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Title: The Pain! I need help
Post by: Izzy_*now* on April 20, 2009, 10:41:41 AM
This is just a tad away from unbearable. 22 days post-op and the pain will not allow me to sleep

I'm researching pain meds ans T3/codeine is what I had, 60 tablets prescribed and used. (acetaminophen in that too.)
Too much acetominaphen, like over 5 days? is dangerous?

I sleep in shifts, about 3 x 2 hour ones and sitting is more bearable than lying down,

I feel sick
Title: Re: The Pain! I need help
Post by: lighter on April 20, 2009, 10:57:53 AM
Izzy...... I'm so sorry to hear things are dragging on, so painfully, without relief.

Maybe the doctor could prescribe something that's longer lasting?

12 hour release oxicontin or a different medication that more specifically helps your pain?

There are pain management specialists you can contact?

You shouldn't have to suffer like this, Izz.

It's harder to heal and function when you're up all night in agony, unable to sleep..... that's when the body repairs itself.
Title: Re: The Pain! I need help
Post by: Izzy_*now* on April 20, 2009, 11:25:04 AM
My OT is in Pain Management, I left a message.

Acetaminophen causes three times as many cases of liver failure as all other drugs combined

This is scary: will check if Canada carries it!

What is OxyContin?
OxyContin (“Oxy” or “OC” on the street) is a time-released pain medication. It was developed in 1995 for people needing around-the-clock pain relief, so they don’t have to take pills as often. OxyContin contains oxycodone, which is an opioid drug, like morphine, codeine, heroin and methadone.

Oxycodone is the same opioid that’s in Percocet, Oxycocet and Endocet.

What’s the difference between Percocet and OxyContin?
Both Percocet and OxyContin relieve pain, but while Percocet gives relief for about five hours, the effects of OxyContin last for about 12 hours.
Title: Re: The Pain! I need help
Post by: lighter on April 20, 2009, 01:06:53 PM
I hope your OT cares and is motivated to help you.

It's barbaric to leave you in such much pain.
Title: Re: The Pain! I need help
Post by: debkor on April 20, 2009, 03:28:08 PM
Hey Iz,

OxyContin has no Acetaminophen in it.  It is also substained (time released).  OxyCodone is pretty much like Percocet also with Acetaminophen.

I think if I am correct that is how it goes.

I wish you could get some comfort. You need to be able to get a full nights rest for healing.

I'm so sorry Izzy.

Love
Deb
Title: Re: The Pain! I need help
Post by: debkor on April 20, 2009, 03:43:20 PM
Hi Iz,

I also found out that that Oxycotin should really only be given out for Cancer Patients and Severe Back (surgery). 
Title: Re: The Pain! I need help
Post by: Izzy_*now* on April 20, 2009, 04:11:35 PM
My Internet has been down, but Michele called this a.m., will be here sometime today, asked me if I bled overnight and I had that thigh hip in the air, laying on my right side. I saw what looked like the shape of a rod trying to poke through. The Ortho Surgeon has left something inside my leg! Let's all say malpractice?

Gad For all I've read online, my case was not healing as the other online strangers. Michele is out looking for him, my lawyer comes today. Mary Jo came and took the leg lifter from the loaner wheelchair and left the regular footrest.

I've been feeling 'sick' like only food that tastes good is Oranges--big juicy seedless ones. Michele is also after more T3s--I thought the first 60 was the limit, but here I am in as much pain as before.

I tend to believe that relief is in sight!

Oh, when things like this arise, is just SO helps to have someone to talk to.

Love all
Izzy
Title: Re: The Pain! I need help
Post by: lighter on April 20, 2009, 04:41:14 PM
Deb.... why would oxycontin be prescribed for cancer related and spinal injury pain, only?

Is it prescribed for bone cancer as well as other types?

I know I've seen it prescribed for knee surgery and c-sections, as well as cancer pain management.

