Voicelessness and Emotional Survival Message Board
Voicelessness and Emotional Survival => Voicelessness and Emotional Survival Message Board => Topic started by: debkor on July 13, 2008, 03:32:12 AM
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I was looking at a sight.. and came across this link..They had it titled. A way not to meet Chicks... OMG.. you have to hear this..This guy..well.. you just have to listen...for yourself..talk about N/P/S's.... Just a Warning....this guy is a Jerk..the way he talks could upset some...
The way he spoke I can't imagine how ANYONE would be interested in him.. This is how he started off Right off the bat...1st phone call...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvwN9Qy3SEs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvwN9Qy3SEs)
Love
Deb
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Hi Deb,
Thank you ever so much for posting this - I am going to forward the link onwards to a 3D friend. She has warned me of Internet Dating due to her own harrowing experience, her first and only experience.
The man told her that he was only interested in dating women who are "Independent and Strong!"
So, my question is; do men who are N's (or disorderly) regularly say this?
As I thought they would have preferred a 'timid' woman.
As for the rest of this man's telephone message -- unbelievable! ALL the Red Flags! At least he gave his N/P or whatever, calling card!
However, I can't imagine how I would feel to hear such a message on my answer machine.
Love, Leah
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The man told her that he was only interested in dating women who are "Independent and Strong!"
My theory is that they recognize their own weakness--so are on the look out for someone who can counter that. BUT--they spend the relationship trying to one-up you, because being strong is a threat to them.
My ex NH gave me a venomous look one day and said: "I HATE strong women!" But, by then, I didnt care what he thought (and realized that being married to him was the reason I had become so strong...)
Love
CB
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Oh My Gosh!!!!!!!!!! Ami
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OMG!
This is the voice of my ex son-in-law to a T.
The pauses, the repetition... the dragging out of....to hear his own voicce and control the conversation (even in 3D)
so much the N
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OMG!! That is hysterical!! What an a-hole!! Can't believe it......my favorite new place to poke around........You Tube
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I thought HIS voicemails were hysterical. What a total buffoon. Then I listened to the response from Olga (14). Now that, to me, is really scary. The whole "I'm working on a script," and her response, "wow I'd love to be an actress" dynamic--is there an older one in the book??
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This guy and his messages had me rolling... what a tool..
I do believe that they (N, S, Ps) have a movie they play out in thier minds..what they think the movie should be...and can change the endings NO matter what....but it will always be thier ending... False or not.. because it is thier MOVIE.. thier fantasy....and when the character they placed you or whoever fails short of what he has written... or is not played out how it is written and directed the movie...takes a swing....and the ending is still his.....
You are sick, have issues.. weak...and he destroys you.. in his movie..with all the characters involved....family,friends,employment...and it's his movie.. and his ending....even if not true...or real....
and it seems like the things this guy was playing out.. on the messages.. was saying a whole lot about him.. and his previous movie and the main character.. who RAN before.. or even a current movie going on in his head... who knows.. maybe a wife.... because he did just have to mention....It didn't work out with his past relationship..and said.. there is nothing wrong with him...he is a good catch...he is great in bed..he is writing a script and is around of the weekends....her friends were jealous... she couldn't see that....he had (HAD) to get out of the Area.. was in a rush.....she may have issues, be depressed.. be on meds...be a liar..a coward.. passive agressive.....everything he does/did/plans on doing.. he accused her of...including blowing him off... and he was raged..and the abuse started immeadiately... when he was ignored.. not important..no reaction..no response...
Projection??? Oh yeah........ he is all over the internet and my cousin told me she heard it on the radio..... and now he's international... LOL..... talk about revealing yourself..
Love
Deb
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Hi,
I heard these tapes on a news show. To me, he is a menace to society, not funny one bit. The frightening thing is that he'll probably end up with a following of women who want to give themselves to him to be used however he chooses.
tt
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To me, one of the very good things about this is that these sorts of nuts have been able to operate under the radar for so long. Now, though, as has been said here, he is revealed all over the place. People recognize him for what he is. Hopefully, he wasn't able to isolate this young girl for any time and try to get her in his freaky clutches. But I did find humor in his messages. The type where, if this guy had been speaking to me, I'd have laughed in his face.
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Then I listened to the response from Olga (14). Now that, to me, is really scary. The whole "I'm working on a script," and her response, "wow I'd love to be an actress" dynamic--is there an older one in the book??
Gjazz,
I think the response was a Youtube joke at DUHmitri's expense and not the real Olga.
mud
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Yes, I think it was a role play and very clearly the person playing Demitrie had him down pat. So good to laugh and charicature this kind of behaviour. The really smart Ns are not so obvious.
Thanks for the utube site. Really funny.
Sea Storm
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That was the first thing I asked myself: is this a joke? Both people. If he's real, it's clear why he's targeting children, I don't know any adults who'd be grappling for the phone to call this freak show back. I played it for some friends who came for lunch today. They all thought he was a hoax as well. Not sure--this was the first I'd heard it.
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gjazz,
They did reenactments of Dimitri...but the words the phone call/message was true.. He approached Olga after they left the same bar as she was waiting for a cab...and then you heard for yourself..
A lot of people redo these to their own way.. ....The Olga you listened to was one of them...
Now it gets worse......
I don't know about you all but I was wondering.. Movie Script he works on the weekends...what Porno?
I looked down at comments people made and well....found this.... he is for real.....
and I WARN YOU if you go to his site... HE IS EVEN MORE OFFENSIVE THEN YOU HEARD... no porn, but Oh. such a sicko...
he is from Canada.. and Iz.. there is an article in the Toronto Sun...
any way for those who wish to read....
