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Title: Fuzzy Wuzzy.... what wuzz he?
Post by: lighter on December 14, 2007, 04:55:32 PM: Fuzzy Wuzzy was a bear, Fuzzy Wuzzy had no hair.... in the end... does it really matter why we think he lost his hair?

As long as he isn't stuffing it down our throats and telling us it's peanut butter pie :shock:

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Title: Re: Fuzzy Wuzzy.... what wuzz he?
Post by: Certain Hope on December 14, 2007, 05:06:14 PM: I voted and I'd also like to recommend that FW explore hair transplant options!
Title: Re: Fuzzy Wuzzy.... what wuzz he?
Post by: Ami on December 14, 2007, 05:30:35 PM: Lighter----IF you are disparaging Lise, Richard DOES not allow bullying. (contentless) Ami
Title: Re: Fuzzy Wuzzy.... what wuzz he?
Post by: Ami on December 14, 2007, 05:39:07 PM: Richard has been contacted about this poll. I hate to be forced to "tell the teacher' BUT that is what the teacher is for. Ami
Title: Re: Fuzzy Wuzzy.... what wuzz he?
Post by: Leah on December 14, 2007, 05:46:07 PM: " The Mirror that Cracked " by Agatha Christie has been voted No.1 Top all time classic
Title: Re: Fuzzy Wuzzy.... what wuzz he?
Post by: Ami on December 14, 2007, 05:48:49 PM: Leah
I HOPE that I am misunderstanding you and that you are not this "scary"
Title: Re: Fuzzy Wuzzy.... what wuzz he?
Post by: JanetLG on December 14, 2007, 06:05:30 PM: What I think is that, if we hadn't all been subjected to all that apparently 'religious' twaddle all day, we wouldn't have NEEDED some light relief!!!

What goes around comes around.

Janet
Title: Re: Fuzzy Wuzzy.... what wuzz he?
Post by: Ami on December 14, 2007, 06:06:03 PM: This is a cruel ,mocking thread Leah.I know that YOU are a very sensitive person who would NOT like mocking of her--as no one else would--right?
Title: Re: Fuzzy Wuzzy.... what wuzz he?
Post by: Ami on December 14, 2007, 06:07:50 PM: There IS a right and wrong in life-Janet , Leah and Lighter. Richard KNOWS this and he will do what is right. YOU can count on it !!! Ami
Title: Re: Fuzzy Wuzzy.... what wuzz he?
Post by: Ami on December 14, 2007, 06:15:05 PM: We are fortunate to have a godly person in Richard, He will decide the truth of the matter.
Title: Re: Fuzzy Wuzzy.... what wuzz he?
Post by: Ami on December 14, 2007, 06:25:55 PM: I NEVER went against you.Leah. I promise. I tried to mediate between you and Lise ,as a help. I never meant you hurt even though you took it that way. I would NOT hurt you.I honor the pain you suffered as a child and my heart breaks for you.
I hope that you can see beyond the '" picture" you have formed of me, Leah. You honor my people and that is very precious to me. You did not take my comments right,even though you don't see it that way. I am telling you that I did not try to hurt or humiliate you--just offer a reasonable suggestion.
I hope that you can consider this. Ami
Title: Re: Fuzzy Wuzzy.... what wuzz he?
Post by: Certain Hope on December 14, 2007, 07:21:41 PM: Amazingly enough, I actually have something to say.

If there's one thing that I've learned here on this board (and I've learned much here!) it's that NO one else has a right/the authority/ or the ability to judge my intentions/motivations/heart.

Nobody.

I do not see this as a cruel, mocking thread. I don't have to agree with Lighter on everything to post in response to her and I don't have to despise her or label her as a cruel mocker simply because I disagree with her on occasion.

In my opinion, there are others here on this board who would do well to dispose of their black vs white thinking styles.
I offer that opinion in loving concern for those who prefer to label others instead of working out their own internal issues.

The fact is = What nobody else on this board knows except for Lighter herself, is that she and I had a bit of a Fuzzy Wuzzy discussion many months ago. Because of that connection and due to my memory of the connotations of that past discussion, I chose to post.

