Voicelessness and Emotional Survival Message Board
Voicelessness and Emotional Survival => Voicelessness and Emotional Survival Message Board => Topic started by: Izzy_*now* on September 28, 2008, 02:32:25 PM
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hi all,
Is this slowing down of the Board for fear of Dr. Grossman stopping it?
I expect the slowing down gives him more reason to stop the Board! and we have a until next summer?
Have all of everybody's problems disappeared?
Sometimes we just mention simpler things, like, for me: I am not ready for a power chair and I will not pay out $6.000.00 ot more for one when my apartment is NOT modified. Those damned things are BIG and will talke up more space than my sofa chair--maybe they could put a battery on it!!
In looking around to where my wall plugs are, for keeping it plugged in, I would have to sell, not move, sell my china cabinet,
and I have not even had my shoulders x-rayed or tested in any way and as my daughter saud---I am not Rick Hansen crossing Canada by chair, I am just going to the Library--.
Izzy
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Have you ever had the feeling that you were the only human left on earth?
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Yes, Iz...the board is working so much slower. Even when all the fighting was going on at least it was VITAL. Now since the doc closed it down and kicked some people off it feels like it is winding down. If any of the few of us get busy then it really goes slow. I miss seeing MUD and Leah and CB and even Reallyme who started to remind me of my mom and I lost patience with her - I miss her!!
I am glad for you and Hops and SS and where the heck is Ami? She used to be on the board NONSTOP! In a few short months she had passed me on the amount of threads I was on, etc. She seems to be quite silent of late.
Love it when I see Teartracks and Lighter and deb and ann3.........we just seem to be talking less and less.........
Where is Portia and Flower??
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Thanks OC
Hopefully they are watching to see what will happen and if there is another place to go!
Izzy
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Yes, Izzy,
I think wothout the new blood and new members to share their worries and old timers to help direct them, it just isn't the same. I think we all know each other very well here. I am sure you all know what my flare-ups will be. I will be OK for a while, and then have a short period of anger. You all will help me see a bit better, and so on... I could run a list like this for most of us. So I think without the new ideas, and newcomers to help, we just don't have the same vavoom.
Love, Beth
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Beth - there are times that I have thought the lack of new blood has something to do with the slow down. I know that there has been a big change in the cast of characters in the past two years but then I think how 3D friendships have longevity and have much to talk about in their lives and wonder why that isn't the case here. I know it has to do with the medium but it seems like there would still be lots to talk about even if no new folks can enter the conversation. Apparently I'm wrong.
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well Hi there,
I went shopping today and to 3 other stores. I was in a hurry to get it all done and get home.
My jacket zipper wouldn't work so I stapled the bottom 4 inches so that my speeding along the sidewalk wouldn't have it blowing back on both sides, slowing me down--not aerodynamic and my breasts shrivel up. (Paid $87.00 for the jacket and the zipper has the 'strips' on the wrong side....the 'puller' is on the right...never used it much...pink.....cuffs get dirty from wheels....I usually look for shades of gray...in particular the shade of our clay.
In one store I saw a guy who kind of looked like an actor in "The Orchid's ____?" movie so I asked him if he was a movie actor.
HO BOY!
He started to talk and went on and on and on to me and to the clerk and I was really sorry I had asked as I didn't have time for that and right in the middle of his first pause, I asked the clerk something and everything slowed down and finally he was gone!
I went on to the bookstore, the the bank , then the grocery store. My list read, Produce, Meat, not my usual way so looked awfully short, so I took just 2 of my canvas bags, and bought 2 loaves of bread..... I needed 3 plastic bags on top of that, $105.79
I asked the clerk for 2 pk cigs, Du Maurier King size, and she went across the aisle with the keys to the blacked out cupboard, then asked me from there
Was it Du Maurier?
Yes.
Regular or King?
King........2,,,, ok ?
She changed cupboards and came back with a carton. I had to send her back. Then she asked for help packing and it was a gal from my apartment building, now ex, as her mother died.... she was really good and now I am back and my 'fridge looks full
I washed out 2-2 Qt. juice cartons --5Alive and Orange juice and they are on the top shelf and it makes my 'fridge look fuller and healthy-- :lol: :lol:
So you see we can talk about other things too? Just to let everyone know that all is well and life is just as crazy as we make it!...and if no one answers then we know we really ARE crazy
Love
Izzy
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No BC
....and haven't had the news on.
