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Title: Help Me Rhonda
Post by: Hopalong on June 20, 2006, 07:11:59 PM
I have an assignment due at 8 a.m. and I have diddled away the day, posting here and there, writing a letter to the editor of the Washington Post (they took it!)...BUT.

This is my same old phobic work-avoidance pattern that bites me in the butt. Now I have to spend the whole evening slamming away at the task, when I could easily have gotten it done in the daytime and relaxed all evening.

I know I'm anxious about job-hunting.

Oh AHAAAAAH! I just this very second typing realized what's going on!!!!!!!!! God. That's amazing.

My N-brother is coming to town July 6 for a week. I've been emailing (courteously, peacefully) with him to confirm plans/times, etc. But INSIDE, I'm starting to quake.

That's it!!! OMG. After 56 years, this man still scares me out of my socks. I was watching one of those courtroom dramas last night and freaked myself out comparing the murderer to my brother.

Good grief. Well, at least I know why I'm so tense today.

I am soooooooooo uncomfortable when he's here. He and NMom go into their little mutual massaging conversations and I just ripple with old fears (and new fears, of course, that he intends to manipulate her somehow into changing her will again). Good God.

I really have to let go and build up a big INTERNAL boundary. I have no fear that I'll get emotional or irrational around him/them, but I just want badly not to be sucked into my old childhood space.

So here I am acting like a child by not doing my work.

(Please, nobody tell me Get Back to Work!) I don't have to concentrate that hard and I know the evening will go better if I pop back here every now and then, even just to hear your voices.

Ai yi yi. I hate fear, I hate anxiety, and I'm trying not to hate myself.

Thanks for listening to such a vent,

Hops
Title: Re: Help Me Rhonda
Post by: Hopalong on June 20, 2006, 08:16:11 PM
I totally understand why you suggest that Jac.
It sounds like supreme mental health.

I just can't do it now. I can't do the confrontation.
It probably took years off my life to confront NMom with tht outpouring of rage and fear last time he was heading this way.

This time, it's all civilized and more peaceful.
I really don't want to rock the boat.

As long as I am calm and courteous around both of them, it'll be okay.
I don't want a psychodrama as long as NMom has the power to yank the rug out from under me and manipulate me further about the house. I know that's probably awfully chicken of me, but I've hung in this long, she's 95 now, she and I are getting along, and I just don't want to go there.

It's the Family Rule not to discuss things openly, and she at last did come around to seeing my point of view. She changed her will so I do keep the house.

But right now, with unemployment hovering...I can't stand more upheaval. All I can do to keep calm as it is.

I think if I maintain courtesy but a don't-mess-with-me vibe, they'll both behave. Getting emotional at all is an invitation for more manipulation. Instead, I think I'll stay very busy by going to visit a friend, working long hours, etc., until he goes. She'll get her fill of his attention, he'll get crashingly bored, and he'll leave.

The two primary Ns in my life at one time is more than I can take on. By herself, andnow that she's 95, I can handle Mom. But not the both of them. So a conscientious-caretaker but too-busy-for-drama mein is probably the only shield I can invoke.

thanks so much for caring and for writing Jac. It seems stupid but posting all day long here must've loosened the rusty gears I was afraid to move...I did at least figure out what the trouble was. So I have a week to ready myself psycholgically for his arrival, and that will help. I would like to get along with him peaceably, with careful boundaries, so I will try that. No point addressing the past with him because he would lie or twist it. And right now, he is not attacking. Don't want to invite it.

Hops
Title: Re: Help Me Rhonda
Post by: mountainspring on June 20, 2006, 08:43:56 PM
Hi Hops...  wondering if you could make plans for that week.  Make it a point to go somewhere with a friend.  I read in a book a while back that self talk helps too.  Oh... there they go... Mom's being mom, brothers being brother... sure am glad I understand what's happening etc etc.  Will he be there long?  Could you take a couple days and go somewhere... get away... take a break from mom.  If not, could you plan fun things for you... a favorite DVD, an evening at the movies...  dinner with a friend..
Title: Re: Help Me Rhonda
Post by: Hopalong on June 20, 2006, 08:50:44 PM
Thanks MS.
He's arriving Friday and leaving Tuesday morning, it won't be too bad.
I hope to go out of town for the day Saturday and will keep myself very busy with church Sunday, then work a long day Monday.

I'll survive. Just a shock to see how much the old ghost still entangles me.

A little discouraging. I feel as though I'm reacting like the frightened little girl I was once.

I feel a little shame about that.

Hops
Title: Re: Help Me Rhonda
Post by: pennyplant on June 20, 2006, 08:58:24 PM
Hi Hopsy,

Well, the little frightened girl is probably there somewhere inside you.  But there are other Hopsies in there too.  Strong ones.  Just some balance is what is needed.  Then little Hopsy can watch and learn and maybe heal a little.

Good plan to keep busy with things that may take your mind off the Ns.  Also good plan to keep peace long enough for the safety of Nmom's will and your legacy.

I'm glad you figured this out and told us.  Seems like that alone might make some kind of a difference in the situation.

