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Title: A 'rip' in MY universe---lack of emotions
Post by: isittoolate on February 09, 2007, 05:12:27 PM: Hello everyone

Did anyone here see a movie about an airplane that flew through a “rip in the universe” and ended up in another world? They had to find that “rip” again, fly through it to get back to their real world.

I had a very strange experience when my daughter was a baby. Joe and I were standing at her bassinet, arms around each other’s waist and watching her sleep. To my left I saw a “rip”, a “tear” into another ‘place’ and I was so filled with love for my baby and so overwhelmed by this deep feeling that I had never had before. (or again)

Then the “rip” closed and the feeling was gone, but I never doubted that I loved my baby, yet now it was back to without that deep feeling. I loved Joe, but it was without that deep feeling.

I know I still love her but I also know that I will not be devastated about our relationship if it ends, or any other relationship. I expect I love in my own way.

I am sure now that to some people, from my past, I might have appeared distant, maybe unfeeling, maybe disinterested.

My childhood was so filled with dysfunction, rage, anger, beating, rejection, absenteeism of parental love, concern, support that I just might have “shut down” and entered my own world within the real world.

When I read that Shame is the master emotion, controlling all others, except anger, I somehow felt that all my other emotions were tucked away in a locked box somewhere within me, and I cannot access them, to understand them

I cannot write about my emotions as you others do! I don’t know what they are.

Does anyone think I am crazy?

Love
Izzy
Title: Re: A 'rip' in MY universe---lack of emotions
Post by: Leah on February 09, 2007, 05:29:51 PM: Hello Izzy,

Not at all. I did not know the words for my emotions either and have spent four years searching and reading for the labels
and meanings, so that I could express my experiences and feelings.

As we were brought up in dysfunctional families, expressing our feelings in words was unheard of - literally.

Sometimes I have felt like a little child learning to talk for the first time, and then remember my age as a woman, and feel sad,
that I lost out so much in my life.

I wonder whether your 'rip' experience was fear of that all consuming love you felt, fear that it would be taken away from you,
just as a toy was taken away from you as a child or some other love you felt.

Take care ((( Izzy ))) you are doing so well.

Love Leah xx
Title: Re: A 'rip' in MY universe---lack of emotions
Post by: Dazed1 on February 09, 2007, 06:54:09 PM: Hey Izzy,

I agree with Leah.

You ain't crazy, my friend. You are very sane, smart and funny.

"My childhood was so filled with dysfunction, rage, anger, beating, rejection, absenteeism of parental love, concern, support that I just might have “shut down” and entered my own world within the real world.

When I read that Shame is the master emotion, controlling all others, except anger, I somehow felt that all my other emotions were tucked away in a locked box somewhere within me, and I cannot access them, to understand them

I cannot write about my emotions as you others do! I don’t know what they are."

It's totally understandable that you locked your emotions in a box. I think that this "rip" is you opening up to your emotions: you're looking for the key to the box in which you locked away your emotions. THAT'S SO GREAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I disagree that you can't write about your emtions. You have done so, maybe in a different way than others, but hey, Izzy has her OWN style!!

I think your discussion of the "rip" shows that you are venturing into a new and deeper connection with your emotions. I think that your post shows that you are already making a deeper connection to your deep emotions.

So happy for you.

love,
dazed
Title: Re: A 'rip' in MY universe---lack of emotions
Post by: Gaining Strength on February 09, 2007, 07:17:27 PM: Does anyone think I am crazy?

Not at all. Deeply, terribly wounded but not beyond healing. it is not too late.

You do have emotions they are just hibernating. - GS
Title: Re: A 'rip' in MY universe---lack of emotions
Post by: pennyplant on February 09, 2007, 07:20:44 PM: Izzy, I think this recognition you have of what has led to your burying your emotions is a good start. The fact that you recognize what was really happening when there was that rip of emotion as you gazed on your daughter and then it closed up again shows that the emotions were still in there after all that time and all that pain. I would bet my last dollar that they are still in there now!!! I don't think love dies. Not real love like you feel for your daughter. It is still in there. What is unknown is what it will take to coax it out again to stay. That is the variable in this whole thing. Perhaps it will always lay still and quiet. Perhaps not. I would say to keep coming back to it every so often. Check in with it. Remember things from the past the caused your emotions to hide themselves. Examine those memories from every angle. You might start to feel something. It might be painful. That pain you can bring here. You won't be alone with it. All of the emotions have to come out and be felt. Old ones, bad ones, all of them. The love and happiness and contentedness will come out too, though. It's all part of the same thing.