I mock no one.

With love,
Carolyn
Title: Re: Fuzzy Wuzzy.... what wuzz he?
Post by: Ami on December 14, 2007, 07:28:49 PM: You mocked me b/c this thread is about me
Title: Re: Fuzzy Wuzzy.... what wuzz he?
Post by: Certain Hope on December 14, 2007, 07:37:59 PM: Quote from: Ami on December 14, 2007, 07:28:49 PM
You mocked me b/c this thread is about me

Ami,

If your post is directed to me, I can only assure you that I spend zero of my limited time and energy mocking you.

If your post is not directed to me, at least I've clarified that to myself and anyone else who's interested.

Amen.
Title: Re: Fuzzy Wuzzy.... what wuzz he?
Post by: lighter on December 14, 2007, 07:43:56 PM: Quote from: Certain Hope on December 14, 2007, 07:21:41 PM
Amazingly enough, I actually have something to say.

The fact is = What nobody else on this board knows except for Lighter herself, is that she and I had a bit of a Fuzzy Wuzzy discussion many months ago. Because of that connection and due to my memory of the connotations of that past discussion, I chose to post.

I mock no one.

With love,
Carolyn

YOU REMEMBERED, lol! Yes.... : ) And I still miss you.
Title: Re: Fuzzy Wuzzy.... what wuzz he?
Post by: Certain Hope on December 14, 2007, 07:49:21 PM: lol... yes, I remember...

you know, I honestly don't understand you 62.4% of the time, and 28.7% is hazy, at best, but one of the other many things I've learned here on the board and at home is I am SO much more blessed to simply put the best construction on EVERYthing!
Okay, well MOST things.
Title: Re: Fuzzy Wuzzy.... what wuzz he?
Post by: lighter on December 14, 2007, 07:52:49 PM: I think about Fuzzy Wuzzy so much since you suggested it, lol.

You have no idea, which isn't a good thing... now that I think of it :shock:

But it is a release thing, lol.
Title: Re: Fuzzy Wuzzy.... what wuzz he?
Post by: Ami on December 14, 2007, 07:54:07 PM: Everyone who is laughing at this thread is laughing(mocking) at me. It is a bad witness, Certain Hope.
Title: Re: Fuzzy Wuzzy.... what wuzz he?
Post by: Ami on December 14, 2007, 07:56:58 PM: We will have to see what Richard says Certain Hope---won't we?
Title: Re: Fuzzy Wuzzy.... what wuzz he?
Post by: Ami on December 14, 2007, 08:02:19 PM: I am so smart that I JUST realized it was ME.
Title: Re: Fuzzy Wuzzy.... what wuzz he?
Post by: Gabben on December 14, 2007, 08:04:10 PM: Ami walk with me....let's go somewhere else.
Title: Re: Fuzzy Wuzzy.... what wuzz he?
Post by: Certain Hope on December 14, 2007, 08:05:48 PM: Quote from: Ami on December 14, 2007, 07:54:07 PM
Everyone who is laughing at this thread is laughing(mocking) at me. It is a bad witness, Certain Hope.

Ami,

I can't speak for "everyone" and neither can you.

If Dr. Grossman takes issue with this thread, I'm confident that he'll explain his reasoning.

In the meanwhile, you'd do well to question your own line of reasoning and consider whether it's realistic to think that "everyone" is revolving her/his thoughts around you. I certainly am not thinking of you... at least I wasn't until you repeatedly tried to insert yourself into the midst of this thread.

Apparently your own thoughts and energies are totally revolving around your self at this point, but mine are not.

Carolyn
Title: Re: Fuzzy Wuzzy.... what wuzz he?
Post by: Ami on December 14, 2007, 08:08:25 PM: You are right Lise.. I am out of here. Richard will decide if the poll is mocking me--Certain Hope.
Title: Re: Fuzzy Wuzzy.... what wuzz he?
Post by: lighter on December 14, 2007, 08:29:31 PM: "You did not take my comments right,even though you don't see it that way. I am telling you that I did not try to hurt or humiliate you--just offer a reasonable suggestion.
I hope that you can consider this. " Ami

Ami, why is it that posters suggesting this same sentiment (to you)..... are dismissed without a second thought, (by you?)

