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Title: Healing Yourself
Post by: moonlight52 on August 13, 2006, 02:26:50 AM
Simple answer is learn to love who you are without judgment and without judging others ,this is not easy to do.
(this I need posted on forehead )

Why do I judged myself as unlovable ? Why am I  so afraid of being in lack?

Soon after we are born this fear of not being enough is learned.

And all the while we yearn to be whole.And to truly know LOVE.And yearning to connect with something eternal.

So how to change it?It means being aware of your thoughts and learn to love yourself.And paying attention to others feelings.

Maybe these can heal one's heart .On reflection what idea's do you have to help get one's heart unstuck ?

Words like peace,tranquility,playfulness,joy or wonderment.These are these emotions I want to embrace!!!!!!!!!!

To say thank you for the opportunity to stop to say yes to LOVE......AND THEN MAYBE IT UNFOLDS....................

We do choose our view on the world ? This is the most difficult when one has lived a life full of obstacles

STEPPING FORTH IN LOVE AND COMPASSION It is just how to keep this connection from going on and off...................................

Being a human is emotionally intense......................... first help self then you can assist others  only if asked

These are some of the things I hope to be as I try to heal my heart..........................................................


MoonLight

I wish I could take a healing hot bubble bath but the doc said not yet so soon after operation so I guess it's bubble baths only in my dreams
Title: Re: Healing Yourself
Post by: moonlight52 on August 13, 2006, 08:23:09 AM
HI GUYS     I took a bubble bath anyway and it was great.What do doc's know there not alway's right.  8)

MoonLight
Title: Re: Healing Yourself
Post by: pennyplant on August 13, 2006, 08:27:50 AM
Moon, Bubble baths are the best!  I take them all the time.  They always work their magic.  I have to go to work pretty soon, but will be back.  I love this thread and will want to participate later on today.

PP
Title: Re: Healing Yourself
Post by: Brigid on August 13, 2006, 09:47:53 AM
Moon,
One important lesson I have learned and hopefully embraced by all that I have experienced, especially in the last 3 years--when I see someone who is hurting, or has suffered a major blow to their lives, I no longer wonder if I should say something, and if I did, what would I say that would be the right thing, or should I drop a note or call a friend who is far away and having a hard time, and what would I say that would matter--all that rhetoric we go through.  Partially I didn't want to acknowledge their pain, because some day it could have be my own.  Some day I could (God forbid) lose a child, lose a parent (inevitable), get divorced, lose my job, have a loved one contract a potentially fatal disease--whatever myriad of possible tragedies could befall me, and if it happened to someone I know and maybe even is close to me, it could certainly happen to me.  But also it was thinking (stupidly) that I didn't want to look clumsy and awkward and potentially say something to make things worse.  All selfish reasons to not be a good friend in a time of need.  But I learned that what I say, the format, the words are not what matters.  It matters that I show I care and I am willing to drop whatever menial things (by comparison) are going on in my life at the time, to show and tell that person in pain that they matter more. 

Every time someone reached out and gave me a hug and just said, "I'm sorry for what you're going through," or called and asked if I needed to talk, or could we go have coffee, it meant so much to me.  When I was feeling so unloved by my exh and his immediate family, my family of friends stepped in to show that I was still loved and my pain was difficult for them to bare too.  On the flip side, they are so thrilled for my happiness now and I have become a poster child to many for divorce recovery.

Moon, I'm glad you treated yourself to the bubble bath.  Yes, sometimes doctors make silly rules.

Brigid
Title: Re: Healing Yourself
Post by: Stormchild on August 13, 2006, 09:56:34 AM
Moon, keep an eye on your incision. The reason docs don't want you immersing yourself after surgery is that soaking the skin softens it, causes it to swell, and can allow water to get into the tissues around the cut, and then sometimes you can get infected. That isn't good.

Easy thing to do after a bath, is to wipe the area with 91% alcohol [diabetics use this to swab their skin before injecting, you can get it as premoistened swabs or in bulk in a bottle at any good drugstore] - make sure it's wetted by the alcohol completely - then blot dry. Follow with a thin coat of triple antibiotic ointment.