Pennyplant
Title: Re: A 'rip' in MY universe---lack of emotions
Post by: isittoolate on February 09, 2007, 08:15:41 PM: leah(http://Http://www.slrkelowna.ca/rose.gif)
Dazed(http://Http://www.slrkelowna.ca/rose.gif)
GS(http://Http://www.slrkelowna.ca/rose.gif)
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Thank you all. If I were normal, I might become all weepy because of your posts and support. So, to be honest, I read them and say to myself, "How nice!" I wonder if I am constantly in a survival mode?

A 'take' I have on that 'rip' when my baby was so little & dependant is that it was a 'sign' to me of some kind that let me know my feelings, but put me back in survival mode, as I would need it for the future, as when Joe became abusive, I left with her and raised her on my own, and had to deal with such a dysfuntional, critical family. (is that a run-on sentence? :D)--I paved the way for illegitimate children in the family. All the criticism that came from siblings (not my brother) was paid back in spades when their grandchildren were born on the wrong side of the blanket. (I just thought of that now, after all these years, and how I just 'froze' at the news and wondered if I was due an apology, each time it happened. :shock:)

Thank you Dazed".......your emtions. You have done so, maybe in a different way than others, but hey, Izzy has her OWN style!!"

Thank you GS.."You do have emotions they are just hibernating" I expect so, that all of them have distant cousins that I can use when needed.

Thank you Leah.." for admitting you, too, have a problem in identifying your emotions and your take on my 'rip'.... fear that it would be taken away from you, The latter is definitely food for thought!!!

Thank you PP..."What is unknown is what it will take to coax it out again to stay." My mind wanders to that outcome more times than I can count.

It seems likely that all my life I denied emotions and got down to the matter of survival. THERE came that word, Denial.

xx
Izzy
Title: Re: A 'rip' in MY universe---lack of emotions
Post by: Hopalong on February 09, 2007, 11:11:31 PM: I think maybe you disassociated, Izzy.
Strong feeling, even that you felt so powerfully for your infant daughter, may have been so threatening in your early life that you learned to amputate it before it even got to the surface of your awareness. Your little one just called to something stronger than your fear.

But people who have been badly abused DO that. And many many many of them get curious later in life about what they may have missed. As you are. And with caring therapy and searching, they can re-integrate, find themselves emotionally healing and risking expressing more--without danger.

With some pain, at times, but you're no stranger to that. With only the kind of pain that accompanies healing.

I really admire you for asking yourself the question, where did my feelings go?

Hops
Title: Re: A 'rip' in MY universe---lack of emotions
Post by: Leah on February 10, 2007, 08:55:31 AM: (((( Izzy ))))

Thank you for my beautiful red rose - what a lovely surprise.

Has made my day.

Bless you.

Leah xx

ps. would love to be able to include flowers and pretties like you - have tried, but can't seem to work out how to do it. Clever girl you.
Title: Re: A 'rip' in MY universe---lack of emotions
Post by: Gaining Strength on February 10, 2007, 09:40:59 AM: Izzy - Hops makes so much sense here. I ask the following question not for you to answer me but for you to think about for yourself - what happened in your FOO when you expressed emotion? What happened with Joe when you expressed emotion?

I went through a few years when I felt that I had lost my emotions and then i began to fear that they were to painful to be able to bear when they came out. But somehow, overtime they did and they were not too much. And now I have forgotten that they were once too much. I hope for you that you will slowly regain that sense and that it will begin with good, soft emotions. That is my hope for you. - your friend - Gaining Strength
Title: Re: A 'rip' in MY universe---lack of emotions
Post by: isittoolate on February 10, 2007, 03:21:51 PM: hi Hopalong (http://www.slrkelowna.ca/rose.gif)
Leah again(http://www.slrkelowna.ca/rose.gif)
& GS again(http://www.slrkelowna.ca/rose.gif)

Dissociation is a psychological state or condition in which certain thoughts, emotions, sensations, or memories are separated from the rest of the psyche. For this reason, it is sometimes referred to as "splitting." (That in itself can make a degree of sense, Izzy)

However, when taken further, it leads to DID (formerly MPD) and fugue states, and amnesia---not that I wouldn't mind some anmesia! I have never been that far gone, but I've found nothing that suggests a ½ way stopping off point.