Mo2


Title: Re: The Pain! I need help
Post by: Lupita on April 20, 2009, 06:26:06 PM
Lightning is not supposed to hit the same place twice.
I am so sorry for your pain!
If there was something I could do to help you, I would.
Will pray for God to give you the strenght to endure your difficult situation, and send all the help that you need.
Love you.
Title: Re: The Pain! I need help
Post by: debkor on April 20, 2009, 08:26:17 PM
Mof2 and Iz,

Oxycontin is sustained-release oxycodone. This means it is time released to help treat the pain for a longer period of time.  It is powerfully addictive. It was a high mg of sr oxycodone.  For example, percocet is only 5 mg oxycodone, 325 mg of acetaminophen. That would be one strength. It really is up to the md your seeing and the severity of the pain.  There are many other pain alternatives before using Oxycontin. It is usually recommended when needed for around-the-clock pain for an extended period of time, not usually for the use of pain if not being used for an extended period of time. It isnt only used for cancer releated and spine injuries, but that is most commonly what it is used for. Honestly, I would speak to your md if your still in pain because when your in pain, your in pain. And most certaintly share your concerns about the acetaminophen and the effects to your liver. Always feel free to alsk your md questions,thats what hes there for! :) Feel better!

That is the information that was passed on to me when I asked about Oxycontin. 

Love
Deb



Title: Re: The Pain! I need help
Post by: Izzy_*now* on April 20, 2009, 08:50:07 PM
thanks Lupita, Mo2
and Deb

No one saw this?
The Ortho Surgeon has left something inside my leg! Let's all say malpractice?

and I have my T3s Tylenol/codeine. The first Rx said no refills so I expected none, but different doctor and I have them.

My lawyer stopped in to meet me and we got along fine. He says I am charismatic and charming to be with---while I grab my knee and howl at the pain. It's in his hands now!

Without being crude, he "loves" the woman in a wheelchair is struck, putting her in a wheelchair irony. Me too!

Love
Iz

Title: Re: The Pain! I need help
Post by: teartracks on April 20, 2009, 09:52:19 PM



Dearest Iz,

I am so very sorry for the pain you're experiencing.  If it's any consolation, my mom took Darvocet for years and she lived to be 88 1/2.  She never abused it and usually 2 of the big pink pills kept her going for 24 hours.  Different people probably have different tolerances for the ingredients, but she did fine.

I'm late posting because at first, I read the subject of your thread as, 'The paint, I need help'.  I don't know much about painting, so I didn't post.

Unrelenting body pain is such a drag and just pulls you down in every way.  I hope that by the time you read this, you have found relief.   

Much love,
tt
Title: Re: The Pain! I need help
Post by: lighter on April 21, 2009, 09:46:57 AM
It sounds like you're on your way to more surgery, Izz.

So sorry but I pray everything starts healing very soon.

Mo2
Title: Re: The Pain! I need help
Post by: sKePTiKal on April 21, 2009, 09:59:29 AM
Izzy, help me out here...

are you saying it looks like a pin or steel rod used to stabilize your leg is trying to poke through the skin???! That might be more likely than they left something behind... I wonder if something came loose?

Can you get in to see your MD or surgeon about this? Once you get some pain relief and sleep?
Title: Re: The Pain! I need help
Post by: seasons on April 21, 2009, 12:56:03 PM

Sorry Izzy for all your going through.

I can't believe the surgeon left something in your leg!!! Unbelievable, how much can one person be put through?

Sending thoughts of pain relief and answers for your returned health.    seasons ox
Title: Re: The Pain! I need help
Post by: debkor on April 21, 2009, 02:15:22 PM
Hey Iz,

Quote
The Ortho Surgeon has left something inside my leg!

What!!!   ^&(^%$%&%%*&%+_@@$#@#

You need to see your Dr. ASAP.

Did you get any rest last night at all? 

Love
Deb
Title: Re: The Pain! I need help
Post by: Izzy_*now* on April 21, 2009, 02:40:38 PM
thanks tt, Mo2 PR, Deb and seasons

I am almost but not quite as filled with pain as the beginnning. This object is likely the answer.

