Voicelessness and Emotional Survival Message Board
Voicelessness and Emotional Survival => Voicelessness and Emotional Survival Message Board => Topic started by: SilverLining on January 28, 2007, 06:17:52 PM
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This is a question I have been wondering about this weekend. Since N's are the center of the universe do they practice or claim any form of religion? My N-ish father claims to be an atheist. According to his view, religion is something unintelligent lesser humans, who do not understand science, practice to console themselves.
In my younger years I thought maybe this was a reasoned opinion, if narrow minded. I now tend to think it's a symptom of self absorption. He just doesn't want to admit there is any greater intelligence in the universe than himself. Science and his own mind become his religion.
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strong atheism- to the point of hatred! and moving from one church ( now religion ) to another the 2 I have known well.
G_d's not good enough apparently....no surprise there!
Take care everyone, better go.
Love
Write
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My nmom had made a mess with her life when she was young. She became a Christian and turned her life and then imposed all the legalism of Christianity upon our family. As she became more and more successful her tithe made her "somebody" at the church. Her money made her a magnet for all sorts of people looking for donations. She mostly chose religious affiliations to give to. She volunteered for every ministry board. Her self adoration was fed by being known as the loaded woman who gives a lot of money. My ex told me once and I agree, that she has no real friends. She only has mooches.
So the question. Can Ns be religious? Yes. But if you point out a sin in my mom's life, she will not accept it. How dare you accuse me of sin? I don't sin!! Oh yeah, but she told everyone she was on vacation and long about Missouri way.....................when in fact, she was right in town recovering from a facelift. When I confronted her later and told her that our employees were shocked that she lied to them..........................she said, "I didn't lie.......and what business is it of theirs anyway?"
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But the bad news is our business is a Christian based business - we pray every day before we open up.........they expect more!!! A lie is a lie! And she could have said. I am taking a couple weeks off and left it at that. She didn't have to concoct a story about vacationing in Missouri!
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Leah: Have you read the book The Subtle Power of Spiritual Abuse? We had an employee that was wrapped up in an extremely controlling (guess what? Narcissistic ) church. This church actually has people give up everything and move into somewhat of a commune......a nice one...............but still............the ladies don't cut their hair. They are pentecostal, judgmental, etc. I, too, felt like I was abused by legalism. There was no grace growing up. Just a list of do's and don'ts..........But somehow I landed with a faith in God. My brother, on the other hand, doesn't have much time for any religion. He even cannot distinquish between religion and Christianity. Well, he was burned by my nmom and a couple of judgmental evangelists.........."God will wipe that smirk off your face, boy!!"
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My ex-N was a aethiest that thought he would live forever. YIKES.
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My very-Nish mom is a devout and obedient mainstream-denomination Christian. She joined my Dad's denomination after they married.
Her father, a poor evangelical preacher, may have been an N. He abused his daughters. Her brother became a pastor of the same strict sect that her father later left (he switched churches several times, I don't kow why). My uncle was a very good man and I loved him dearly (though not his theology).
I think some Ns are religious and some aren't, too big a generalization...
Hops
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And then there are N's who believe that they have an EXCLUSIVE pipeline to God and attempt to use that as an excuse to RAM their orders down your throat (i.e. God told me to order you to convert to Catholicism)! I DON'T THINK SO! THAT's BETWEEN ME AND MY GOD OF MY UNDERSTANDING, NOT YOU, YOU DUMB N!
Bones
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Leah: Have you read the book The Subtle Power of Spiritual Abuse?
Kell,
No I have not read that book, however, I have just purchased a copy on amazon, and after reading the reviews can't wait for it to arrive! Have looked, but never come across any books on the subject at my Christian bookstore, and they looked at be blank when I asked.
Many thanks and blessings,
Leah
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It's a good book. I have read a lot of books. Another one is something like "Breaking free from Legalism and Bondage...." I can't remember the author - maybe Neil Anderson. But it was really more like I was raised.......less spiritual abuse per se but more making you feel guilty all the time. A lot of hell fire and brimstone. Never once heard about the grace and peace and mercy and love of Christ........there are so many books out now that talk about a new attitude in the Christian church.....more like the 20 and 30 something crowd think.....I am 47 but I have to admit I think like they do..........................less churchy and more faith and love and forgiveness....