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Voicelessness and Emotional Survival => Voicelessness and Emotional Survival Message Board => Topic started by: Dr. Richard Grossman on December 08, 2013, 08:15:45 PM

Title: Voicelessness pop quiz!
Post by: Dr. Richard Grossman on December 08, 2013, 08:15:45 PM: OK voicelessness old-timers, here’s a pop quiz for you! Identify the actress who said:

“I paid school friends to go to the movies with me. I barely spoke until I was thirty. (My husband) and I recognized each other as born outsiders…Needing to please has always been my weakness.”

Also, the actress reports that before she (at 26 years of age) and her husband met, she had felt invisible.

Any guesses? No “googling”!

Richard

P.S. One hint: She played roles you would expect a “voiceless” actress to accept.
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Post by: Meh on December 08, 2013, 11:55:18 PM: No idea without cheating.

Voiceless actress seems like an Oxymoron
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Post by: gratitude28 on December 09, 2013, 01:07:02 AM: Hmmmmmm... no clue. Now I'm going to have to google it!
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Post by: gratitude28 on December 09, 2013, 01:12:01 AM: I have two guesses... but I'll wait for you to tell us :)
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Post by: BonesMS on December 09, 2013, 04:32:45 AM: Any clues as to how old this actress is?
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Post by: debkor on December 09, 2013, 04:46:10 PM: I'm thinking Garbo

I want to be alone.
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Post by: Dr. Richard Grossman on December 09, 2013, 09:08:21 PM: Bones: “Any clues as to how old this actress is?”

Hmmm. Her age seems younger and younger every day---still living.

tt: “ …her reclusiveness is rather well known to people my age.”

Excellent! She spent her late 20’s, along with her husband and infant as a virtual recluse.

teartracks and debkor: Was it Garbo?

No, but good guess!

Anyone else want to guess?

Richard
Title: Re: Voicelessness pop quiz!
Post by: BonesMS on December 10, 2013, 08:16:37 AM: Quote from: Dr. Richard Grossman on December 09, 2013, 09:08:21 PM
Bones: “Any clues as to how old this actress is?”

Hmmm. Her age seems younger and younger every day---still living.

tt: “ …her reclusiveness is rather well known to people my age.”

Excellent! She spent her late 20’s, along with her husband and infant as a virtual recluse.

teartracks and debkor: Was it Garbo?

No, but good guess!

Anyone else want to guess?

Richard

Is she middle-aged or Senior Citizen now?
Title: Re: Voicelessness pop quiz!
Post by: Dr. Richard Grossman on December 10, 2013, 08:46:42 AM: Hi Bones,

She's a "senior citizen," and (big hint) her ex-husband who was almost twice her age when they married, died within the past 10 years.

Richard
Title: Re: Voicelessness pop quiz!
Post by: BonesMS on December 10, 2013, 06:20:00 PM: Couldn't be Cher as in Sonny and Cher.

Still thinking.............................................
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Post by: Dr. Richard Grossman on December 10, 2013, 10:03:04 PM: Good guess, Bones. But definitely not Cher. Sonny did so much womanizing, I’m sure Cher felt completely invisible/voiceless after they were married. Anyone else want to guess before the answer is revealed?

Richard
Title: Re: Voicelessness pop quiz!
Post by: Hopalong on December 11, 2013, 07:19:29 AM: Mia Farrow?

Is there a prize?

Hops
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Post by: BonesMS on December 11, 2013, 02:43:07 PM: I also started thinking maybe Bo Derek.
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Post by: BonesMS on December 11, 2013, 02:47:46 PM: Quote from: Dr. Richard Grossman on December 10, 2013, 10:03:04 PM
Good guess, Bones. But definitely not Cher. Sonny did so much womanizing, I’m sure Cher felt completely invisible/voiceless after they were married. Anyone else want to guess before the answer is revealed?

Richard

I also remember how controlling Sonny was. I remember watching the two of them on a talk show, (can't remember if it was Dick Cavett or some other show), where Sonny told Cher in front of an audience that he was not going to allow her to wear something or other again! I remember thinking to myself, "WTF?!?!? Cher is NOT his daughter! Geez!" Their divorce was shortly after that fiasco.
Title: Re: Voicelessness pop quiz!
Post by: Hopalong on December 12, 2013, 06:59:52 AM: I guessed Mia Farrow but my post didn't post.