In Three Faces of Eve, her trauma was a forgotten episode about her dead grandmother--having been forced to kiss the dead body? I remember my grandparents dying---- although with no emotion.

In Sybil, I forget the trauma that made her split, I forget, as well, if these were based in true fact.

Another trauma is sexual abuse, and I have no memory of my father doing anything to me, but sexual abuse can lead to urinary dysfunction and I wet the bed until age 12.

(I do have an incident though that always baffled me. I was 4, and my mother had gone crazy, --to the hospital to have my brother. I slept in the same room as my father. He had a double bed and, in the opposite corner, I had a cot. I had a nightmare about a big hairy brown bear that was after me, I was trying to get away when one of his claws scratched my back, Then I was awake and dad was putting me back in the cot, said I fell out of bed, and it felt as though I had been on the floor. I had a scratch on my back when I woke up the next morning.) Why would I remember that? EDIT: OMG It just came to me that I "see' dad putting me in bed as though I were standing in the bedroom doorway! ALWAYS HAVE!

I found a long article on children's dissociation--very technical-- re father's dissociation and mother's dissociation and the effect on children. i won't go into detail as I can barely understand it, and these tests were on boys, not girls. AS well the parents tendency to dissociate was not linked to MPD.

A positive trend emerged between children's dissociation and children's ratings of parental inconsistent discipline.

parental dissociation, child dissociation, and parenting qualities are interrelated

Retrospective studies have consistently found a link between severe childhood punishment and later dissociation

it is likely that these general parenting practices ( parental inconsistency and rejection) serve as stressors for children who then cope using the psychological and behavioral responses that are most natural for them. For some children, stress automatically elicits anger and aggression. For others, stress is dealt with more readily through dissociative processes. A highly stressful environment, then, may provoke repeated and increasingly facile dissociative responses in the predisposed child.

Only 4/27 are even close to me in how I perceive myself.

9. I forget right away what people say to me.

10. I find myself concealing my activities from others.

19. I wish I didn't watch my every move.

20. Even when I have missed several meals I find that I am not hungry.

27. I see myself differently than other people see me.

Leah, I will gladly help you, throught PMs if you want to know how to do the images.

GS,
I cannot remember expressing emotion as a child--------------except once I shoved a broomstrick down my N sister's throat. Mom stopped me from killing her, <tee hee> The judge would have let me off! I was 3-4

As far a Joe, he only overreacted when he was drunk. I remember how happy he was when I told him, for the first, that I loved him.

I am getting older now and some things escape me.

love to all
Izzy
Title: Re: A 'rip' in MY universe---lack of emotions
Post by: isittoolate on February 10, 2007, 07:28:49 PM: The 'only 'nice' thing I recall my father doing, was when I was driving a beat up VW beetle (all I could afford when I left Joe--$15.00 down to hold it) and even I knew at a point it was 'dangerous'.

My father went car shopping, re prices, then to my bank and set up a loan agreement for which he co-signed.

It cost him nothing, but I could borrow the money and update my VW beetle to a safe one!

Even then, I swore I wouldn't let him down. I made every payment.
-------
****

The worst thing my mothert ever did, was when we lived there at first while I found an apt and a job, after leaving Joe, I would spend time at my sisters'. Once she telephoned me there and said my Unc;e (her brother) favourite uncle, was there and "maybe I better stay where I was".

I knew she didn't want me there, but I went there anyway, and found every evidence that my daughter and I lived there, was tossed into our bedroom and the door shut--- I was "not" there!

At dinner, my uncle asked me directly about Joe and my mother jumped in really fast and told hime a lie---that Joe was transferred and looking for a place for us--what to do? Tell the truth and show my mother as a liar?--or let it slide. I let it slide!

all for the sake of CONTROL & appearances!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! eh?

Izzy

AND EDIT: Just had an email from daughter asking where she left off?--so I expect another update! Having an N father, the two kids are in therapy, while the 3rd, I might have mentioned lives with N dad and is becoming, if not already, an N.
Title: Re: A 'rip' in MY universe---lack of emotions
Post by: Hopalong on February 10, 2007, 09:33:38 PM: Hey Izzy,
I'm so glad your daughter is writing to you. Hope her news is better this time, she was going through a lot of stuff.