I am so sorry. will check but he must have been young. How terribly sad!
xx
Izzy
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Hey CB,
I share you concern, your sadness, for the friend who lost his life and your son's broken heart. I am too going through this right now with my own son.
His friend was murdered. He was shot on Sat night and removed from life support on Sunday night. My son is taking it very hard.
His friend had his own tragedy when 17. Something very traumatic to him.. Life changing..and now...he's gone...same way....his mother was murdered when he was on the phone with the police by his father...
His death at 22.. was trying to save another ( over a girl ) ...stepping in....and his life taken.
I am sorry for your son's friend...I am sorry for the pain your son is dealing with....
Love
Deb
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I feel really lonely here these days. Things used to move so fast. I've been looking for other forums and have found a couple but they are so different. First of all I love the software used here. It is the easiest to navigate that I have ever come across. But the other thing is that people really get to know each other here and that is different from other forums that I have found.
One of the things that I used to love about this place is that I could come on in the evening and there would be a bunch of people posting. I could post something and find 3 or 4 people posting at the same time. At times it was more like a conversation than HOURS between posts. It felt like a community. That was really nice - especially for someone like me who does not have people to call on the phone or to get together with and talk. Very lonely.
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I agree that here I have found the kindest and most helpful group here. Maybe my pulling away is because I feel the group will disband and I am trying to fade out before I am forced to. I am not sure.
I am also very busy in 3D (maybe too busy).
CB and Deb, I am sorry for your children's losses. That must be so difficult. It is so hard to take when a young person dies, no matter what the cause.
I do care deeply for so many people here. Sometimes I feel I am simply a drain with my recurring issues. I think that is why I felt more compfortable, too, with newcomers joining - at least I felt I was reaching out to someone and affecting someone's life in a positive way.
Izzy, because I do like people here, I am interested in the day-to-day dealings of their lives.
((((((((Everyone))))))))))
Love, Beth
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When I posted my last post about this place I had not read about Debkor and CB's children's losses. I feel embarrassed. Those are such tragic experiences. When I see my post in context of what you both wrote I see such extreme callousness but I want you to know that I actually had not seen them.
My heart breaks for all concerned. There is so much tragedy in this world. I went to a funeral of a man who I met through his "now" wife when we were all in college. He took his own life Friday at his home when two of his children were there.
Just too much tragedy to comprehend. My thoughts are with you both while you support and tend to your children at this terrible time of loss.
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Izzy.... I believe you could put a heavy duty power cord behind your china cabinet, easily accessed from one side..i.. raised to a comfortable height.... no need to get rid of the cabinet?
I may be wrong but..... that's the way I have to do things where I am now.
As for not having space for the power chair.....
so you have to get rid of one easy chair (you prolly don't use.)
Eh..... your shoulder's are worth far more than a chair.
It's just a consideration (your doc thinks is necessary.)
CB and Deb..... sorry to hear about the pain and loss your children are experiencing.
Light
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I feel badly for those who are anxious over the board's waxing and waning...
I too am getting more engaged in m 3D life, and sometimes just can't summon the focus to say all I'd like to.
For what it's worth, I do love y'all and I know that there will be a way to stay in touch.
Since my life in 3-D is going so much faster right now, on so many planes, I can't participate as much as I used to.
But my affection and gratitude are as strong as ever.
I promise not to vanish without warning, and just for me...next August seems like a good long stretch of time away.
love to all,
Hops
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Hi lighter
My Dr. said I didn't need a power chair if I didn't want one.
I will get one when I am ready and it feels right and necessary.
I will also go by an examination (x-rays, whatever) and not just because someone says so. If she told me to buy combat boots I wouldn't: or a hemet, or elbow pads or an Uzi.
I'll get ALL of them when I need too.
Thanks for thinking of me.
Love
Izzy
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Hmmmm.... I thought I read something about your shoulders being the reason for the chair?
Maybe not.
For a second there..... I thought you were looking for reasons to NOT get something your doc said you needed.
Sorry.
Lighter
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S'ok lighter
The occupational, not physical, therapist TOLD me that my shoulders would give out before I do.
