Voicelessness and Emotional Survival Message Board
Voicelessness and Emotional Survival => Voicelessness and Emotional Survival Message Board => Topic started by: MarisaML on May 02, 2006, 07:35:31 PM
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I thought it would be fun to think of what fictional characters we know of that are N-like. Let me start with one that popped into my mind right away.
Mrs. Olsen~ Little House on the Prairie.
Can anyone else think of any?
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Arrggghhh, I HATED the book Mme Bovary. I thought all of the characters were worthless excuses for humans :lol:
Hmmm... this iS a fun topic... Anyone ever read a story by Tolstoy called "Family Happiness?" That girl was DEFINITELY an N. In fact, and you named Anna K here... I think ALL of Tolstoy's women were Ns... he was too BTW.
How about the boss in The Devil Wears Prada? I've had bosses like that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hmmm... I'll have to think some more. I LOVE literature, so this is a fun topic for me!
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I have another one...
Queen of Hearts-- Alice in Wonderland
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Captain Hook?
Hops
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THE WICKED WITCH OF THE WEST IN THE WIZARD OF OZ :mrgreen: " ILL GET YOU AND YOUR LITTLE DOG TOO"
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Actually, anyone read the book Wicked? The Wicked Witch of the West is actually a good person in it and Glinda the Good Witch is a serious N! I am still reading it... about halfway through.
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DORIAN GRAY SERIOUS N WRITTEN BY OSCAR WILDE This is the secret of Dorian's soul . He never grows old because his self portrait grows old locked up in his attic for none to see his aging or his sins.
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This post made me smile…..
What about Jessica Rabbit? She was all about her looks, and her Roger…
And Donald Duck, he has to be a classic N.
Thanks again x
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[this isn't fiction, but a poem I just ran across--dedicated to women who survived N men!] Hops
The World According to Narcissus
Her. But not her. Her N's whole world
was broken down like this,
into the women he would or would not
have. With some, it was whether
they had the kind of beauty
that cauterized eyes, the one hundred fictions
of it, like chokeweed that could root
anywhere and begin to thrive.
With others, he measured potential,
their ability to slip from contemporary cotton
into cocktail shooters, a brown sugar backstory
that could start, say, in a cornfield,
aroused by a little subjugation, verbs
he'd take a shine to when he'd single her out:
lure, charm, exhaust, burn. Either way
it had to turn. In the beginning, peonies.
Eventually, gasoline. When it did turn,
he'd weigh the baroque/throat
rhyme of her beauty against everything legal,
find ways to unbecome it, an elegance
he'd chip away at and have, and not have, and have
until it was a broken thing, a bird unwinged.
Until she was a ghost.
He did not have an eye for ghosts.
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But was Dorian an N at the beginning of the book? I think Harry was the real N and ruined Dorian.
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You know gratitude I felt that way about Harry (Oscar Wilde) too , the author Oscar was a man of great wit and genius yet after Oscar's fall and his years in prison for being gay I guess in some cases life can change a man.Oscar lived too long in the garden on the side of light and then after his fall from grace he lived on in darkness . What he learned from both sides was great.But the Picture of Dorian Gray was written when Oscar was in love with Bosie (Lord Alfred Douglas) and all was well in the garden of light .Dorian was so vain so unapproachable without feeling .He sold his soul for his youth,to always look young.Dorian would do anything to hide his sin.Dorian was so shallow .Dorian was Bosie. Lord Alfred Douglas's nickname was Bosie .Just as Bosie was the youth that destroyed OSCAR WILDE in real life and the reason Oscar was sent to prison. The letter Oscar Wilde wrote to Bosie(Lord Alfred Douglas)from Reading Prison says it all . Dorian was a fictional character that is a N based on a real N LORD ALFRED DOUGLAS (BOSIE). It was so sad .Oscar was put in prision for being gay.Oscar Wilde was a genius and he also learned to become so very kind from his suffering after his fall from fame.
Oscar Wilde's life is lovely, sad and a very moving story.
Moonlight 8)
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gratitude: ah, yes, Wicked. What a wonderful story! All a misunderstanding....well crafted. Last year my husband and I took our daughters to see the musical on (or is it now off) Broadway. I have seen a lot of musicals....and this one was fantastic!
Did you ever read the kid's book (written by the same guy who wrote "stinky cheese man") about the real story of the three little pigs? (the wolf had a bad cold is all....just a misunderstanding, you see).
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DRACULA ...................... :shock: BRAM STOKER
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BLANCHE DUBOIS..............A STREETCAR NAMED DESIRE...........................
TENNESSEE WILLIAMS
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((((((memory and legacy of Oscar Wilde))))))
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"Ah have ahlways depayndayd on tha keyehndnays of strayngairs " chilling and sad, and that's just my bad Eengleesh translation :D
also Sunset Boulevard, Gloria Swanson
the mother in the film 'Brazil' anyone seen Brazil?
http://www.screenplay.com/resources/research/reel_people/index.html
(recognising personality disorders in films)
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Ah.
At last a question I cannot resist.
An N title with classic twists and turns: the Red and The Black.
Anna Karennina is a classic I have "not" read. As for Tolstoy....thank you for the closure.
When a relationship flows like a poem: All becoming has needed me. :D
from Book of Hours by Rilke
To answer your question, Teartracks:
I am not sure of the answer. Perhaps The Wasteland by TS Eliot.
"I will show you fear in a handful of dust."
When it could just as easily have been The Four Quartets by TS Eliot instead.
What a pity!
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Ginger Grant- Gilligan's Island, some of the people on the show DALLAS, Jasmine- Aladdin, Shirley Temple, some of the children in "The Little Princess," as well as the cook and the orphanage owner, The owner of the orphanage in ANNIE, maybe "Barnie"? "Teletubbies"
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the last guy I dated- he was definitely a fictional character who was N!
Who's that character on Alice in Wonderland ( Disney ) who keeps saying 'whoooo are you???'
He's a bit stoned on a mushroom ( guess they had fun with all that....)
My last boss in England was very much the Queen from Alice.
I have to say though my favourite N character is-
Ebeneezer Scrooge!
'cos he changes....
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I adore Tennessee William's plays. Blanche is a DEFINITE N. But I love her anyways. Poor thing. I actually just reread that play.
I haven't read the story of the Three Pigs, but I remember seeing something about it. Is it the same author as Wicked????
Ahhh, Oscar WIlde. His story breaks my heart. What an awesomely, amazingly, witty and sharp person. He was destroyed. It made me so sad to go over his story. I didn't know that Harry was modeled after his lover. I guess Dorian was vapid, even in the beginning of the story. What about Basil? Was that who Wilde saw himself as? Then he was killed by Dorian (via Harry)? What do you think the book is that he referred to which made him turn so careless and cruel? I wish I could meet Oscar Wilde and revel in his genius. Wouldn't it be fun to be a bohemian, sitting around in a pillow tossed room with Wilde and friends? Did you know he was engaged to the girl who ended up marrying Brahm Stoker?
I am so glad you all like literature! I was itching to find someone to discuss all this with!
Love, Beth
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URSULA .....................WOMEN IN LOVE.......................D.H.LAWRENCE
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Nellie Olsen, Lucy or Peppermint Patty, Angelica on the Rugrats, Nellie Olsen