Goggle... Dimitri the lover....
I won't even post the link.....
Love
Deb
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Deb,
I'm confused now. Did someone figure out who this guy is, and he already had a web presence? Is that what is going on? Or did someone take the original voicemail and turn it into a fake persona?
My first impression when I ran across the voicemail on a blog was that this guy was a garden-variety N like the one I was married to (very grandiose and resentful). He sounds more sinister now--but I can't actually tell what's going on without really reading all this stuff. Probably would feel slimed afterwards...
CB
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Hi CB,
Well I found this .....
The Toronto Sun
The most promiscuous women, according to Dimitri's website, are saleswomen (especially real estate agents), nannies, schoolteachers (especially elementary and early childhood education), nurses and lawyers (criminal and civil litigation in particular).
Dimitri charges $40 to attend one of his weekday meetings, $269 for an annual membership to his "lair" and as much as $2,997 plus GST for a two-day workshop advertised on his website, dimitrithelover.com, where "Dimitri The Lover creates a powerful identity for you that women will find irresistible."
Also from the website:
"Learn the secret physical, verbal and psychological techniques used by Dimitri the Lover to seduce, pleasure and sexually enslave women," says one of his program outlines.
Or this: "A man's 'basic operating system' is composed of 'rapist' and 'murderer' programs which have been hard-wired into his brain.
And here's a snippet from his marketing materials:
"Dimitri The Lover is the ONLY pickup guru in the world WITH PROFESSIONAL CREDENTIALS TO BACK HIM UP who has conducted IN-FIELD MEDICAL RESEARCH ON SEDUCTION!!!" he proclaims in another.
However, his troubled past and medical credentials are hardly worth bragging about.
Dimitri the Lover's real name is James N. Sears.
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By 1986, Sears was in the Canadian Armed Forces and while still a third-year medical student was evaluated by a military psychiatrist who suggested there was "something seriously wrong" with Sears.
He was shunned by fellow students because of his behaviour. A female officer complained he repeatedly tried to enter her room, and military police found "a can of Mace, several knives, two empty smoke grenade canisters and an electronic stun gun" in his room following an incident.
As a result of his antics, Sears had to repeat a year of medical school. Despite documented reservations, he graduated from U of T as a doctor in 1988.
During his internship at Doctors Hospital in Toronto, Sears skipped duties, drank while on call, indulged in "inappropriate self-use of prescription drugs," according to the College hearing record.
Sears was judged "immature" in a subsequent psychiatric assessment and it was noted he displayed "inappropriate behaviour towards female staff members," and was viewed by peers as "un -trustworthy, cynical and narcissistic."
He underwent psychotherapy and was admitted to Ottawa's National Defence Medical Centre in 1990 for evaluation and treatment.
There, "record was made of numerous, random and obsessive telephone calls to women during which he would sometimes masturbate," and evidence suggested "prescribable substance abuse," according to the College hearing records.
However, after a conclusion of "no clear evidence of major psychiatric illness," Sears was cleared to return to medical practice
So ...... he is real alright...
Love
Deb
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DUMB..ITRI
Real Narcissistic Pig! and DiSGusting.
Haven't seen a picture yet, but I guess I don't have to worry out here.
Izzy
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Oh my goodness Deb
He calls himself a "Prophet" and a "Guru" with his "Dimitri Code" !!
He most likely will market a book and make lots of Nmoney -- as N's so love to do.
Real and Slimy indeed.
Leah x
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I sent an anonymous mail to Dumb-itri and received this back...
From: info@secondopinion.ca
All you Bradford girls are the same ...
Quoting izzy@mail.com:
> ...and you think Olga might be a bit passive aggressive?
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> DUMB-ITRI... look up Narcissistic Personality Disorder. It's all you
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> izzy
Now I wonder how he knew I went to school iin Bradford?????
Izzy
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Good sleuthing you guys. I think D. is a galloping n. for sure. A blog talking abourt D. as a comedian would be in order. That he targets little girls is no surprise. Just boggles the mind.
How did he know you were from B. university Iz. That is very weird.
Sea storm
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Iz,
He actually emailed you back?
Deb
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hi sea and deb
Bradford is a small town and I had to go there for Grade 13. I was 16. This is weird that he would mention such an out of the way place, but it is on the same HWY as Toronto....straight north.
I used a false email and name
I was just looking for a picture of him and found an email for his business of Second Opinions on medical diagnoses.
I couldn't help it. The devil made me do it! and I sent only what i posted before.!
Yup
Weird
Izzy
EDIT Yes! He emailed me back.....now I wonder why...expect me to defend Bradford women and keep up a conversation? Ewwwww
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Hey Iz,
That is weird but I bet he has those tracer things..don't know what you call it but it will trace the ip address....not you.. just identify where the host is coming from.. or server... what ever you call it.. lol...
And what a true Nut he is, eh... they always have to get the last word....
love
Deb
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Hi Deb,
Amazing thread, thank you, did you listen to his Radio Interview?
Love,
Leah
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No Deb
My IP traces to Western Canada, not Ontario 2000 miles away.
Maybe my phony name is a real name of someone in Bradford?
Izzy
EDIT................................... OOPS :? :? :? :? :?
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The man told her that he was only interested in dating women who are "Independent and Strong!"
My theory is that they recognize their own weakness--so are on the look out for someone who can counter that. BUT--they spend the relationship trying to one-up you, because being strong is a threat to them.
My ex NH gave me a venomous look one day and said: "I HATE strong women!" But, by then, I didnt care what he thought (and realized that being married to him was the reason I had become so strong...)
Love
CB
Thank you, CB
for shining light on this, now I can see, understand.
Love,
Leah