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Voicelessness and Emotional Survival => Voicelessness and Emotional Survival Message Board => Topic started by: October on September 23, 2005, 05:46:37 AM
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This one is because of something Plucky said in a post to Bloopsy about magic, and I thought it was a good idea.
I thought we could all go looking for magic, and then come and tell one another what we found.
Off to look>>>>>>>>>>>>
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:D October - just look around! It's everywhere! The place I live is so beautiful, everyday is magic. Babies, puppies, kittens... magic! There was a bird singing... magic! Charlotte Church's voice... magic! There is art and beauty and magic all around, if you look. :)
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October,
I like your idea of going around to look for magic---- that is an inspiring way to live!!
I am going to tyr to find some today. Love Bloopsy
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Best thing I have found so far is the leaves on the bushes opposite my house. The are turning from green to the most glorious shade of red, and there are red berries as well, to feed the birds through the winter.
I was going to try to go outside, but so far haven't managed to do that :(. But I can see the leaves through the windows. I was also going to try to visit my friend B for a cup of tea, but that is also beyond me at present. Maybe next week. We all need something to aim for. :lol: :lol:
If I was well, I would go and walk through the wet grass in bare feet (it was raining earlier). But I can think about what it would be like. :)
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Magic...
Five years ago, I lost two beloved cats. To cancer. Yes, I know. I've had a lot of practice...
I was able to get one of them to purr into the phone and record her on my voicemail at work, a couple of times. Tried to get the other one's purr recorded too but his was too soft...
Now we are moving offices and of course changing voicemail systems, and although they spent $2000.00, yes, 2K apiece, for VOIP phones that we none of us need or wanted, they can't forward our stored messages and will just delete all of them.
I was frantically trying to record these voicemails, but wasn't having any luck. Out of nowhere an acquaintance emailed to ask how the move was going... I told him this was the only bad part, losing the recordings of her purr... he said he might be able to download them to his computer, and since we work at the same place I gave him my access code so he could try.
Tonight I logged in and found .wav files in my inbox....
magic. magic. miracle.
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I have been wanting my own dishes and today I found a whole set of plates with pretty autumny colored folowers on them in the street!!! That is magic 4 me. Also, I was feeling like I needed a hug and found a huge white teddy bear with the name of one of my inner children embroidered on it on the street!!!
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The only real magic I've ever found is what C.S. Lewis called "deep magic" in the Narnia series.
If you look for it, it will find you.
mudpup
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Tonight I logged in and found .wav files in my inbox....
magic. magic. miracle.
That is such a lovely story, Storm!! I'm so pleased for you. :)
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I have been wanting my own dishes and today I found a whole set of plates with pretty autumny colored folowers on them in the street!!! That is magic 4 me. Also, I was feeling like I needed a hug and found a huge white teddy bear with the name of one of my inner children embroidered on it on the street!!!
How did these things arrive on the street, Bloopsy? Has someone lost them or thrown them away??
Pleased you found them, though. Hoping you find more magic today. :)
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Not sure if this counts as magic, but I managed to get outside yesterday long enough to cut the back lawn, which was rather long. And then it rained overnight, which is good because the grass has gone lovely and green again.
So now the garden looks lovely and inviting, and the sun is almost shining between the clouds, so I will do more gardening and tidy the place up a bit for winter. And today is Sunday, which means ironing. If I can be bothered, with all that lovely outdoorsy stuff to do. :lol:
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Dear October-- I think it counts as magic to get outside after you haven't been able to for a while. I know it sure feels like it! I'm so glad you got to go out with the magic leaves.
People around where I live put things out on the street / garbadge, and when the stuff is still nice, sometimes they leave it visible so someone can find it!!! Last month I found a light green velvety chair!!!! I guess I think of it as magic-like because I was wishing for my own cooking supplies and things to put in my room to make it nice but not able to afford anything, and then there they were!!!! Also, a little spice rack!!!
