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Title: Just began reading PLAN B...
Post by: lighter on September 18, 2010, 10:22:53 PM
Further  thoughts on faith
by Anne Lamott


I'm really enjoying it so far.



Lighter
Title: Re: Just began reading PLAN B...
Post by: lighter on September 19, 2010, 10:32:11 PM
I want to also say, I believe this book would be appreciated by my friends on this board.

Really.

Lighter: )
Title: Re: Just began reading PLAN B...
Post by: lighter on September 21, 2010, 05:39:46 PM
Guest:

I doubt you'd find this book one you'd put down without finishing.

At least, that's what I'd like to believe.

As I read it, I see different aspects of friends I've grown attached to here on this board.

I'm amused by the author's candid views, and......

if people don't have an opinion, isn't it too boring?

Lighter

Title: Re: Just began reading PLAN B...
Post by: mudpuppy on September 23, 2010, 11:20:14 PM
I'm afraid I prefer Plan 9 From Outer Space myself.

mud
Title: Re: Just began reading PLAN B...
Post by: mudpuppy on September 24, 2010, 07:45:44 PM
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Mud, I've seen it, hilarious film  . Saw it years ago, you reminded me of it, thanks!

Whew, was hoping I wasn't the only one who enjoyed Vampira and a decrepit Bela Lugosi vamping around amidst wobbling frisbees dangling from strings and kick ass zombies.

mud
Title: Re: Just began reading PLAN B...
Post by: lighter on September 25, 2010, 02:01:06 AM
Is this movie appropriate for 8 and 10 year olds?

Mo2
Title: Re: Just began reading PLAN B...
Post by: mudpuppy on September 25, 2010, 10:43:30 AM
I wouldn't let mine watch it. It's pretty creepy.
 And it's only hilarious because it is so incredibly bad; it's not intentionally funny.

mud
Title: Re: Just began reading PLAN B...
Post by: sKePTiKal on September 26, 2010, 07:59:36 AM
Speaking of zombies...

what do y'all think about the latest trend among the younger folk (gen X, Y & Z) that assumes we are on the short path to armegeddan? As in some kind of Mad Max or The Road post-apocalyptic, post-climate crisis, post-civilization scenario?? My kids seem to be hedging their bets about this - but the past couple of issues of Wired magazine have even discussed this (some tongue in cheek - but obviously with fingers crossed).

I keep wondering if they're REALLY worried, or if this is a generational "anxiety" (like nuclear war was for those us born in the 40s & 50s) that they're diffusing through absurdity... or something else, again.
Title: Re: Just began reading PLAN B...
Post by: lighter on September 26, 2010, 09:34:13 PM
Lighter, it has arrived! I shall start reading this week.

Enjoy, Guest: )

Lighter
Title: Re: Just began reading PLAN B...
Post by: Hopalong on September 28, 2010, 04:37:42 PM
have to confess 2 bleak thoughts:

I have tired of Annie Lamott. I think it's ... I don't know. Just doesn't move me any more. I feel yelled at in some subtle way when I read her. I think I've started to sour on religion in general.

I do think we're desperately close to environmental disaster and the kids are right, and the older generation (including me) is exhausted or in denial--it's just too hard to contemplate but they're still bold.

I hope they take to the streets. I'm feeling guilty that I didn't go the Appalachia Rising yesterday because my back hurt.

:(

Hops
Title: Re: Just began reading PLAN B...
Post by: lighter on September 29, 2010, 10:11:54 AM
I just finished the book and I'm still happy with it.

Short.

Interesting.

The right book at the right time for me.

Everything is falling into place.

I have a new home, a new dog, a new school in a new State.with a choice of 2 new churches I really love.

It's been an amazing 4 days.

Lighter/Mo2
Title: Re: Just began reading PLAN B...
Post by: Hopalong on October 02, 2010, 11:33:05 AM
thanks, Guest...
your writing that made me see how stupid it is.

I'm doing a lot locally against MTR...active. So it's okay to be me, back and all.

thank you,
Hops
Title: Re: Just began reading PLAN B...
Post by: lighter on October 07, 2010, 05:27:06 PM
Sorry your backs hurting, Hops.

Mine went out this morning while dumping the stupid humidifiyer...... and lifting furniture all day yesterday didn't bother it a bit.  Go figure.

What I esp liked about the book was the author's struggles with her mother and son, and how she processed them. 

That's what reminded me of this board. 

Not her beliefs or her leanings, which have nothing to do with my own.

Lighter



Title: Re: Just began reading PLAN B...
Post by: Hopalong on October 08, 2010, 09:19:32 AM
Well who knows why I got cranky about Annie L...I'm probably jealous.
Yup. Envy. Nice, Hops.

I'll keep an open mind and read it again sometimes.

And
dehumidifier
emptying
is
nassssssssssty
for
backs

Hope yours is better fast!

Hops
Title: Re: Just began reading PLAN B...
Post by: lighter on October 08, 2010, 03:40:17 PM
I'm going to put the dehumidifyer on something higher, Hops.

The darn thing was completely filled this morning, so I'll be in there every day or 2.

I have a new dog!  His name is Odin, and he's sleeping on my feet right now: )

Lighter
Title: Re: Just began reading PLAN B...
Post by: Hopalong on October 11, 2010, 12:39:52 PM
Hi Guest,
Sticking nose in...

I recall a whole lot of energized Letters at www.salon.com (http://www.salon.com) when Annie L. used to write there about her son Sam. There were many people who felt that she was massively proprietary and squickily enmeshed with him and that she repeatedly invaded his privacy...

Something not-wholesome about her way of enacting her emotional stuff through him and sharing it with millions...

(As though I should talk. But I remember that.)

Hops
Title: Re: Just began reading PLAN B...
Post by: lighter on October 12, 2010, 12:59:19 PM
Guest:

I thought the entire meeting between her son and his half brother was causing Annie a lot of anxiety.

That the sb might show up looking just like her son, talking acting etc seemed to be a fear she had.

I thought of her anxiety as "her anxiety."   

Had it been me, it would have been "my anxiety",manufactured by my own history of fears and demons, driving me to the paper bag (or Mellow Mushroom Pizza, in my case.)

What I like about her is that she just says what she's feeling...... even if it's not the healthiest/best/maternal/adjusted thought or response.

I know I have thoughts that aren't always what I'd like them to be.

We're human.

We struggle.

Annie puts hers on paper, and is brave enough to claim them. (I'm not.)

Hops:  This is the first book I've read of Annie's.  In this one she's obviously been cautioned by her son not to repeat certain things he's chosen to keep private.

That speaks to her crossing boundaries in the past, but I don't see that she's deeply enmeshed in this particular book.

That her son has learned to set boundaries may be a result of Annie crossing them...... the ying and the yang of a deeply enmeshed mama? 

Lighter

Title: Re: Just began reading PLAN B...
Post by: debkor on October 12, 2010, 05:30:34 PM
Hi Guest,

I don't know the book but I thought from reading here (anxiety) and wonder if the anxiety (the paper bag) upon meeting half sibling brought up some abandonment issues (for her) with the S's F.   

Love
Deb