Now that is not proof enough for me to lay out over $6,000.00 when I have had no shoulder problems (the muscles sometimes tire from putting the chair into the car from a seated position, too many times in one day).... no bone/socket problems.
So I asked my doctor, as I said I didn't feel right just taking her word, with no examinations etc.; so no power chair yet.
It's one of those times I felt I was being 'pushed'....unnecessarily, as though she receives a commission on sales of chairs.
details, details, some times I say too much and sometimed not enough...........
Love
Izzy
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::SIGH:: I guess you'd have to get a vehicle that could cart a power chair....
and a lift for it, too?
Lots to think about, for sure.
Lighter
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Yep
I've thought about a van with a sliding door on the driver's side (was shown one when I bought this car) as I could open the sliding door, insert wheelchair, while standing...........oh it was loverly........but then I thought I would have to adopt 10 children to fill up the rest of the back.
Even if I need a power chair, on down the road, I can still use a folding one for when I take the car, but I'm not sure I will buy a new car, when this 19 year old one gives out! (I think 2-door cars are hard to find.)
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Hey Izzy,
The occupational, not physical, therapist TOLD me that my shoulders would give out before I do.
Who died and made this therapist all knowing predicter of your future physical events?
Reminds me of someone I know who was down with an M.S. attack. She asked the "therapist" visiting her home to help her try using the cane, when she was just emerging from bedrest and starting to feel like moving around again....... and the response she received was:
"I don't know what you want to bother for. You're going to end up in a wheel chair anyway."
:shock: :shock: :shock: :x
The "therapist" was told to "f off and get out and never come back!!!"
The lady with M.S. went into remission, regained most of her function and walks, does Tai Chi, even dances now without assistance.
Not sure what happened to that "therapist". She should have been fired, if you ask me.
Sela
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Thanks Sela
That was a good one, and a therapist can do much, as the ones in my Rehab did to get me stronger and up and ambulating on crutches, although I didn't 'walk' out of the hospital.
More and more strength came to me as time passed and I kept using the crutches. Let's say 2 years altogether to become comfortable on them.
At this point NOW, I am back to about where I was when I entered Rehab at age 30, gym twice a day, arm exercises twice a day. break for lunch, break for dinner....................................I swear to the Heavens above, I cannot do that now at 69, until I am 71, then fall and break a hip and end up in the w/c for the rest of my life. It's time to be old............but it is not time for me to be lazy. IMAGINE!
but talking about awful responses, another gal patient, married, 2 boys, broken neck, so a quadraplegic and had quite some difficulty with her hands.
It was Tuesday and her husband and her boys were coming, so she was fixing up, without the usual help from a nurse, as the nurse on duty said,
"Why bother. Who would look at you anyway?"
So I helped her with her hair and a bow and straightened her blouse and those damned bell bottoms, in style then, just flopped for us in chairs, but I fixed hers as best I could, checked her nails and tidied her lipstick. The nurse came through and gave me a dirty look.
No matter where you look, you will not find 2 people exactly the same, and I remember telling the nurses that their chart on the wall did not fit me.
xx
Izzy
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I miss seeing MUD
Jeez, I must have one of those web cam thingies and didn't know it. :P
I still read and check for PMs. Just not much to say, plus this month is very busy preparing for trial about property rights with bro. Have an anvil of a surprise to drop on his head at trial. Looking forward to his Wile E. Coyote moment.
mud
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Mud, do pm...I'd like to know the weight of that anvil.
Kudos.
And boy am I glad you're still here.
Hops
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I'm sending you wishes for peace and closure, Mud.
::picturing Izz with 10 mini Mackenzie brothers, loaded into a van::
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Hi everyone,
I just got to thinking about how young the Internet is. Not even twenty years old yet? It would be hard to determine all the variables that brought the board to this point because the Internet, as we know it, has been in existence for such a short time. For sure Dr. G was a forward thinker and we who have participated on the board have in a small way been history makers. Over these almost ten years the board has been in exixtence, the Internet has gone from being a small source of information to being a virtual wall of information and that is no doubt an important variable.
I agree with you CB that we shouldn't sound the death knell because Dr. G said he was thinking about whether he should or shouldn't close it.
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