:)
Hops
Title: Re: Voicelessness pop quiz!
Post by: BonesMS on December 12, 2013, 08:10:23 AM: Quote from: Hopalong on December 12, 2013, 06:59:52 AM
I guessed Mia Farrow but my post didn't post.

:)
Hops

I don't think Mia Farrow ever married Woody Allen. (He's very much alive.) When she was married to Frank Sinatra, she didn't get pregnant during the marriage. However, it appeared they remained "Friends with Benefits" after the divorce based on her son's striking physical resemblance to Old Blue Eyes. (I think Woody Allen is having some angst about that.) I'm not sure if Andre' Previn is still alive or not.
Title: Re: Voicelessness pop quiz!
Post by: Dr. Richard Grossman on December 13, 2013, 11:02:32 AM: Hops: “Mia Farrow? Is there a prize?”

Nope, not Mia Farrow, but good guess. The prize: Induction into the Voicelessness Hall of Fame? (How’s that for an oxymoron, Green Bean?!!!). And, of course you get to post your accomplishment on Facebook, Twitter, etc...

Bones: “I also started thinking maybe Bo Derek.” No, but another good guess.

OK., time for another clue: The actress in question is, perhaps, best known for her work in European films.

Richard
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Post by: Twoapenny on December 13, 2013, 11:07:12 AM: Is she British or American? If British I'm thinking Helen Mirren? She might not be the right age.
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Post by: lighter on December 13, 2013, 12:39:02 PM: I don't know! I don't know!

Tell tell tell!

Lighter
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Post by: Hopalong on December 13, 2013, 01:42:25 PM: Sophia Loren?

Hops
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Post by: BonesMS on December 13, 2013, 04:46:45 PM: Brigitte Bardot?
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Post by: mudpuppy on December 13, 2013, 11:11:35 PM: Quote
She played roles you would expect a “voiceless” actress to accept.

Patty Duke. Get it?

mud
Title: Re: Voicelessness pop quiz!
Post by: sKePTiKal on December 14, 2013, 06:21:32 AM: Goldie Hawn? (I have no idea why she just popped into my head...)

or Sophia Loren?
Title: Re: Voicelessness pop quiz!
Post by: Dr. Richard Grossman on December 14, 2013, 06:51:57 PM: Twoapenny: “Is she British or American? If British I'm thinking Helen Mirren? She might not be the right age.”

She’s not British or American, and hence she’s not Helen Mirren. Another good guess!

Lighter: “I don't know! I don't know! Tell tell tell!”

Soon, soon, soon!

Hops: “Sophia Loren?”

Nope!

Bones: “Brigitte Bardot?”

Nope!

Mud: “Patty Duke. Get it?”

LOL, I got it, but nope!

sKePTiKal: “Goldie Hawn? (I have no idea why she just popped into my head...) or Sophia Loren?”

Nope and nope!

Oops, I have to make a correction to my first post. The man she first felt “visible” with was not someone to whom she was married. They lived together and had a child together.

Two more clues: She was twice nominated for an Academy Award, but never won, and her movies were rarely “crowd-pleasers.”

Keep trying!

Richard
Title: Re: Voicelessness pop quiz!
Post by: Izzy_*now* on December 15, 2013, 12:18:35 AM: Gloria Swanson (or should have been silent)
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Post by: Izzy_*now* on December 15, 2013, 12:20:01 AM: Ingrid Bergman (being ostrasized from USA-----?) who reminded me of ...next post--
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Post by: Izzy_*now* on December 15, 2013, 12:21:39 AM: Liv Ullmann, foreign and not all that heard of?
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Post by: Izzy_*now* on December 15, 2013, 12:23:08 AM: Charlie Chaplin?----the only (wo)man I know of, who could keep his mouth silent.
Title: Re: Voicelessness pop quiz!
Post by: BonesMS on December 15, 2013, 07:46:47 PM: Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.......