I hope you have a good sleep tonight and a happy day off tomorrow.

Hops
Title: Re: A 'rip' in MY universe---lack of emotions
Post by: Dazed1 on February 10, 2007, 09:51:25 PM: Izzy,

Your bear dream and the scratch on your back really got me.

What about seeing a T and exploring this issue of your difficulty accessing your emotions?

I think a good T could really help you with this and it would be done is a safe and supportive environment.

Also, that was a great article. Where is it from?

In view of all the junk you have had in your life, you are amazingly resilient.

Love to you,
dazed
Title: Re: A 'rip' in MY universe---lack of emotions
Post by: isittoolate on February 10, 2007, 10:37:31 PM: Thank you Hops

and Dazed1
I, too, wonder why that bear dream sticks with me, especially since I am looking at myself (& Dad holding me by the shoulders and knees and I am in a white nightgowm) as a whole, as opposed to many memories like seeing my hands and arms and the broomstick in my sister's throat but I am attached to what is happening.

The site is
http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0902/is_n3_v22/ai_15452822 (http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0902/is_n3_v22/ai_15452822)

and after I reached the Final page (13) I chose "Child dissociation and the family context"

In view of all the junk you have had in your life made me laugh--it is really a junkpile of everything.

you are amazingly resilient. I'll bet that comes from not being able to attach an emotion to the action--- It's like telling a story I once read a long time ago, and forget some of the details.

Good Luck on the article when you get to it.

xx
Izzy
Title: Re: A 'rip' in MY universe---lack of emotions
Post by: isittoolate on February 11, 2007, 08:34:10 PM: Thanks tt (http://www.slrkelowna.ca/WHITEBAL.GIF)(http://www.slrkelowna.ca/WHITEBAL.GIF)

I happen to be one of those people who think that Dr. Phil knows as many answers as we do--that he is just a performer and making money from it.

I knew one of the 'girls' who was on one of his shows. Her REAL story was far worse that was allowed on TV. She was mixed up with that guy who had married 7 times and she was the one who had him arrested for bigamy--- as 2 of his marriages overlapped.

I am no smarty, or I wouldn't be here, but I know what he his going to do with every situation. I would never waste my money on one of his books.

On the same note, I never watch Oprah!

xx
Izzy
Title: Re: A 'rip' in MY universe---lack of emotions
Post by: teartracks on February 11, 2007, 09:28:36 PM: I hear you Izzy. I respect your right to choose what is right for you.

tt
Title: Re: A 'rip' in MY universe---lack of emotions
Post by: gratitude28 on February 11, 2007, 09:35:57 PM: Izzy,
A little test:

Which emotions do you feel and do you have any associations with them?

Here goes:

Maternal:

Anger:

Compassion:

Fear:

Hate:

Passion:

Desire:

Warmth:

Joy:

Which of things bring anything like a surge? Which have meaning? Which bring up memories?

Love, Beth
Title: Re: A 'rip' in MY universe---lack of emotions
Post by: isittoolate on February 11, 2007, 10:02:52 PM: No surges, Beth

They are just words that I know their meaning, and have likely been through it--but they are still just words.

I only Hated and was Angry with (Anger) my ex SIL,.

Bet I didn't pass your test!

Izzy
Title: Re: A 'rip' in MY universe---lack of emotions
Post by: gratitude28 on February 11, 2007, 10:11:39 PM: It's not a pass or fail, Izzy. I just think you wouldn't be here and you wouldn't be able to feel anger, hurt or hatred wif you had NO emotions. Interesting, though. You really have no associations with any of the words?
Love, Beth
Title: Re: A 'rip' in MY universe---lack of emotions
Post by: isittoolate on February 11, 2007, 11:10:16 PM: Nope!

Only anger

Shame is the master emotion that rules all others, except anger!

I could very easily be a bottomless pit of anger! THat would prevent me from other emotions as Shame is ruling all this.

Wasn't it you who said to me the "we must 'kick this old shame to the curb?" So I googled Shame and that, to me, is my beginning, SHAME!

