you had the car?  I drive my cars a LOT from work to the city to see friends. Luckily, this car of mine is paid off now...but in the future, you never know.

Thanks a bunch of the information Hopalong.  I think we learn much more when put ourselves out there and risk looking like we don't it all.   The car salesman a few years ago even asked me "Are you sure you want to buy your own car? Your parents are paying for this one."  ;)

sKePTiKal:
Hi NLS...

Well, you know how an eye socket is a concave depression in a face? From the brow, to the crease in the lid... and then it curves back out to the eye and the cheek below? Right at the crease in my eyelid.. there is a saggy bump that droops; it's most obvious at the outside of my eye. Looks like my upper lid is swollen or something. It sticks out rather than curves back in & then up to the brow. It's always been this way - it's not a product of aging. Not quite like a neanderthal forehead - it's just the flesh there - like my skull's eyesockets are too small to support that much flesh & skin.

Liquid eyeliner I haven't tried yet. I'm not overly confident that I can see what I'm doing well enough (this year I broke down and bought a magnifying mirror) nor that my hand won't shake & I'll end up poking myself in the eye. I don't know whether I should try to apply it with my eye open... or closed... or stretch it down a little with the other hand?? I used to be pretty good with a brush & linework... on a flat surface.

I was talking about applying powdered eyeliner with a brush; it gives a softer line I think? And then there are pencils... but the pencils are too hard to leave a mark on me; like the difference between a #2 pencil lead and a soft pastel or charcoal pencil.

It's funny; I feel like this isn't all that important! I really don't wear makeup that much - because I don't dress up that much. And it seems way silly to put makeup on to say... rake leaves or scrub floors. If I'm going out on the water or to the beach... why wear makeup? If I'm just running to the grocery store... or the post office... or playing with boys, with their boy-toys... makeup just doesn't "count" as being important.

On the other hand, I'm another 300 miles south... and I've been noticing that women here have DO have makeup on daily - even for doing chores. It's a cultural thing... and a women's social thing... that is foreign to me. I completely don't understand the women who can't be "seen" - even by husbands - without their "face" on. I'm trying to understand... I'm trying it all out to see if it fits me because I finally have time to practice - experiment - that I didn't have before. It's more for that stifled fashionista that got re-directed into other things at 13 and never had the chance to hang out with girlfriends, and make each other up. It's a side of me that got locked up and not indulged... because she was supposed to be "bad" for caring about things like that, according to the usual suspect.

Hopalong:
Hi NLAS...
I've had it for 2 years; it has 181,000 miles on it...it was very consistently maintained before
I got it and he gave me all the records.

I drive about 12 miles a day, average.
Highway mileage is less wear on a car than commuting or going around town, though.

Hops

Redhead Erin:
Phoenix--

About the eye makeup.  You are probably about my age--40 or so, right?  

First, you need a moisturizer whit sunscreen.  The higher SPF the better. Put it on and let is settle in f r at least 10 minutes.

You want to start with a base like this one.  Put it on your eyelid and pat it in with your pinkie finger. http://www.drugstore.com/search/search_results.asp?N=0&Ntx=mode%2Bmatchallpartial&Ntk=All&srchtree=5&Ntt=loreal+decrease&Go.x=0&Go.y=0

Then you will need a concealer like this one--light weight, liquid.  It will come in a little tube, and the lid will screw off and there will be a long stem with a sponge on it, inside the tube. choose a color that is just barely lighter than your skin.  No too much, or you will look like a reverse raccoon. Put it under your eyses and in that dark shadowy place between your eye and nose.  Pat it in with your pinkie and blend carefully.  http://www.drugstore.com/maybelline-fit-me-concealer-makeup-medium-25/qxp339106?catid=183547&fromsrch=consealor

Then Put your powder on.  

For eye shadow, the name if the game is to bring light into you eyes.  Start with a simple pre-mixed color pallate, like this one: http://www.drugstore.com/physicians-formula-eyebrightener-multi-colored-eyelighter-hint-of-berries-2770/qxp198590?catid=183538&fromsrch=physicain+formula+mineral+eye+shadow.
Throw out the stupid little brush they give you and get one that is about 1/2 inch wide, round, with a dome-shaped tip. You can get one at the art supply store, or try this: http://www.drugstore.com/covergirl-make-up-masters-eyeshadow-brush/qxp18968?catid=183638&fromsrch=eye+shadow+brush.

Load up the brush with eye shadow and then hold it with the bristles pointing up, and dab it over the lid and brow bone area, working form the outside corners to the inside.  You want to get just some subtle shading that is darker on the outside corners. When you get used to the one color, you can add a highlight and a contour.

Now abut that eyeliner: Whether you choose a liquid, a pencil, or some other form depends on the look you want.  I like to use a liquid because it gives a very definite line, and you can make it very fine or build it up very wide, depending on your taste. This picture is one where I used the technique I am explaining now, with a bronze shadow and a heavy liquid line http://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/110915/14/4e726e74d7735.jpg

Pencil is easier to use, but you have to invest in a good one.  The cheap ones are too hard.  Loreal is a good brand. Some pencils are self-sahrpening and osme are wood, which you have to sharpen.  If you get the wood one, also get a sharpener.  You can adjust whether you get a fine line or a thicker one by how wide you keep your tip.  You can also choose to put liner on just your top lid, or on both.  

To put the liner on, look straight at the mirror.  Tilt your head back and close your eye about half way.  (Think Maralyn Monroe).  Then pull slightly on the corner of the lid, until all the little creases are out.  Apply the liner from the inside corner to the outside.  Get it as close to the lash line as you can. If you want to put a little under the lower lashes, start at the outside and work in.  In this picture, I used a grey pencil on the top lids and very lightly on the lower ones, from the outside corner to about halfway in.  If you look closely, you can see where it stops. http://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/110915/14/4e726c745e2c7.jpg

Now for the final step-mascara! you have to have it, or your eyes will not stand out.  There are about a million different choices, but for startes you can choose something sort of relaxed and natural.  Because our lashes tend to grow shorter as we get older, a lightening mascara is a good choice.  This one claims its safe for contact lens wearers. http://www.drugstore.com/loreal-bare-naturale-lengthening-mascara-black-800/qxp195611?catid=183541&fromsrch=loreal+mascara.  I like loreal mascaras and liners.  The only ones I like better are Avon.

So there you have a basic eyes lesson.  If your brows are light, you may want to add some pencil or my favorite trick, brown shadow applied with a slant brush.  Otherwise, add some lipstick or gloss and some blush if you want, and you are done.

With practice, you should be able to put this on in 10 minutes.

BonesMS:
This may sound dumb but it created a LOT of problems when I was old enough to start noticing stuff......sex education.  Her Royal Queen !@#$ness REFUSED to discuss ANYTHING.  She handed me one of my late father's anthropology books and told me to read THAT!  I was no older than about eight years of age and MUCH of the scientific vocabulary in that textbook was WA-A-A-Y over my head!  When I asked what this word meant or that word meant, I was simply told to SHUT UP AND READ or called "RETARD" because I was struggling to understand a textbook that was originally written for professional anthropologists!  As a result, the "sex education" I got instead was at the hands of her pedophile boyfriend who even had the NERVE to pull some crap IN FRONT OF HER!!  All she did was laugh and egg him on, basically giving him permission to do whatever he wanted.  She never told me that I had a right to say NO as a very young child while I was being touched inappropriately.  In fact, I was beaten on for resisting and continuing to resist until I was old enough to call the cops on my own!  As far as she was concerned, I was nothing but HER PROPERTY to be USED for her self-gratification!

Hell of a way to get educated!

Bones

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