But you expect others to see clearly that your intentions are different than everyone else's?

This is a rhetorical question since you already left the thread kick'in rocks and eat'in bologna samiches with friends; )
Title: Re: Fuzzy Wuzzy.... what wuzz he?
Post by: Certain Hope on December 14, 2007, 09:04:02 PM: Quote from: lighter on December 14, 2007, 08:29:31 PM
"You did not take my comments right,even though you don't see it that way. I am telling you that I did not try to hurt or humiliate you--just offer a reasonable suggestion.
I hope that you can consider this. " Ami

Ami, why is it that posters suggesting this same sentiment (to you)..... are dismissed without a second thought, (by you?)

But you expect others to see clearly that your intentions are different than everyone else's?

I think that this is an excellent question and worthy of a direct response.

This little exchange here has really brought some issues to light for me!

First off, my Dad was always making light of stuff that others in the family thought should be taken with utmost seriousness.
During one of those episodes, it seemed to be considered a betrayal... or, at the very least, clear evidence of shallowness... to continue to speak and interact with Dad.

Well phooey on that. It has been my personal experience that those who take themselves so ultra-seriously and then take it upon themselves to insist that everyone else follow suit... well, the word *dull* doesn't do them justice.

I am NOT dull... nor am I difficult.

I am not going to hush up simply because somebody chooses to try to enforce her self-obsession on me
and I am not going to stop associating with certain persons for fear of threats of retribution/silencing.

I posted on this thread because I recalled my long-ago mention to Lighter about Fuzzy Wuzzy.
That convo had absolutely nothing to do with anyone on this message board and neither did my reply today.

You know what? I've been quiet as a mouse here lately and I think that time has now officially passed.
Thanks for the lesson! I don't have to explain myself to anyone and I will NOT be a "respecter of persons" or limit my interactions to suit anyone else but God Himself.

Amen again.
Title: Re: Fuzzy Wuzzy.... what wuzz he?
Post by: Leah on December 14, 2007, 09:32:09 PM: What exactly is Abuse ? The title of the thread that I started today has been most liberating and validating for me, personally.

Using this space on this Voicelessness and Emotional Survival Board as a woman of reasonable intelligence (sorry if that offends anyone)

May I be permitted to voice my deep disappointment that it is clearly evident that many threads and posts are decided upon the land circular land of PM where the court decides who is 'In' and who is 'Out' (thankfully, to date, no invitation has come my way)

Naively, once again in my life, I thought that others behaved as I did, as in sitting here studiously and carefully reading through the thread which contains the details and heart of a fellow human being in real life and taking care and consideration with the heart of the real life human being.

I do understand and acknowledge that time is sometimes a constraint.

During my time here as a member of this board I have had to endure attempted Sabotage of my Character with (dare I say) abusive Maltreatment and also have been falsely accused.

Today, Observer, has joined the board, on Lupita's thread, and has admirably posted her apology for my having been falsely accused of being Observer, to which I have gracefully responded with all sincerity.

But, as yet, no apology has been forthcoming from my accusers.

And still dismissive hurtful responses for wrongdoings, as exampled in the previous posting here on this thread.

Yesterday, I suffered deep hurt at the hand of someone I had respected who had jumped to the wrong conclusion about me due to evidently not read through a thread, only reading the last posts, and making an assumption. When this was pointed out I received a most cruel dismissive response, which hurt deeply and reminded me of my NM because she used those very words to me year in year out, and others have dismissed me with those shallow words too.

This board, just like any other board, has real live human beings attached to it, with real lives and real hearts, please remember, that jumping to wrongful conclusions (whether due to not having bothered to read through the thread postings or not) and / or wrongful assumptions, potentially kills hearts and souls in real life.

That's real life folks!

Cyberbullying is epidemic with suicidal casualties, sorry, but that is a fact of real life too. (remember the recent Megan post ?)