Hoping for a magic day for all of us,
Love,
Bloopsy
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HI everyone,
As I read this post, I keep wondering how interesting it is that all of us here find magic (love) in nature and things around us. I, too, feel the magic and beauty in this. My bigger comment is this: Where (what, when, and how) do WE find magic in our human relations? Is this magic found in moments of a relationship? Is a close relationship created by these moments? With whom? What about family...can we find any piece of magic there... if we look hard enough? What about us, individually and together?
I often find great wonder and magic in a brief encounter with all kinds of strangers, too. I enjoy a special smile shared with a passer-by, or maybe, a brief comment to share a chuckle with a waitress. But I wonder, do these more simple examples of magic say anything about the magic of moments in a relationship, rather than, a relationship of the moment? Although not intended, (I'm sorry to admit this to myself) I think I hold stronger confidence in the magic of nature....
How about you? How does magic fit into the people you know...any of them? Is our relationship with the magic in nature, maybe before people, due to our voicelessness? I'm very interested to know your thoughts.
Thanks,
BJ
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Next month, I will be marrying the man I thought I had lost 25 years ago. That is magic.
Two years ago, I thought my ex husband and outside circumstances controlled my life. I know now, that I control my life.
That is magic.
I didn't know that friends could be found in cyberspace.....but they can! That is magic.
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How about you? How does magic fit into the people you know...any of them? Is our relationship with the magic in nature, maybe before people, due to our voicelessness? I'm very interested to know your thoughts.
Thanks,
BJ
Hiya BJ
I have had depression for many years now. But enough of that. :lol: :lol: :lol:
What I find is that when I spend time with friends it has to be a very bad day for us not to find something to laugh about (even if the whole world is falling to pieces, or perhaps especially if it is). So perhaps there is magic there. And I find that looking into someone's eyes is magical as well - especially if you are both laughing. It is at such moments that souls meet and embrace, imo. And what could be more magical than that?
:)
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Hoping for a magic day for all of us,
Love,
Bloopsy
That sounds so magical, as you say. Maybe the angels put those things there for you, in answer to your prayers for nice things. Why not?? :)
I find something similar when I go into the charity shops round here, looking for books, especially classics and historical biographies, which most people don't want. So many people buy books and never read them, and they end up in the charity shops, and you can buy them for next to nothing. The local Hospice shop is the best of all, because many people (myself included) prefer to support them. So they get my unwanted books and stuff, and I buy theirs. :D
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Marta,
What a beautiful story. It made me think of Kahilil Gabran's "The Prophet" as he speaks of marriage.
Then Almitra spoke again and said, "And what of Marriage, master?" And he answered saying:
You were born together, and together you shall be forevermore.
You shall be together when white wings of death scatter your days.
Aye, you shall be together even in the silent memory of God.
But let there be spaces in your togetherness,
And let the winds of the heavens dance between you.
Love one another but make not a bond of love:
Let it rather be a moving sea between the shores of your souls.
Fill each other's cup but drink not from one cup.
Give one another of your bread but eat not from the same loaf.
Sing and dance together and be joyous, but let each one of you be alone,
Even as the strings of a lute are alone though they quiver with the same music.
Give your hearts, but not into each other's keeping.
For only the hand of Life can contain your hearts.
And stand together, yet not too near together:
For the pillars of the temple stand apart,
And the oak tree and the cypress grow not in each other's shadow.
If you both find inspiration and love of life when you're together, would it be possible to follow your own dreams independently, yet, still be together? I'm not sure. As long as you and A are not in disagreement about a combined decision like--only one of you wanting a child(for instance), couldn't your love and respect and care for each other survive the more superficial stuff...or is this about total opposite lifestyles and dreams? I think if value sytems and morals with care and respect are in place, the rest will work on its own, if each person is willing to be open to the other. He sounds incredible and we should all have an "A" person in our lives.
I thought of one more thing. As a tree stands confident, firm, and tall, one might hold onto the roots firmly planted in the ground while another might find inspiration in the branches climbing up to the sky...either way, the nature of a tree forms an umbrella of protection from outside forces. "Weather or not" you are capable of being together, you found your magic in your love together. How lucky you both are!
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Hi all,
I know I've had magical moments, I just can't recall right now. Just wanted to say all these posts are brightening my day--so there's some magic right there. :D MP
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BJ:
He sounds incredible and we should all have an "A" person in our lives.
