Voicelessness and Emotional Survival Message Board
Voicelessness and Emotional Survival => Voicelessness and Emotional Survival Message Board => Topic started by: JustKathy on August 05, 2009, 10:48:35 PM
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For those of you who haven't heard this, well, it's mind blowing, sad, downright tragic. These are phone conversations from 1990 that one of MJ's friends just released. In these conversations he talks openly about his father's narcissism, and the tremendous amount of control Joseph had over him. In one tape, he talks about how his father used to make fun of his weight, and Michael says, "eating was the ONLY thing I had control over." He talks about how his every move, every word, was dictated my Joe. He talks about being locked in the basement for hitting the wrong note. And really disgusting, says that when they were on tour, he could hear his father having sex with young girls in the next room, and that he never had the heart to tell his mother.
I don't know why this friend released these tapes now, when she could have done so years ago to make a buck. My guess is that she did it to help Michael, and let the world hear, in his own voice, just how tormented he was. That yes, his father DID abuse him, badly. You can hear the pain in Michael's voice. It's so very sad, yet something I think we can all relate to.
http://www.ktla.com/news/landing/ktla-jackson-calls,0,4741707.story
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Dear Kathy
Michael went down so badly and of course he would. When I heard of his death, I thought of my Enlightened Witness. Someone in this world sees me.
Someone gets me. I am not a stranger in this world ,wandering alone, speaking a different language from everyone else. Someone speaks my language.
If Michael had one person to see him, I don't think he would have had to die.
You can have everything and I had most material things but no one to see me and I was dying.
Being mirrored and seen is what you don't get with an NM.
You are a ghost in life while other people have forms.
I think it will kill you one way or another, even from a broken heart.
My Enlightened Witness was a gift from God , from God's pure love. Ami
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If Michael had one person to see him, I don't think he would have had to die.
Yeah. He apparently confided his pain to his friends, but never got the help he really needed. When you're dealing with narcissism, friends can offer sympathy, but they don't truly "get it." I'm guessing that his eccentric lifestyle was a way of playing make-believe, and pretending the pain wasn't there. High-priced denial. He was clearly crying for help, and the help never came. Like you said, it probably would have only taken ONE person to reach him, but that person never came.
Kathy
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I always told people about my life but it never helped me to see myself in a way that I could start to feel like I was worth something. I am just beginning to feel this way.
It takes s/one who really gets it ,not just says that they do. There is a big difference. Also, the person has got to be strong enough to give to you without losing themselves.
They have to have a good maturity and self awareness.
So, with each characteristic, more people are eliminated until there are very few. Ami