Still living....

Senior Citizen......

Known in European films.....

Older, ex-husband died within the last ten years......

Has one child......

Trying to remember all the clues........

Wild guesses..... Charo or Pia Zadora.
Title: Re: Voicelessness pop quiz!
Post by: Dr. Richard Grossman on December 16, 2013, 12:45:35 PM: Ding! Ding! Ding! We have a winner!

And the winner is-------------------------------------------------------------------Izzy *Now* for her correct answer, Liv Ullman. Congratulations, Izzy!

You can read the short piece entitled "Born Outsiders" by Judith Thurman in the December 9, 2013 issue of the New Yorker (unfortunately, not available online).

Richard
Title: Re: Voicelessness pop quiz!
Post by: Twoapenny on December 16, 2013, 01:21:29 PM: Quote from: Dr. Richard Grossman on December 16, 2013, 12:45:35 PM
Ding! Ding! Ding! We have a winner!

And the winner is-------------------------------------------------------------------Izzy *Now* for her correct answer, Liv Ullman. Congratulations, Izzy!

You can read the short piece entitled "Born Outsiders" by Judith Thurman in the December 9, 2013 issue of the New Yorker (unfortunately, not available online).

Richard

Well done, Izzy :)
Title: Re: Voicelessness pop quiz!
Post by: Izzy_*now* on December 16, 2013, 01:51:05 PM: Wow! What a surprise that my chain of thinking took me in a circle around Ingrid Bergman, plus age and Europe were good clues.

Thanks for the fun!

Izzy
Title: Re: Voicelessness pop quiz!
Post by: Hopalong on December 16, 2013, 04:28:47 PM: I'm jealous.
The cheerleaders ALWAYS win...
or the glamorous country singers...
or somebody.

Hmmmpfff.

But okay, congrats Izz...

:lol:

Hops
Title: Re: Voicelessness pop quiz!
Post by: Izzy_*now* on December 16, 2013, 11:32:05 PM: Thank you Hops,

...but I am no cheerleader, or glamourous singer.

I am just an elderly lady who saw so many movies from 17 onwards and even kept a scrapbook of all female movie actresses/stars from about the time I was 8. I also go online back to watch the old movies. I thought I would learn about "life". I was hornswoggled!

I am the same with music. I understand we stick to favourites, as those popular as we grew up in our teens.

I just finished an old Hedy Lamarr movie in which she was a loose woman, although there was nothing to see and only a guess from the viewers, who was out to change herself. Now I know why I learned so little when growing up, and the camera always "faded to black".

Have you ever heard one of my "old-fashioned songs?

Wonder if a link works!????

http://www.soundclick.com/player/single_player.cfm?songid=4061979&q=hi&newref=1 (http://www.soundclick.com/player/single_player.cfm?songid=4061979&q=hi&newref=1) Edie

And I will die an unknown-----

Two things I thought I needed when I was back in my 20s was to join Woman's Army, whatever, or go to jail, where I would be told what to do, instead of all the wrong choices I appeared to make. I'm debating about telling that to my brother.....just for the record.

Now the choices are to live out my life becoming weaker and weaker with nothing ahead for me, or to end it sooner.

Love
Izzy
Title: Re: Voicelessness pop quiz!
Post by: Hopalong on December 17, 2013, 12:02:16 PM: Aww, hon--I was joshing you.
I HAVE heard your singing and I do think you've got glamour in you!

I didn't meant to make you feel melancholy, I'm sorry my joking struck a bruise.

And, thank you for using the word "hornswoggled" -- made my morning.

You're a lot more than you see you are, Izz.

love and admiration,
Hops
Title: Re: Voicelessness pop quiz!
Post by: Meh on December 17, 2013, 10:49:12 PM: You old people :lol: was before my time
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Post by: sea storm on December 25, 2013, 04:09:36 AM: Hmmmm I am old and I don't know who Pia Zadora is. That was a tough quiz. I love old movies and kow most actresses. Hats of to you Izzy. Excellent sleuthing..

Was it Charo or Pia? Or is Charo the same person as Pia? Maybe I have Alzheimers. Probably.

Sea storm