That one incision has been seeping for a week. With dressing changes finally something was trying to surface and felt hard to the nurse. now to find out what, but I hope it isn't an N. (I have bloodied up every sheet and towel, but for my very good ones.) (Christine comes today to clean, launder, shop.)

She is trying hard to reach MY surgeon and hopes today, for an X-ray and then.........the healing will begin! Should have been more like 2 weeks, not going on 4.

Store brought a trapeze but I tend to think it will be more in my way. Therapists are not always right.(The leg elevator on the chair didn't suit my long leg--not built for me.)

Funny the little things that can irritate me, They all know how to flip a switch UP, but not down. I'm always turning off lights.
Michelle changed cover on my chair cushion, did it backwards and ripped the zipper out of place. I figured out too late, when my wheel kept clanging on this "unknown object". Also built the dressing so high that I need a matching height on other side. Used a folding towel and puts the plastic pads on--must tucked or the annoyingly rub on wheels, clackety-clack, like cards on a bicycle wheel. All minor issues compared to the good and the reassurance they give me, but my nerves are taut~

I tremble, head, shoulders, arms hands, and don't know why. Over-exertion can be one, but when being still for2 hours, still feel it --even in my jaw.

{Before injury, I sent 2 of my songs back to Ontario for Barry to demo for me. He was trying to contact me and no answer, like after 4 calls, so found my landlady and then I called him when I was released from hospital. She let it slip the other day that he and Sue are going to be here on the 26th, as their eldest son lives here now! It was supposed to be a surprise, and I was wondering why he set aside his others to do mine....now I know hand-delivered.)

So sleepy. must lie down. I try to not, so can sleep at night. Never make it!

xx (((((((((((((((((ALLLLLLLLLLL)

Izzy

That incision in pic.
Title: Re: The Pain! I need help
Post by: sKePTiKal on April 21, 2009, 02:54:11 PM
Ah, Iz.... (((((((((((((((IZZY))))))))))))))))))

You probably need so much sleep and peace from the pain, it doesn't really matter WHEN you sleep just yet. I hope you get an x-ray soon, and the incision looked at properly. The trembling could just be your body reacting to the pain and lack of sleep... it sure wouldn't surprise me if it was!! After all you've been through.

Yes, little things are going to bother you a lot more right now... and each one builds a mountain out of molehills. When you don't feel good you just aren't as tolerant of those little things - and YOU DON'T FEEL GOOD.

Wish I could wrap you in soft clouds - just the right temperature, support & touch - so you could feel "ahhhhhhh.... that's more like it!"

You've got someone coming in every day, right? You might have to insist on getting to the doctor, just as soon as you can and have the strength. I think it's important to get an x-ray and find out what's going on with that incision!!
Title: Re: The Pain! I need help
Post by: lighter on April 21, 2009, 05:34:26 PM
I think your body' still waiting for proper medical attention, Izz.

You're probably experiencing a little bit of shock.

Title: Re: The Pain! I need help
Post by: Izzy_*now* on April 21, 2009, 06:52:46 PM
I mentioned the involuntary tremors (12 separate sessions) I had at the scene and on into Emerg. I looked it up and that is PTSD immediately after a physical trauma. The latest to the trauma is--What is in my leg?

I forewarned Christine today and I barked at her  # if times, totally cranky, because of blonde things.

I have a green garbage bag sitting out of the way. As the smaller waste baskets fill and just dry stuff I empty in, whereas with hospital crap and kitchen garbage I tie up their bags and put in the green one. I showed this to her last week.

Today she took all the separate bags out of the green bag to take downstairs!--standing there looking blonde with 6 smaller garbage bags---sure it's ok---I just make one trip with one big green one. I nearly hit the roof over that, but it wasn't necessary.
Her notes on today began with, "Izzy was quite shaky today and distressed....(I gave her the 'distressed' word, as opposed to 'foaming mad")
Title: Re: The Pain! I need help
Post by: Izzy_*now* on April 21, 2009, 07:43:53 PM
'We Care' are right on the ball. Christine must have called them, so I was called asking how I am, told the truth, and arrangements were made to take me to Emergeny tomorrow morning, as the Ortho surgeon is just not available. Mary Jo will meet me there.