Pennyplant
Title: Re: Help Me Rhonda
Post by: penelope on June 20, 2006, 08:58:32 PM
hi hops,

could you plan some little stuff in there during the day too - like your meals or whatever, ahead of time.  Just so you have those saving graces to look forward to?

hugs,
pen
Title: Re: Help Me Rhonda
Post by: mountainspring on June 20, 2006, 08:59:13 PM
No shame Hops... no shame...

(((((((((Hops)))))))))))
Title: Re: Help Me Rhonda
Post by: Hopalong on June 20, 2006, 09:05:10 PM
Penny, Pen, MountainSpring...

 :cry:

thank you so much.
Yes, the support here will make a tremendous difference.
And I will intentionally make time with people I feel good around!

(Hmmm. Just had a thought. My church's co-minister knows me well. I bet she would come by that Saturday or Sunday just to say hello. Even her brief presence would be a bolstering thing, and remind Nbro and NMom in a subtle way that other people are aware of their games. I might invite her to take a walk with me and then just come in for a big drink of water.)

thanks again, my friends.

Hops
Title: Re: Help Me Rhonda
Post by: pennyplant on June 20, 2006, 09:09:01 PM
You're gonna be okay, Hops  :) .

PP
Title: Re: Help Me Rhonda
Post by: Stormchild on June 20, 2006, 09:56:46 PM
Hang in there Hops... this too shall pass.

Does it help at all if you think ahead to when it will be over with and you'll be back here posting to us about how well you managed to avoid a lot of the things you were afraid would happen?

What do they call that? Visualization? Tell the universe how this turned out... before it does.

Music, if music works for you, can be a wonderful escape. Put on your favorite CDs in the car?

Good luck Hops. Good luck.
Title: Re: Help Me Rhonda
Post by: lightofheart on June 20, 2006, 10:19:40 PM
Hi Hops,

Please, please, give yourself a heaping dose of love, 'cause Love is the Answer, and I'm positive 'cause I painted it on a piece of barnboard, hung it high in my kitchen and no one can walk in my house without smiling at it. Plus, you're my goodhearted pal who I've just never had the pleasure to meet so I need to stick up for kind, dear, and very giving Hops, and remind you how cool she is.

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So here I am acting like a child by not doing my work.
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May I respectfully point out an alternate view? imho, one of the true pleasures of being an adult is doing just what I want, when I want, even if it's goofy--maybe especially if it's goofy--and accepting it's just what I seem to need at that second, and I don't need any better reason than that, whether it's cake for dinner or snoofing around this embracing website and reading/typing away.

I like all the good ideas you've gotten here about the impending visit, can I fifth or sixth them? When my MIL was here last week one thing that really helped was going to bed earlier than anyone else, especially since she was getting me up at 5 every morning.  My bedroom is a happy playpen: books, music, French doors to the deck, so I felt relaxed after even a half hour or so alone in there and it made for a very peaceful end to tiring days with MIL. On a related note, also did some A-team dawdling, another little route to peace. MIL wears mondo makeup and performs extensive hair rituals...neither of which, um, I can relate to, but it did give me another consistent time block to traipse around my room or feed the birds or come in here and surf around or write my little head off.

Hope you're not feeling too anxious? For what it's worth, I almost sh*& a kitten in the 48 hours before MIL came...and the actual visit was so much easier than the mental ramp up. A breeze by comparison. So, maybe you've already weathered the hardest part?

Sweet dreams to you,

((((Hops))))

LoH


Title: Re: Help Me Rhonda
Post by: moonlight52 on June 20, 2006, 10:35:55 PM
Hi Hops  ,   I like to remember what bean said about what is important "gentle strength".HOPS, you have cornered the market.  :D
Love,
Moon
Title: Re: Help Me Rhonda
Post by: Hops on June 21, 2006, 10:35:08 AM
PP, thank you, and I believe you!

Sugarre, this is wonderful advice:
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keep on with your own agenda while demonstrating the respect you would give to anyone you really didn't know
I can do that. I can be respectful and still sort of distant. Thanks a lot.

Storm, you're right, my disasterizing is usually the only true disaster that happens! Thanks, it is comforting to realize I'll be back here with the anticlimactic tale.

LoH, I have a playpen. I love my room, simple but cozy and colorful. Novels and TV and art that warms my heart. Your retreat sounds lovely too, and thanks for the reminder. (I was slothful most of the evening but got up at 5:00 and my boss was content with my work. Long lunch nap!)

Moon, thank you, hon. Good golly miss molly. You are so generous.

Jac, yowsa. You had one of those mega-confrontations too? Tell me about it sometime, it'll stiffen my spine. Thanks for understanding.

love to all,
Hops



Title: Re: Help Me Rhonda
Post by: lightofheart on June 21, 2006, 12:37:09 PM
Hi Hops,

You're very welcome. Glad to hear your boss appreciated your work...gotta' admit, the loyal pal in me read that and thought, Well, of course; it's Hops' work. Just can't imagine that you're not diligent and talented in a work setting. Well, probably 'cause, imho, it's so completely obvious that you would be, it's part of who you are. Hope that's not too effusive, just feels true to me.

