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Voicelessness and Emotional Survival => Voicelessness and Emotional Survival Message Board => Topic started by: COSMIC SOUL on June 08, 2005, 04:50:10 PM

Title: WAYS NARCISSISTS SET UP OTHERS SO AS TO SHRED THEM IF NEEDED
Post by: COSMIC SOUL on June 08, 2005, 04:50:10 PM

THE CHIP AWAY METHOD...
testing the waters
with ways that might not be
or could be just a bit questionable
but the situation seems to allow it..

seems one of the ploys
and once kind of getting a feel
... often not done consciously perhaps..
upping the ante

or could be a kind of reverse thing
of extreme overdone righteousness
that is way over done
where one feels like one should comment
but if one doesnt
the narcissist tries to use that
energy to parley into... god knows what

Title: WAYS NARCISSISTS SET UP OTHERS SO AS TO SHRED THEM IF NEEDED
Post by: cosmic again on June 08, 2005, 04:52:57 PM

from all the borderline things
that could maybe be this if one doesnt watch out
but it seems everything one does is wrong.///...
ahh
the narcissist has u as if walking on eggshells

Title: Narcissistic tactics
Post by: jophil on June 08, 2005, 07:16:52 PM

Hi Cosmic one, It appears that you have some insights to share with us, but for my part at least, the impact of your ideas is getting  lost in your somewhat obscure and cryptic literary style .
 
John.

Title: WAYS NARCISSISTS SET UP OTHERS SO AS TO SHRED THEM IF NEEDED
Post by: Anonymous on June 08, 2005, 11:13:36 PM

I like it though, even if it takes more work to decipher.   It's the same information with a dose of poetry/beauty

Title: WAYS NARCISSISTS SET UP OTHERS SO AS TO SHRED THEM IF NEEDED
Post by: Portia on June 09, 2005, 09:49:32 AM

I like it Cosmic, and John I'll try my words overlayed/to compare. I think it’s like what Bunny mentioned about borderlines:  that they test and test us and keep ‘upping the ante’ because they’ll make sure we reject them at some point.

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And extreme overdone righteousness that is way over done
where one feels like one should comment

Yep I recognise this…(‘get down off your high horse’ comes to mind)

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but if one doesn’t,  the narcissist tries to use that energy to parley into... god knows what

So if we don’t comment when we see this overdone righteousness, it gets worse? It’s taken as a silent acceptance that they’re allowed to trample all over us? They use the silent energy to build up to something more?

Interesting to think of it as 'energy', as though a silence (when we want to complain or assert ourselves) contains that unspent energy that we try to keep inside us....so the narcissist uses that energy, the energy meant to defend ouselves - they use for themselves. Hmmm. Have I got that a bit skewed now? It's all vampirism again!

Title: WAYS NARCISSISTS SET UP OTHERS SO AS TO SHRED THEM IF NEEDED
Post by: cosmRESPONDS2portia on June 11, 2005, 12:47:37 PM

sounds like what u said in post to this topic
pretty much catches most of its essence..

one might add perhaps something
about the instinctual way narcissist might work...
they are very good at instinctually
..in many ways unconscious of much of the process..
so as they can feel innocent...
instinctually picking up aspects of what the other seeks
in flattery and what the other fears in ways
that are perhaps key what makes a narcissist
what they are...
now i think the psychopath is a bit more conscious
of the process than a narcissist
but in many ways essentially the same process...

more info if u beg and feed my narcissist sense
of the wonderful insights i have :)