The red tape!!

And guess what---the trembling settled right down.....so we have IZZY again not knowing what's what....like she was more distressed than she thought.
Title: Re: The Pain! I need help
Post by: Hopalong on April 21, 2009, 09:09:20 PM
I wish you didn't have to wait until morning, Izz...

but if you can sleep, so be it.

love and comfort,

Hops
Title: Re: The Pain! I need help
Post by: Ami on April 21, 2009, 11:14:08 PM
Sending thoughts of peace to you Izzy. I am so sorry you have to endure this nightmare. I hope you rest tonight, Izzy.      Ami
Title: Re: The Pain! I need help
Post by: Izzy_*now* on April 22, 2009, 12:56:43 AM
hi all

I have a taxi coming in the morning to take me to emergency.  Mary Jo will meet me there. I didn’t do anything over the heads of the people caring for me, and they are keeping on top of it. I am not in there tonight because it would be crowded and at some point I could be sent home, advises one lady. The word is out amongst them all in their different divisions.

I have an upset tummy feeling, don’t want to look at food in case it’s from the hospital, but struggle through and mine is acceptable.

Going to bed to read was one of my most favourite times: snuggling in with a good book and read and read. Now the thought of bed means pain and no sleep. I now have a trapeze for ease in sitting up.

The shakes have settled down. All I don’t look forward to is tonight and sleep, but will test it now.

I really hope the x-rays show what is wrong, and my Dr. had no way of knowing when he just opened up 1cm of the incision to drain in his office. My foot is rock hard with swelling and (came later) the outside of that leg has a large patch filled with what looks like clear fluid.

I’ll be back in touch
Izzy
Title: Re: The Pain! I need help
Post by: Hopalong on April 22, 2009, 10:31:30 AM
I hope you'll refuse to leave the hosp. until you've had a profound round of treatment.

Your pain is intolerable and YOU SHOULDN'T HAVE TO TOLERATE IT.

Love and relief to you, Izz,

Hops

(I'm projecting indignation today, must be in the anger stage of grief, sorry...)
Title: Re: The Pain! I need help
Post by: lighter on April 22, 2009, 12:29:51 PM
I'm waiting for you to get in front of a competent doctor, Izz.

It sounds like there's at least one major problem.

::trying to be patient and calm::

Honestly...... this just isn't acceptable care.

 

Title: Re: The Pain! I need help
Post by: lighter on April 23, 2009, 11:05:24 AM
I'm thinking of you, Izz....

wishing you're seeing a good doctor right now.

Mo2
Title: Re: The Pain! I need help
Post by: lighter on April 24, 2009, 01:37:35 PM
::whispering::

How'ya doing, Izzy?

Title: Re: The Pain! I need help
Post by: lighter on April 25, 2009, 11:13:25 AM
If Izz had to have surgery, which is likely IMO.....

I hope they only had to remove something, left behind, from first surgery.

That the bone broke again, would be too awful.

It disturbs me badly when people,

who should listen,

don't.

When Izz complains, something's dread wrong.

She deserved better from her health care professionals.

::shaking head::

OK....

::taking deep breath::

 I'll hope for the best.

Mo2
Title: Re: The Pain! I need help
Post by: teartracks on April 25, 2009, 09:16:31 PM


Hi Iz,

Dang it, I hate it that you're having to endure all this.

You're deeply in my thoughts and prayers.

Have been on the road again, no laptop so was 'off' for a few days.

Much love to you special one.

tt

Title: Re: The Pain! I need help
Post by: seasons on April 26, 2009, 10:35:04 PM

Thinking of you (Izzy). Hoping you are receiving relief from your pain and in the best care possible!