Putting Vaseline over the incision before you get into the tub may help too, since it's waterproof ;-) and it doesn't support microbial growth. But you want to do the alcohol thing afterwards, then, still, to get the vaseline off.
Title: Re: Healing Yourself
Post by: moonlight52 on August 13, 2006, 10:37:22 AM
Hi Stormy ,
Mr moon did get kinda miffed with me for the bubble bath and is a scientist that loves medicine .

And did put the antibiotic cream on the incision and told me to take showers until Doctor said I could take a bath.

I am on antibiotics but infection is gone.And incision is looking much better.

I am a rebel I just knew I should not have taken bubble bath but I can resist anything but temptation.  8)

Love,
Moon
Title: Re: Healing Yourself
Post by: Stormchild on August 13, 2006, 10:47:46 AM
Sounds like you did all the right things. Both the bath and the aftercare. Love is a healing thing in many many ways! :-)
Title: Re: Healing Yourself
Post by: moonlight52 on August 13, 2006, 11:03:21 AM
THANKS Stormy
The only thing left is I have all these adhesive markings left by the tape from the gauze.

So I guess the alcohol will take that right off.And I am off those strong pain medicine so I GUESS I won't be freaking out on the board.

THANK STORM    I hope your tummy is feeling good today

Love to you
m
Title: Re: Healing Yourself
Post by: Stormchild on August 13, 2006, 11:06:51 AM
If alcohol doesn't remove the adhesive, Moon, fingernail polish remover ought to. But don't put on a lot of it, and don't use a cotton ball - use a paper towel. Unlike alcohol, fingernail polish remover goes into the skin more, so you don't want to use more than you need. Threads from a cotton ball will stick to the adhesive and your skin, and you'll need more solvent to clean up. So a paper towel and gentle rubbing is best. You should wait until the incision is a scar, though, before using fingernail polish remover, just to be safe.

By the way, this is what emergency rooms use to unstick some kinds of Crazy Glue, too.
Title: Re: Healing Yourself
Post by: moonlight52 on August 13, 2006, 11:23:30 AM
thanks Stormy

MR.Moon is on the other computer and says hello and thanks and to tell you I have been a bad patient
but I am behaving now.
He wants to know what your degree is in?
m
Title: Re: Healing Yourself
Post by: Stormchild on August 13, 2006, 11:29:22 AM
Hi Moon & Mr Moon

PhD in organometallic chemistry. With a BS in Biochem and an MA in organic. But I intended to become a medicinal chemist. I have physicians in the immediate family, nearly married a couple of physicians too, [at different times!] and have worked in healthcare related areas all my postgraduate life. In some workplaces I've been the only non MD in the group, like a friend of mine who ran the radiotherapy lab at a hospital for awhile - he was a radiochemist, the only nonMD in the place.

About freaking out on the board, hey, that is part of what it's for, sometimes you have to.
Title: Re: Healing Yourself
Post by: moonlight52 on August 13, 2006, 11:43:55 AM
STORMY              My hubby is interested in antioxidant chemistry and was optics engineer that helped invent night vision goggles
                    also ION EXCHANGE CHEMISTRY AND ALOT OF OTHER CHEMISTRY STUFF did work for Abbott Labs
                            LOVES THE STUDY AND MEASUREMENT OF LIGHT
                                I HOPE YOU KNOW WHAT THIS STUFF IS  it would be like me discussing James Joyce to Mr moon




                LOVE  MR & MRS MOON

                           
Title: Re: Healing Yourself
Post by: pennyplant on August 13, 2006, 04:52:22 PM
Hi Moon,

Finally done with my long, heavy day at work.  This thread was so nice to wake up to this morning before I went in to work.  And I have been thinking about what is healing for me the past couple days.

It seems that the arts and my garden work well for me and if I can start looking past all my obstacles, maybe learn how to ignore them in favor of the reading and music and films that make me happy, almost no matter what, then I'd be on my way.