Hi Jac,

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I totally, totally understand.  I call my confrontation with my Mom, The Final Battle, it was like Batman vs. The Ultimate Foe, my diabolical nemesis.  I was in an emotional upheaval for days afterwards!
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Read this and loved that you could write something so funny about something painful.  :lol: :lol: :lol:

Am just waiting for the opportunity to ask my boss if he is my diabolical nemesis with a straight face. Thank you, loads, for that!

Hope this isn't too off-thread? (sorry Hops, if so) but was/is humor a survival skill with your FOO? It was in mine. One day my F. came in the door yelling, we didn't even know what about...after he'd stormed out, my sibling grabbed a pen and paper, wrote 9.5 and held it up, like an Olympic judge. For years we didn't have words for stuff that went on at home, but the 3 of us would score F.'s wildman bouts whenever it felt safe. Also, Mom developed a private signal, an Okay sign with the other 3 three fingers fluttering, that she called the Flying A-hole (sorry to be crude) which we sometimes used discreetly in my F.'s company. Loved her for that.

Best to you both, and all you sweet folks here

 :D
LoH
Title: Re: Help Me Rhonda
Post by: mudpuppy on June 21, 2006, 01:46:37 PM
LOH,

 :lol: :lol: :lol:

I'm adding that finger flutter to my repetoire. Its not copyrighted is it?

mud
Title: Re: Help Me Rhonda
Post by: Hopalong on June 21, 2006, 02:23:23 PM
A flying fluttering finger-flapping ahole is excellent diversion
from my interminable tale of woe....and just as well!   :lol:

I've been practicing too, Mud.
We could offer it as a secret signal for the VES board...

so when we pass each other on sidewalks wearing fedoras in strange capitals,
getting ready to smuggle escapees-from-Ns across some border or other,
we can do the FA signal and keep the underground railroad going...

Hops
Title: Re: Help Me Rhonda
Post by: lightofheart on June 21, 2006, 02:59:00 PM
Afternoon, Mud and Hops,

Please, go right ahead and share the wealth. My Mom's generous with everything, including her crassness. I think she'd like the idea of folks keeping the ol' FA alive. Now that Kong's off the island, so to speak, we don't use it in the family anymore, though my H. and I dust it off occasionally in FA company. Mom's a hat person, too, so I think she'd really dig the Fedora picture. 'Tis a good one, Hops!

 :lol:

P.S. - Re. the visit, Hops, for what it's worth, my Mom would echo Sugarre's good advice, with the addendum, And if that's not good enough, he can pound sand. (Anyone pokes at Mom and she says, Go sh*& in your hat! ...though not the Fedoras, she'd like you two.)
Title: Re: Help Me Rhonda
Post by: Hopalong on June 21, 2006, 04:11:03 PM
LoH,
Maybe your Mom's crass but she's also sort of adorable.
I bet she's affectionate and laughs a lot?

Sounds wonderful.
NMom doesn't really interact, just prates...

Thanks for the colorful anecdotes about her, they're delightful.

Hops
Title: Re: Help Me Rhonda
Post by: Healing&Hopeful on June 21, 2006, 04:41:49 PM
(((((((((Hoppy))))))))))

Oh honey.... what a draining time you've got a head of you.  At least it is only Saturday to Tuesday, and to keep busy maybe by saying something like you'd like to give them space because they don't see each other very often?  Think they would want to make the most of their time together....

You can get through this, I know you can dear sweet hoppy hops.

I do that with work too.... and housework (think about me saying how much I had to do and I was posting on here)... but I think sometimes we just need our own time out.

I can relate to how it feels to be nice and kind and watch what you say so you don't rock the boat.... continously biting your tongue, but it will only be a few days.

Take care

Love H&H xx
Title: Re: Help Me Rhonda
Post by: Hopalong on June 21, 2006, 05:31:51 PM
Thanks, you kind H&H--I do feel MUCH better since I spewed anxiety all over the board all day yesterday!
I am pretty calm, got caught up on my work, and am looking forward to a nice snuggly evening with Me, Myself and I, and a DVD.

This pond can float somebody who's slipping even when there are rapids to contend with. I love it.

And I'm grateful, everybody!

((((H&H))))

Hops
Title: Re: Help Me Rhonda
Post by: lightofheart on June 24, 2006, 05:35:17 PM
Hi Hops,

I meant to reply to you here ages ago, but lost the thread. Might even say unraveled.

Just wanted to tell you how very much I appreciate your sense of humor. imho, if that wasn't nurtured in your family, a planted crop, it's even more remarkable that you chose to grow it in yourself, with such warm and goofy results. 8)

We wouldn't  :lol: half as much here without your fine sense of the ridiculous and storytelling. Thanks for bein' Hoppy, in every sense.

 :D
LoH



Title: Re: Help Me Rhonda
Post by: Hopalong on June 24, 2006, 10:59:27 PM
((((((((((((((((((((LoH))))))))))))))))))))))))))

Beyond kind.

I feel loved and appreciated.
Thank you!

love,
Hops