Furthermore, and finally, I would like to forgive those who have maltreated me, and have been so dismissive, but, how can I ? When they have already accused me of forgiving people too readily. So I feel a bit entrapped.

However, my voice is mine and it will always remain respectfully vocal with due care and consideration.

No one will ever take my new pair of shoes of my feet, which are going to make beautiful footprints along my new life journey.

Love, Leah
Title: Re: Fuzzy Wuzzy.... what wuzz he?
Post by: Gabben on December 14, 2007, 09:45:38 PM: Quote from: LeahsRainbow on December 14, 2007, 09:32:09 PM
Today, Observer, has joined the board, on Lupita's thread, and has admirably posted her apology for my having been falsely accused of being Observer, to which I have gracefully responded with all sincerity.

Just wanted to point out that the sock puppet poster on Janet's thread was "An Observer." Not "Observer."

BTW: Observer showed up on the "feelings as reality" thread and paid you a wonderful compliment -- to add, I am glad that the two of you are connecting. You deserve a good friend Leah.
Title: Re: Fuzzy Wuzzy.... what wuzz he?
Post by: Leah on December 14, 2007, 09:58:49 PM: Lise,

The true fact is that on December 12 'Observer' posted as a GUEST (and yes, did pay me a compliment)

on Re: Feelings as reality

« Reply #44 on: December 12, 2007, 04:54:07 PM »

However, TODAY

Observer as JOINED the board as a Newbie Member on Lupita's thread

which is what I was referring to in my above post.

Leah
Title: Re: Fuzzy Wuzzy.... what wuzz he?
Post by: Certain Hope on December 14, 2007, 10:04:50 PM: Dear Leah,

I don't know the who's and what's (exactly) to whom/which you are referring, but I am very sorry to know that you've continued to be wounded here.

For many weeks now, I've been unable to bring myself to read much of the board, so it's only been the most recent developments which caught my attention... but I can imagine, only too well.

The private-message-circle is not for me, I know that.
At this point in my life, I am taking great pains to NOT be part or parcel of any particular clique/agenda/machinations.... and that, because I've recognized how susceptible I am to the outlooks of others (at least that's true with those whom I genuinely like and respect)

So now... this is just me, no strings attached... with not much time to delve deeply into many topics, but willing to lend an ear (and heart) as possible.

Maybe this is some sort of role-playing exercise for some folks, I don't know... but for me, it's been an introduction to a level of communication which I'd never known was even possible... and I'm so very grateful.

I hope that you will continue to stand just as you're doing now, Leah... in Truth and Light... that's the only Way.

With love,
Carolyn

PS - It is the knowledge of my heart that you not only deserve MANY good friends, but also that you ARE a good friend, Leah!
Title: Re: Fuzzy Wuzzy.... what wuzz he?
Post by: Gabben on December 14, 2007, 10:14:49 PM: Hi Leah,

Question - how could "observer" be falsely accused if they were never on Janet's thread in the first place..it was An observer.

"observer" has been welcomed to the board and was invited tell us about themselves.

The bottom line was that there were sock puppets, that is fact, on a volatile thread which created deception, deception blurs reality for everyone, which hurts everyone, how do you feel about that? I felt hurt by the deception.

Also "dismayed" showed up rather quickly on our thread when we had a confrontation and submitted an article about relational aggression. "dismayed" also showed up on Ami's "Aunt" thread where another emotionally high charged conversation took place and was the one who typed in huge bold letter about verbal abuse.

Lise
Title: Re: Fuzzy Wuzzy.... what wuzz he?
Post by: Leah on December 14, 2007, 10:38:37 PM: Dear Lise,

So did PAPS and I have received a beautiful heartbreaking letter of apology today from the owner of PAPS which will wisely remain

in my confidence.

Rest assured, that is the truth.

Leah
Title: Re: Fuzzy Wuzzy.... what wuzz he?
Post by: Dr. Richard Grossman on December 14, 2007, 10:49:12 PM: Lighter,

This poll/post was meant as provocation. The poll has been removed. You have now been warned twice. If it happens again, you will be banned. This thread has been locked and will be deleted within 24 hours.

Richard