Last night my husband and I saw Little Miss Sunshine.  This movie is a beautiful example of how one family makes sure their little girl gets to keep her voice.  In fact, everyone in the family has their voice, even the son who hadn't spoken in nine months.  But it was the little girl who moved me so much.  She truly shone like the sun.  And the lengths her family is willing to go to in order to ensure that she keeps shining really showed how much they loved her and each other.

The music in the film was very good, too.  We stayed and read the credits, as usual, and discovered a new band--DeVotchKa.  They made some music for Little Miss Sunshine and also for Everything is Illuminated.  A surprise there, as that is the movie that gave me Gogol Bordello!  So, went to the website for DeVotchKa last night and listened to a couple songs and the music got into me.  I just knew I needed to own a CD of theirs.  It will help with my healing.  Maybe some of you out west have heard of DeVotchKa--they are from Boulder, CO.  So, now I have some shopping to do.

Brigid--One thing that gives me trouble sometimes with reaching out to others when they are hurting is that I start to think, why would anybody want comfort from ME?  It's that automatic thinking that I just have to get past.  If only I could get that tape right out of my head once and for all!  What a difference it would make.

Pennyplant
Title: Re: Healing Yourself
Post by: moonlight52 on August 13, 2006, 07:40:31 PM
tt   I hope I am nice                   BUT ALSO SOMETIMES WHEN THE MOON WAXES AND WANES I GO COO COO

NICE YOU THINK I am nice 

I think you are sweetie and nice too
((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((tt))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

(((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((BRIGID))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
Just a note a letter a phone call to a friend in need I have two letters to write THANK YOU FOR REMINDING ME.
LOVE TO YOU BRIGID

MoonLight
Title: Re: Healing Yourself
Post by: Hopalong on August 13, 2006, 11:52:44 PM
PP:
Quote
why would anybody want comfort from ME?

I would. I have. And you did.
You have made a difference to me.

((((((PP)))))

Hops
Title: Re: Healing Yourself
Post by: moonlight52 on August 14, 2006, 04:22:02 AM
Love has no opposite.

Love is the single most powerful word in any language.

Each time one enters into healing ,whether it be physical or emotional or mental healing a purity begins to emanate more energy.

This is LOVE.When YOU HAVE AN EMOTIONAL HEALING that healing will touch everyone around you.

While you experience this emotional healing or feeling everyone around you is feeling it with you because of the energy you emit.

By example you show the core balance of your being.

LOVE,

MoonLight

E-motion or energy in motion is what we are.
Title: Re: Healing Yourself
Post by: pennyplant on August 14, 2006, 07:50:44 AM
Thank you (((((((Hopsy))))))))

PP
Title: Re: Healing Yourself
Post by: moonlight52 on August 14, 2006, 03:15:31 PM
Hi ALL , 
You will not believe what happened to me last night.

I slept on the couch because it makes my incision feel better with my head up a little and I was reading and fell asleep.

Around 4 O'clock I wake up and want to go to bed so I turn out the lights and I slipped on the rug and down I went onto the tiles on the floor.

Well I could not get up and Mr moon got me up the pain in my arm was bad and he took me to th emergency Hospital.

This  is so funny we told the Doctor's I just had surgery well they think I tore  my rotor chuff muscle in shoulder.

So we will not know until results of MRI if I need surgery or just rehab.

Oh well nothing boring around here I have one good hand to pick at the key board.

I am OK just have to figure out what the rugs telling me ? OH I KNOW LET SOMEONE ELSE DO THE DISHES.

OH MY I NEVER SHOULD HAVE STARTED THIS HEALING YOURSELF THREAD  :lol:

Really it looks like I only need rehab and exercises darn but this is the funniest thing

MoonLight
Title: Re: Healing Yourself
Post by: Hops on August 14, 2006, 03:25:17 PM
Moon!  :lol: :( :(

I'm so sorry!  :(
But what a great attitude you have, Ms. Moonlight... ((((Moonicon))))

Do you think you need a sofabelt? You know, like for cars, but in your case.... :?

Hope it heals quickly...

You are such a funny and amazing moon.