May God have Mercy on this wretched soul!!
(http://www.copwt.ca/shiningcross.gif)

xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
izzy
Title: Re: A 'rip' in MY universe---lack of emotions
Post by: gratitude28 on February 11, 2007, 11:17:11 PM: (((((((((((((((((((((Izzy)))))))))))))))))

xoxoxo Beth
Title: Re: A 'rip' in MY universe---lack of emotions
Post by: Hopalong on February 12, 2007, 10:14:36 AM: Izzy, I'm really glad you can name shame.
That's huge.

That's where you want to hunt!!!!!

Given how you are with the computer I know you can find a lot of material on toxic shame...dismantling it....working your way through it by asking questions and journaling the answers.....

You DON'T have to have shame as your primary companion for the rest of your life.
You really don't.

(((((((Izzy))))))

Hops
Title: Re: A 'rip' in MY universe---lack of emotions
Post by: Leah on February 12, 2007, 10:21:43 AM: ((((Lovely Izzy))))

Hug for you,

Leah x
Title: Re: A 'rip' in MY universe---lack of emotions
Post by: isittoolate on February 12, 2007, 06:37:16 PM: i thought so too, nursie,

That's why I mentioned my posts. Seemed we might be in the same condition.

Did you make note of the link to Shame? Note that it can begin in 'babyhood', chldhood and I finally realized that SHAME is not like being ashamed ofjust one thing I did.

I really connected with it.

zz
Izzy
Title: Re: A 'rip' in MY universe---lack of emotions
Post by: seastorm on February 17, 2007, 07:49:21 PM: Dear Izzy,

Haven't heard from you for a while and was worried about you.

You describe yourself as unable to feel and yet I find that you have offered me comfort and empathy that touched my soul in a very deep way. I just like you too.

I find the information about shame that you have brought and are exploring really interesting. I can't get my head around it and it is like a big mystery to me. Maybe it is that creepy feeling I have in my stomach that keeps me frozen.

Love
Sea Storm
Title: Re: A 'rip' in MY universe---lack of emotions
Post by: isittoolate on February 17, 2007, 08:33:49 PM: Hi seastorm,

Thanks for 'missing'me. I have been here, but I am still studying Shame, as I await the book. I find the Internet a Wealth of information.

There are times I am so calm and 'emotionless' that I have no complaints, nothing 'to rant and rave about', nor nothing 'to make me jump for joy'. In those times am also not able at all to come up with any words of wisdom for anyone else.

I know what it is like to 'not be able to wrap my mind' around a certain concept that has been foreign to me throughout my life. my mind just goes in circles-------I think that's where i;ve been--going in circles and nothing to say until I stop.

I read that you are going through a bad time, but it will get better. Give it 4 more years of No Contact and in the meantime, check on Shame, as the N must full of it and has loaded your shoulders with it, and I'll bet you are bent over in the middle from carrying the load.

I bought a posture brace for 'after the fact'

Keep on keeping on and I'm not gone

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xx
Izzy
Title: Re: A 'rip' in MY universe---lack of emotions
Post by: seastorm on February 17, 2007, 10:56:52 PM: Whew! I am so glad you are ok.
You got a new back brace? That is very significant. Is it working ok? Is it helping?

Do you think the N person is trying to make me wear his shame? I think you are right. I feel responsible for everything and need to snap out of it. He has no conscience and i am overloaded with it. Can you explain this to me? I can't wait until you get the study of shame completed and integrated into your psyche so you can explain it more.

Sea storm
Title: Re: A 'rip' in MY universe---lack of emotions
Post by: isittoolate on February 18, 2007, 01:03:07 AM: hi seastorm,(http://www.slrkelowna.ca/rose2.gif)

Just think about anything that is dragging you down and making you feel awful............................who put that on your shoulders?

You don't own it----it is his to bear!! Dump it!

That's what I'm trying to do now--is think of anything, shame-wise, whatever, that I don't own and put it where it belongs, with my father, the beatings, the lack of love,--my mother, the lack of protection for a powerless little girl, withholding her love and guidance--- the tauntings and ridicule from my siblings---------------cuz we were never raised to love one another, therefore Parents ultimately own the shame.

If you read about my so-called Christian sister,----it was her shame that she dumped on me to get me to go out that night with her husband, her and his best friend---and I read today that the shame can be 40 years old and still be first recognized. After that filthy email she wrote, that I posted, she did not acknowledge the incident: she attacked me: projection.

