Voicelessness and Emotional Survival Message Board
Voicelessness and Emotional Survival => Voicelessness and Emotional Survival Message Board => Topic started by: changing on September 17, 2007, 03:34:23 PM
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I got a call today from NH- He left a message, said that he wants me to meet him somewhere and sign over some property. I would, except for the last encounter- I won't speak to that jackal again, and don't fancy a shotgun in my midst. I must work furiously to finish- took off school again- I think I'm going to move, anyway, I have always wanted to travel and never had the chance.
Arrivederci y Cioa,
Changing
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Changing,
If you ever have to be in the same airspace as him ever again, you will take someone with you, won't you?
Janet
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Changing,
I would DEFINITELy steer clear... Are you serious about moving? I think that would be a great idea. Please keep yourself safe.
Love, Beth
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Thank You My Dears-
I have a locked gate and dogs- I am clearing out and staying elsewhere- must find a suitable place for the pets, so they stay here for the present. Will have workers here when I come.
Thank you for being there,
Changing
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Changing..... siging over property to him... because he orders you to?
Don't like the sound of that and I don't like the idea that he wants to 'meet' you somewhere either but you already knew that, right?
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I don't like it either. It gives me giant creeps. All such inquiries and communications should go through a 3rd party such as a lawyer. A lawyer's office is the ideal venue for any meetings, also.
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Changing,
You are saying that you will not meet NH for any reason, aren't you?
Just checkin... to adjust worry-o-meter...
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Thank You Friends Janet Iphi Gratitude Lighter Certain Hope-
Thank you for caring and bringing so much to my attention. I will not even answer my phone at this point. I have given the info to my lawyer regarding the weapons, his psychiatrist's name, etc, and am serious about not being near or talking to NH again. I made the mistake of working myself to death getting his things out, only to have him lie and not even take them- his things will be moved to storage last, right now the cats are sleeping on them out front. If I thought signing would end things, I would do so in a heartbeat. I had suggested mediated divorce, which is much more thrifty and quicker as well. Now, I want my lawyer to handle it all, no matter the expense- I want out, and I want to move most likely. I can live better in another area anyway, and I have been offered full scholarships and living $ at ABA schools- even if it is too late, I can go elsewhere and apply again. I have no desire to duke it out with a fool- sometimes you lose, against all odds.
If he barges in, he will have to hire a locksmith who will be here, and if I am here at that point, I am leaving straightaway.
Thank you for being there for me.
Love,
Changing
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Good, Changing. Promise, NO MATTER WHAT, you will avoid contact, OK?
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Gratitude-
I promise. Thank you for your concern, I know that this is serious. I'm sticking with my puppy-dog Samson today, he has a huge bark and hears everything, and will leave tonight, when people are out on the block. Thank you for being a good friend and keeping me on task!
Love,
Changing
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I hope you will not go anywhere near him without a bodyguard AND lawyer, Changing.
Please talk to the attorney you found at the college, eh?
I hope you're not saying you'd have to drop out of law school?
Do you mean THAT kind of move?
For a bodyguard, how about a security cop from the campus?
Might do it for a pizza.
Will be anxious for your followup...
love,
Hops
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Thank you, dear Changing.
I don't have many words right now, but please know that you're in my prayers, as always.
With love,
Carolyn
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Hi Hoppy-
I will never ever again speak with that bagworm again, ever if I can help it. As for seeing him, that goes double. I will split, pronto. I don't care if the lawyers get the lion's share-no mediation, no court appearances, nada- lawyer only. He actually had the nerve to say that he trusts me, etc- well I don't trust him, and it is worth the cost to keep suchlike scum from my midst.
Thank you for talking with me, I will keep you posted.
Love,
Changing
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Dear Hope-
That means a great deal to me. Thank you.
Love,
Changing
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It's amazing how much better you feel when you don't have to be subjected to their voices and presense any more, ((changing))
NC is a good plan.... a very good plan.
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It appears everyone has said it all.
Sign over property? jointly held? do you want to?
Take good care
Lovve
Izzy
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Hello Lighter and Izzy-
Lighter it is almost tragic that those immortal Shakespearean lines that you penned may never be recited to the Bagworm. Oh, the injustice of it all! But I still laugh when I read them. Izzy, you could do a lot of damage as a Contracts attorney- your sharp mind gets right to the heart of the matter- Yes Yes No- I don't want to sign anything over...no matter how I placate, it will never end, and you should smack me silly if I ever make any agreements with Bagworm. Let the lawdogs have it in 15 minute increments. Well worth it if I never have any dealings with that Bagworm again.
Love,
Changing
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Eh..... can't you find some slimey pervert.... who's way attracted to the bagworm.... to be the go between....
ahem.... FREE go between, lol?
hee
Attorneys get paid a LOT to be go betweens.
And you never know.... you may get to recite some of those great Shakespearean gershlappities....
to bagworm......
in the courtroom......
when no one's looking or listening......
before court starts; )
The attorney's'll be in the hallway.... pattin each other on the back trying to figure out how to settle and knock off early for the day :shock:
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The attorney's'll be in the hallway.... pattin each other on the back trying to figure out how to settle and knock off early for the day
Oh, jeez, Lighter, is that the worst part or what? Did you get the feeling that they were actually having their own little party and we were just invited to stand outside and watch?
Ergh.
CB
I felt like that.... sort'a.... and something mooooooorrrre.