((((Moon and her parts))))

Hops
Title: Re: Healing Yourself
Post by: moonlight52 on August 14, 2006, 03:39:00 PM
Hops    Its soooooooooooooooo funny I AM ON THE FLOOR LIKE THE LADY IN THE COMMERCIAL HELP I CAN'T GET UP.

 ARM IN A SLING NOW THE UNIVERSE HAS GOT ME IN A PLACE WHERE I HAVE TO MEDITATE OR PRAY I AM USELESS FOR ANYTHING ELSE

Wonder If I really look inward IF I will learn anything or just be bored to tears.....................
THANKS HOPS...YOU ARE SO FUNNY I AM GOING TO BED OR BETTER YET MAYBE IT IS SAFER TO SLEEP ON FLOOR
and its not really serious  :lol:
bye

m
Title: Re: Healing Yourself
Post by: Hopalong on August 14, 2006, 04:01:35 PM
Here's something for ya, brave Moon!

 :lol:
Hops
Title: Re: Healing Yourself
Post by: moonlight52 on August 14, 2006, 07:55:52 PM
I AM GOING TO HAVE THE MRI SOON I FEEL LIKE I AM LESS THAN USELESS.  :(

CAN NOT DO MUCH   TRYING NOT TO FEEL SORRY FOR SELF

AND GO WITH THE FLOW

MOON
Title: Re: Healing Yourself
Post by: Stormchild on August 14, 2006, 08:45:12 PM
Moon, do you enjoy history? One of the best books for being 'laid up' with something is a historical mystery called "The Daughter of Time" by Josephine Tey...

it's about a detective, laid up in traction in the hospital after a nasty fall, who solves a historical mystery while flat on his back in the hospital bed. It's a wonderful read, if you can get your hands on a copy, and very comforting when you're incapacitated!

Title: Re: Healing Yourself
Post by: pennyplant on August 14, 2006, 09:02:43 PM
Moon, maybe you could indulge in a couple of POOR YOUs.  Just a couple wouldn't be so bad......

Frida Kahlo painted from her bed--maybe Mr. Moon could rig up something for you to be able to do a little painting with your one good arm???

Oh, poor (((((Moon)))))), I sure hope things start getting better real soon.

Love, PP
Title: Re: Healing Yourself
Post by: moonlight52 on August 14, 2006, 09:28:17 PM
HOPS THANKS FOR THE HALF MOON

STORMY I LOVE HISTORY I GUESS I WILL LOOK FOR THAT BOOK

PP I HAVE MANY BOOKS ON FRIDA I LOVE HER WORK WHAT A LIFE SHE AND DIEGO RIVERA HAD TOGETHER.

LOVE TO ALL

back to bed and to my thread healing yourself   

moon :D
Title: Re: Healing Yourself
Post by: Certain Hope on August 14, 2006, 09:42:38 PM
(((((((Moon))))))) feel better
and
now might be a good time to learn to type with your toes  :D :shock:

Love,
Hope
Title: Re: Healing Yourself
Post by: gratitude28 on August 14, 2006, 09:46:06 PM
Moon!!!!!!
Stop breaking yourself!!! And no baths until the doc says!!! ANd listen to stormy and mr. moon. Or else!!!!! Kisses. I hope you get all better soon.

Brigid,
I did the same thing. I decided it is better to deal with a situation than hide from it. When I know someone has cancer or a serious illness, I write a positive note to them and point out their strengths and wish them well with treatment. So many of the people I have known to get sick are still going strong!!!! And, when people are grieving, it helps to talk about the person I think. Wouldn't you want to talk about them? And if sick, wouldn't you want to share that information with someone?
So that's how I look at it.

Ooooh I love Freida Kahlo too. And I studied Russian. She and Diego were friends with Trotsky when he was exiled and lived in Mexico City. all so interesting...

Moon... I have a little painting show... I am tickled to get to show off a bit.

Love to all,
Beth
Title: Re: Healing Yourself
Post by: moonlight52 on August 14, 2006, 10:59:05 PM
BETH ,I do believe I will stop breaking stuff the experiment is on the mend.

Tell me about your paintings?

Hope, I just might surprise myself with my cute little toes :lol:

You guys crack me up  :D :D :D

LOVE

MoonLight