I gather we can choose to put the shame where it belongs and rid ourselves of it.

With your abusive husband, it is HIS shame that he does what he does, and then dumps it on you, likely blaming you to your face, and many of us here our likely as heavy-laden as the next one.

I was teasing about the posture brace---for someone all bent over from the weight of the baggage we carry around--- useless stupid baggage, loaded onto our shoulders from whatever age and I know my age was very young!

it's 10:00 pm PST and my dinner is ready!

I love living alone. I can do what, when I want to
xx
Izzy

Oh yes you are PST as well.
Title: Re: A 'rip' in MY universe---lack of emotions
Post by: Dazed1 on February 18, 2007, 02:20:17 AM: Hey Izzy,

Have you considered exploring the shame with a therapist?

It may be extra helpful to have a therapist work with you on your specific issues of shame.

Love,
dazed
Title: Re: A 'rip' in MY universe---lack of emotions
Post by: isittoolate on February 18, 2007, 02:47:52 AM: Hi Dazed1

Oh yes. a therapist---as soon as the snow goes and I find one!

Not doing so well on my own, eh?

My mind is going a mile a minute and I'm looking for old letters from my paternal grandmother, written to my dad pre-WWII an after, something like '36-'42? Shame-inducing letters if I recal!
xx
Izzy
Title: Re: A 'rip' in MY universe---lack of emotions
Post by: Dazed1 on February 18, 2007, 02:58:53 AM: Hey Izzy,

Not doing so well on my own, eh?

OMG, Izzy!! that is not what I meant at all. I'm sorry if it came across that way.

What I meant is as follows: I've been reading, for like the last year now, how a "therapeutic relationship" is so helpful as we sort thru our Foo dysfunction.

As soon as my work life slows down in the next couple of months, I'm going back into therapy because I miss the "therapeutic relationship".

I read a lot about the FOO dysfuction stuff from which I suffer and some of it is very scary and depressing. I know that if I was in therapy, I could discuss it with my therapist and he/she would give me more perspective.

So, no Izzy, I think you're doing really, really well. You have grown IMMENSELY in the short time you've been on this board. You know that you have grown IMMENSELY, don't ya?

I hope you were just gettin my goat, girl!

Letters from pre WWII? Sounds fascinating. Would love to hear about it if you want to share.

Love,
dazed
Title: Re: A 'rip' in MY universe---lack of emotions
Post by: isittoolate on February 18, 2007, 08:03:26 PM: Hi Dazed1(http://www.slrkelowna.ca/rose.gif)

I dig ya babee!

I was told there was a therapist, a good one, in a building just one street over from mine. The snow is actually gone: nice clear sidewalks and I was out today. I checked the Board on that Building (my optometrist is there) but I see no therapist. There are none in the phone book--although I just thought they might be listed under Physicians and Surgeons---my last hope for a new therapist.

I had one before, after I left the Psychopath. I didn't know he was one. I just knew what I knew. So was stuck in a groove and the therapist knocked me into the next groove by identifying his PD--she also said Narcissist and to study up on that.

I did and the light of day dawned and I saw what happened.

However, she became odd, as when I asked her something pertaining to me, she went off on a tangent, on my dime, about what she did, or what happened to her. She also made promises she didn't keep. I wonder if she is an N? She has left town.

We would meet for lunch etc. and that ruined a professional relationship. That is a no-no, she said so at the beginning, but when we were 'finshed' she was still therapizing me at lunch.

I have time. I am not insane, and I keep reading/searching for anything that fits.

xx
Izzt
Title: Re: A 'rip' in MY universe---lack of emotions
Post by: Hopalong on February 18, 2007, 09:51:22 PM: Hey Iz,
Is it possible that therapist just doesn't keep their name on the board?

Sometimes they don't.

Can you stop someone in that building and ask???

Dang, that would be so good, if you had easy access to a good.

(Boy, the other wouldn't know a professional boundary if they wrapped her up in one!)

Hops
Title: Re: A 'rip' in MY universe---lack of emotions
Post by: Dazed1 on February 18, 2007, 10:52:05 PM: Iz,

you crack me up, babee.

Yup, it's essential to be able to spot when a good therapist goes bad.

Dang, it is hard to find a new therapist. Best to interview them and test drive them.

Good luck finding a T, babee,

dazed