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The attorney's'll be in the hallway.... pattin each other on the back trying to figure out how to settle and knock off early for the day
Oh, jeez, Lighter, is that the worst part or what? Did you get the feeling that they were actually having their own little party and we were just invited to stand outside and watch?
Ergh.
CB
I felt like that.... sort'a.... and something mooooooorrrre.
I felt that something mooooooorrrre, as well... something like collusion, and something like... I was but a monkey and the courthouse was their own private little zoo. Definitely doesn't inspire confidence when you know it's all a game to them. Thankfully (heh) there was no big money/property involved, so there was no big advantage to them in alotta wheel spinnin.
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What blew me away when I got my divorce is when I went into the courthouse my ex's lawyer sent a partner who was a friend of MINE in college so to see him representing ex was hard!
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What blew me away when I got my divorce is when I went into the courthouse my ex's lawyer sent a partner who was a friend of MINE in college so to see him representing ex was hard!
eek... Kelly! My suspicious mind wonders whether that was intentional... to set you off-balance. They sure can be calculating! That musta been very distracting.
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Well we were making nice and then into court. Luckily my ex brought nothing to the marriage so didnt demand much!
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Hello Dears-
I had a telephone appointment with the Dean of Students Office of my law school today. I have been getting a creepy feeling from those calls from the Bagworm demanding that I meet him and sign the property over to him as sole owner, and his showing up at my gate- I have been frantically finishing up with getting out of the house (before that accident, I could do this sort of thing so quickly! It's aggravating...) so I decided to take one more day and get it done , rather than go back and forth and feel anxious about what will happen next. When the P.I. gets Bagworm's address, I can have the restraining order served and guns taken away right then and there-otherwise things could worsen at that point...
The Dean's rep said that I could just say that I had a medical condition or tell about the entire thing to the profs (What do you think?)
She also said that I need to bring a photo of Bagworm so the guards will take him down if he tries to get in the grounds of the law school, and that they can get me a notetaker, help with typing items, etc. Not what I had hoped for (I don't know exactly what I had hoped for!) but it's a start. They need written permission to speak with my attorney,but that's a good thing, actually.
I am going in some direction, but which...I need to settle down and think, make choices, and plan, so that I am more effective. Thank you for being there!
Love,
Changing
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Dear Changing,
Personally, I would tell as many people as are willing to listen to be on the lookout for the bagworm.
Doesn't have to be a lengthy explanation, just so they know he is dangerous.
Because he is. Anyone who is that unstable is dangerous, in my experience.
And I hope you get that protective order soonest!!
Love,
Carolyn
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Certain Hope-
Thank you for you view on this- I am afraid that I hadn't thought of it that way, and I think you are quite right... However, do you think that the profs will write me off as a kook? Oh, I hate this whole thing, and being associated with a Bagworm. It feels like this will never end, but of course it must. Everything seems so hard, I feel like I am freezing up, becoming unable to act or make decisions- I do not like that aspect of my pesonality!!!
Thank you,
Changing
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Changing,
The bagworm has had you cowering behind a locked gate with your dogs.
Your survival instincts are keen... but only you can give them voice.
I have no doubt that this is not the first such account of terrorizing these people have heard. Perhaps they've even had such events within their own families - a sister, daughter, friend. I think you'll be amazed at the level of support you find when you share your very valid concerns with them with all sincerity.
I know those feelings so well... but your worm associations have ended. He wasn't a worm when you associated... well, he was, but he was a worm in disguise. God help you to not let him attach his shame to you any more... it's not yours to carry. Put it back where it belongs, okay? Then you won't be frozen.
With love,
Carolyn
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Thank you Hope- I'll do it!!!!
Love,
Changing
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Good post Hope
and changing,
Just keep up the forward movement. Do what you can and take help when it is needed (Look who's talking!--but I'm trying)
Apply your version of "Walk carefully and carry a big stick!"
Look over your shoulder and carry an UZI?
Am off to therapy! OBVIOUSLY I NEED IT!
Love
Izzy
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Izzy You Wild Woman You-
Thank you for your funny/smart post. I think that I will go back to therapy as well- I was holding things together, now I feel I can commit the time, etc. Hope you are doing well. What type of bird has replaced your blue rose (excuse my ornithological ignorance)?
Love you,
Changing
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Changing- yuck! Breaking up is hard to do. How do you love someone and then end up hating them? And why do some people get weird and ugly? Protect yourself-that is the main issue. You do not want to become an ugly statistic!
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That's a redwinged blackbird.
I am surrounded by mountains here, but the city is all level, and one mountain I can drive up, as a place to show people, like the sibs who came.
Halfwayup the mountain, there is a road that leads to a play/picnic ground and also had a small SWAMP. It is filled with catails and that is where all the redwinged blackbirds come. It is a peaceful place.
Ixxy
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You Little Forest Sprite!
Than you for the trip to the mountain- it cleared my smoggy head!
Love,
Changing
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That's a redwinged blackbird.
I am surrounded by mountains here, but the city is all level, and one mountain I can drive up, as a place to show people, like the sibs who came.
Halfwayup the mountain, there is a road that leads to a play/picnic ground and also had a small SWAMP. It is filled with catails and that is where all the redwinged blackbirds come. It is a peaceful place.
Ixxy
Its a beautiful bird, Izzy! I love forests and critters too.
X bella