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Voicelessness and Emotional Survival => Voicelessness and Emotional Survival Message Board => Topic started by: lighter on October 20, 2011, 11:56:05 AM

Title: http://responsibility-project.libertymutual.com/blog/returning-adopted-kids-unth
Post by: lighter on October 20, 2011, 11:56:05 AM
What are your thoughts on returning severely PD adopted children?

I think the State should provide accurate information before adopting children out, and.....

if adoptive parents do give back these children, what then?

Lighter
Title: Re: http://responsibility-project.libertymutual.com/blog/returning-adopted-kids-unth
Post by: Izzy_*now* on October 23, 2011, 12:20:45 PM
http://responsibility-project.libertymutual.com/blog/returning-adopted-kids-unthinkable-#fbid=PnF6haz402z (http://responsibility-project.libertymutual.com/blog/returning-adopted-kids-unthinkable-#fbid=PnF6haz402z)

Is this the page, lighter?

Now I'll read it!

xx
Iz
Title: Re: http://responsibility-project.libertymutual.com/blog/returning-adopted-kids-unth
Post by: Izzy_*now* on October 23, 2011, 12:35:52 PM
Ouch!
That is a tough one, as the title is generalized, but the focus is on one boy, a psychopathic one at that.

I doubt that one year of therapy will have straightened him around and I also wonder how much truth there is coming from both sides.

(My knee-jerk reaction is to give him another chance, not give up on him, but that could be "just what the kid is waiting for!")

I wouldn't want to be in either postion on this decision. Need more info than in the article.

Izzy
Title: Re: http://responsibility-project.libertymutual.com/blog/returning-adopted-kids-unth
Post by: Nonameanymore on October 23, 2011, 12:46:44 PM
Oh my God, the film Omen comes to mind and many other thriller/horror films. I am not making fun, I think that thrillers with kids are the scariest - there should be a reason for this...
My opinion is that if a child can be helped, it should be helped.
Before adopting, don't the kids go through psych evaluation?
Or maybe for the parents to be to make an informed decision, they should be able to take the kid to see a therapist they trust and know?
Title: Re: http://responsibility-project.libertymutual.com/blog/returning-adopted-kids-unth
Post by: Hopalong on October 23, 2011, 08:28:38 PM
I feel that the word "parent" or even the word "child" should not be used as a magical term that imprisons people with abusers.

Devastatingly sad as it is, this child is because of his various mental illnesses, an abuser. Doesn't mean it's his fault, but ordinary folks cannot cope with it. They don't have the tools, and guilting them with the "parent" label and a lot of assumptions is unfair, imo.

I think we bludgeon people with labels and it is wrong to force this family (in fear for their lives if they take him home) to be destroyed. Likewise, the child needs a safe and sheltering therapeutic home, because that's the only kind that will be humane for him.

On the other hand, when Ronald Regan shut down mental institutions and tossed thousands of mental patients into the street (Rx would cover all that) -- the country's never recovered, homelessness first soared (even before the recession). Some of the institutions were just horrible, but we didn't have community care and enough skilled personnel to replace their function.

I believe if we could create caring and competent institutions for the mentally ill --- small-scale and community based whenever possible -- adults AND children with dire mental illness, who are unsafe to their families or themselves, could be cared for.

That would be one of the social changes a humane, compassion-convicted (and rational) culture would do if money weren't spent on large wrong things.

Hops
Title: Re: http://responsibility-project.libertymutual.com/blog/returning-adopted-kids-unth
Post by: lighter on October 24, 2011, 05:45:11 PM
http://responsibility-project.libertymutual.com/blog/returning-adopted-kids-unthinkable-#fbid=PnF6haz402z (http://responsibility-project.libertymutual.com/blog/returning-adopted-kids-unthinkable-#fbid=PnF6haz402z)

Is this the page, lighter?

Now I'll read it!

xx
Iz

Duoh!  Yes, Izz.

That's the page; )

Lighter