 With concern and love, seasons
Title: Re: The Pain! I need help
Post by: sKePTiKal on April 27, 2009, 01:19:09 PM
Izzy:

I sure HOPE that this time, the docs listen and you get an extra large helping of TLC!!!!! Like M02, I fear your silence means that you are once again at the mercy of these "medical professionals". Surely, you've scared them into correcting the problem by now and are recovering while waited on hand & foot!  :D

You know how I feel about the medical profession... my blood pressure goes up just thinking about it!! If ONLY they learned in school, that we are PEOPLE with feelings and we KNOW our bodies better than they do... instead of thinking of us as specimens, presenting X number of symptoms... SIGH. Their remedies really aren't one size fits all... and they need to listen more than they prescribe.

I hope you're on the mend now and that we'll get the play by play - and good prognosis for a complete recovery -  very shortly.
Title: Re: The Pain! I need help
Post by: lighter on April 28, 2009, 04:54:16 AM
You went into the emergency room on the 22nd, Izz.

It's the 28th.

It's been one week, today.

I hope you're recovering and receiving the best possible care, ((Izzy)).

::sending healing thoughts your way::

Mo2
Title: Re: The Pain! I need help
Post by: teartracks on April 28, 2009, 10:27:26 AM



Hi Iz,

Missing your good company here  and sending lots of love to you.

tt

Title: Re: The Pain! I need help
Post by: lighter on April 28, 2009, 10:39:33 AM
I hope you're recovering, Izz.....

not dealing with more complications of treatment.

We're here, missing you......

with every hope you're out of pain.

Mo2






Title: Re: The Pain! I need help
Post by: debkor on April 28, 2009, 01:02:54 PM
Izzy,

Missing you.  Hope you are out of pain.  Can't wait till you get back.

Love
Deb
Title: Re: The Pain. I need help
Post by: Izzy_*now* on April 28, 2009, 08:57:08 PM
hi all and thank you for thinking of me.

Last wed a.m. into Emergency, the same Ortho Surg removed all the hardware and rest reset all the bones.

This case was a meeting of the Ortho Surg'n's ,minds with no answers to go on. From what little I garbled out, no pan in lower leg, yet pain in upper leg does not mean bone density is the same.  Who is to know? They tried and it failed, so all the hardware came out and a regular bone setting made.

The week on IV antibiotics and home.

Most people are nice but karma exists. I know. Sheena was a bossy little bi*ch. She tried to give me laxatives one night. Uh Uh! Not BEFORE bedtime I said so and she said to do as I was told, so I did. ....and so I did. Sheena had to healp clean me up and time is of the essence when I hit the buzzer. She and her co-nurse set to work and I said I don't know when I'm finished but if I say PAD! Then grab one, She wasn't listening, barking out orders to the other and I tried to used the words, "It's Time" and she just ignored me so Blam! She got it in the face. (Hospitals don't give much time to finish what you started, before they have to have their say.

I hope she always wonders if I did that on purpose or if "time is of the essence " is best to follow.

I have daily dressings at home now
....for a few days anyway ...then will pray that the anitbiotics have taken hold.

and it's the 28th of April

HB to IZ
Title: Re: The Pain! I need help
Post by: teartracks on April 28, 2009, 11:46:35 PM
Hi Iz,

Happy Birthday to you. 

So glad you're home and feeling better.

Love you,

tt
Title: Re: The Pain! I need help
Post by: lighter on April 29, 2009, 11:14:04 AM
Thank God you're home, Izz.

I was so worried.

When you're feeling stronger..... come back and share more.

About the bully nurse......

I think health care professionals, who make not listening a habit, are very common.

It makes me sad.  At least she experienced a negative consequence.

Perhaps she'll stop to think, when a patient speaks, in the future?

Mo2





Title: Re: The Pain! I need help
Post by: sKePTiKal on April 29, 2009, 12:02:38 PM
I know my relief that you're home pales in comparison to your, Iz... nevertheless...

I'm happy you're back in your own digs with your own care and you're back in charge. Rest up, get well, and we can trash the bedside manner (or lack thereof) of medical professionals later!   8)
Title: Re: The Pain! I need help
Post by: seasons on April 29, 2009, 07:00:37 PM
Izzy,

Wonderful news to hear your back home.

Wishes of good health to you as soon as possible. seasons ox