Oh no, I didn’t find a magician but magic, if you know what I mean. :wink: It was a process of alchemy, where two lost people came together and each of us became a better person by loving the other. I think there is something about passionate loving-- be it a person, tree, music -- which turns us into better human beings.
When someone who’s known nothing but abusive relationships for nearly four decades of her life finds a partner with genuine goodness, it is experienced as magic. Something akin to Plato’s example of people who’d spent a lifetime chained in caves took and took shadows for human beings must have felt when they left the cave for the first time and saw each other in daylight.
I am still struggling hard with a lot of issues from my N upbringing, but now I have something solid anchoring me to life. Just a few years ago, every morning I needed to convince myself with a new reason to carry on.
I also love the magic children open us up to! All the mothers out there, why art thou silent?
Marta
PS: One book I’d especially liked about magic of relationships was by Kokie (sp?) Roberts, the PBS anchor and her politician husband.
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Hi Marta,
that is a wonderful story. it needs to be made into a television movie.
there is indeed much magic with children. I'm trying to think of an incident that is not too identifiable. I guess the birth of my first child could be one. he heard my voice and turned his head to see me just as they were cutting the cord. he kept his tiny face turned in my direction until I was holding him. Then he relaxed and fell asleep.
Plucky
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I have been following this thread with delight. Marta, what a beautiful relationship...and yes, that is how relationships are if they are healthy...they change us. It's magic.
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Oh no, I didn’t find a magician but magic, if you know what I mean. It was a process of alchemy, where two lost people came together and each of us became a better person by loving the other.
Isn't that exactly what IT is all about--who needs a magician with a reality like you describe. Most people are never fortunate enough to find their personal best, because of, or shared equally with, another. There is also magic in holding it, together, forever. If you and "A" still experience this marvel when you connect, will you only remain connected in spirit or are you looking for more/different or choose to fly solo? Wouldn't two "lost souls" feel "found" when you're together as you describe? Are you still trying to heal youself first and this holds you apart?
The woman at the counter surveyed my purchase basket carefully and asked me to pay $283.45. Then one by one, she flicked each item through the checkout counter and there the number flashed on the screen, $283.45.
Wow! I would have been floored by this.
Sometimes we need to have faith...even if it seems too soon to know, or too difficult to imagine, or how could it be? Sometimes the answer is right in front of us and our timing might be off. Is this created by our need to be assured? When is what we find good enough, or right, or just right? Must we always go through the act of confirming our feelings...just in case?
May be you will find your fellow-traveler amidst on your nature walks.
I am married to my fellow-traverler who is a supportive, caring, gentle man. I often find inspiration in my life with my children. Their enthusiasm for adventure in new things, and life in general, is rewarding and envigorating because I am always excited to mutually engage in their interests. I love this opportunity that fills us with love. But...I must admit something. Currently, I find my therapist is the one who helps me find my personal best...qualities, traits, and talents...some hidden until now. I am both proud and humbled by this. I love finding my potential and the freedom to express it with him. Now, I need to take my own advice and hold it forever and share it and use it to help my children fly...forever with me, yet soaring above.
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It is very magical for me that there is Survivors of Incest Anonymous, where at some of the meetings they have a drawing time. It is very magical to walk into a room in a hospital in the sometimes lonely city, and sit down at a table with others who are trying to heal to draw a picture with the supplies they have there provided by some person who cared enough to be there with art supplies. At one meeting, a very beaten looking man used the crayons to create a beautiful Monet-like landscape type drawing. He said that he wanted to be an artist, but that he could hardly survive let alone follow his dream because of the effects of the abuse from his childhood, but he drew that picture and held it up for the group to see and for that moment he was recognized and honored for the artist that he is.
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Bj, good to know that you've found a good therapist, which is a rare commodity, and are finding new horizons.
Are you still trying to heal youself first and this holds you apart?
Nawwww. Too cumbersome to really layout on the board, but I've made decisions which may keep us geographically apart for quite some time. As they say, if you love someone, set him free.....