Voicelessness and Emotional Survival Message Board
Voicelessness and Emotional Survival => Voicelessness and Emotional Survival Message Board => Topic started by: Dr. Richard Grossman on January 15, 2008, 09:07:56 PM
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Hi everybody,
I thought some board members (particularly the women) might appreciate this piece!
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/15/health/15mind.html?scp=1&sq=midlife+crisis
(You may have to register with the Times in order to read it--but registration is free.)
Best,
Richard
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Excellent article, Dr. Grossman! I thoroughly enjoyed reading... ( probably because I thoroughly agreed with the view stated - lol ) thanks so much!!
Sincerely,
Carolyn
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Brilliant! Thank you, Dr Grossman
Much appreciated. Have snapped a copy of the 'picture'!
Sincerely,
Leah
PS > Need not be a generalization.
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I believe in that view as well--and with the picture.
All men are little children at heart, with the exception of our wonderful host, Dr. Grossman.
Thanks
Izzy
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This place is already awash in estrogen as it is Doc. No need to toss we few men an anchor as we bob about in it.
mud
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hee hee, Mud!
My thoughts exactly!
So, so, sorry! It's GOT to be overwhelming.
Love you,
CB
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It takes a real man to survive THIS board(lol) . Ami
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I suppose both men and women get mid-life crises. Life can have many crises, being what it is.
The menopause can be particularly difficult for many women, and sheer hell for the men who have to put up with them LOL.
Give the guys a break!
Hermes
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Do you all know how SICK my husband is?????? His idea of a midlife crisis is to train for triathlons. What is wrong with the man?????
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Dear CB123:
I agree with you fully. I am sure there are some men on this group. Yes?
I have a low endurance threshold when it comes to listening to male bashing, even in what seems like a mild form. All humans have their faults, men and women. Women are far from perfect. I know. I am one! LOL. 8)
I have no sisters, and practically all my cousins are male (the one or two female cousins were older than me). So, I played with the boys, and I think my mother used to despair of me!
I get on well with men, possibly better than I do with women.
I dislike shopping, in particular I dislike shopping for clothes (my women friends are so perplexed by this LOL), I like action movies, westerns, science fiction....
You might wonder how on earth did I meet and marry an N. I probably would not have done so had I not been introduced to him by a well-meaning friend. Which is why I sometimes draw the "accident" analogy. Nor did I marry in the first flush of youth.
So if it is any consolation, anyone can get taken in by the N, anyone.
All the best
Hermes
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Thinking about it some, Dr Grossman is a man and he was/is okay with the article!
And personally, I don't do Generalizing.
I took the article to mean what is says on the label ~ not generally all, only those that do, is my referred view.
((( Mud ))) and ALL the men homeboard.
Leah
I am keeping the picture :)
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Hello Leah:
Only just expressing my view. That is allowed. Yes?
I don't generalize either. There are all kinds. Mid-life...well some (both men and women) sail through it, others find it more difficult. That is how it is.
No sweat LOL
Hermes
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Hello Hermes
My post was not addressed to, nor, directed to in response, to you personally.
But rather, it was my just writing out my personal view, in particular, after reading again, the article.
As a free thinking individual with a sense of humor, hence the piccy pun!! :)
Have posted recently on my thread regarding the concept of generalization.
That's all!
Who's sweating? :lol:
I only glow!
Love, Leah
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maybe I read the article a different way - I took it as saying the majority of men do not report having mid-life crises and that most "improve" with age
So it was a tribute to men in my mind.
It was only dissing narcissitc men for using the excuse of having "mid-life" crises, when in fact it is just their personality.
bean
That's exactly how I read it too, Bean
Not as a generalization against men.
Can't perceive Dr Grossman posting it as anything other than that.
Leah
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maybe I read the article a different way - I took it as saying the majority of men do not report having mid-life crises and that most "improve" with age
So it was a tribute to men in my mind.
It was only dissing narcissitc men for using the excuse of having "mid-life" crises, when in fact it is just their personality.
bean
me, too, bean
Carolyn
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Sounds fine to me.
However, and not to labour the point, the article did not say "Mid-life crises in NPD men".
I suppose what I want to say is that although I suffered awful trauma because of an NPD husband I do not believe that henceforth men and NPD should be synonymous.
Best to all
Hermes
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I do not believe that henceforth men and NPD should be synonymous.
I hope the hell not, Hermes,or we would ALL be in trouble(LOL) ! Ami
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Sounds fine to me.
However, and not to labour the point, the article did not say "Mid-life crises in NPD men".
I suppose what I want to say is that although I suffered awful trauma because of an NPD husband I do not believe that henceforth men and NPD should be synonymous.
Best to all
Hermes
Likewise, I too have suffered awful life threatening trauma at the hands of an NPD husband (ex).
I do not believe that henceforth men and NPD should be synonymous.
And, likewise, this my expressed belieft also, as I am fortunate to know of, and respect, NON disordered men, of whom, the dialogue is most engaging and enjoyable.
Leah
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Leah and all,
Due to my life's history, I would tend to think women fall more on the N side. All my N dealings have been with women, so I have never found men to be synonomous with NPD.
Love, Beth
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Leah and all,
Due to my life's history, I would tend to think women fall more on the N side. All my N dealings have been with women, so I have never found men to be synonomous with NPD.
Love, Beth
Dear Beth,
In my life experience the Women were the worst!!!! Subliminal ~ Subjective ~ Cunning and Crafty ...... they ate me alive!
Thank you for expressing what I dared not, the truth, in a balanced perspective.
Love, Leah
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The article seems rather lightweight, biased and sexist to me. 23% of the population claims to have had a mid life crisis and he writes it off as a "distinct minority"? If it was any other condition this statistic would be considered epidemic level. Sure some people take advantage of the label to behave badly, but is there any mental "condition" for which this isn't a possibility?
If someone invents an expensive pill to cure it, watch the attitude change drastically. Then men will be invited to "ask their doctor about new midlifeease" :D
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Well, that's cleared that up, hasn't it LOL.
Hermes