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Thanks, Amber.  I think having several hours, away, did her as much good as having her (naughty self care) suspicious validated....celebrated, even.

I'll take her to lunch soon.  The weather is perfect for another outdoor patio meal, and she's looking like she needs a bucking up.

The oil pulling is decidedly a once a day or every two days practice.  Daily, now, with mornings the chosen time.  Will begin melting the solid coconut oil first, as I'm tempted to chew and swallow, like a child.  It's almost like candy, tastes so good.

Lighter
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Voicelessness and Emotional Survival Message Board / Re: Predatory grooming
« Last post by sKePTiKal on August 28, 2025, 08:19:42 AM »
Q stuff IS weird, Meh. I got curious when it started. It seemed like a puzzle, with tantalizing clues... that sucked people in. Then, I just found other things more interesting or important and forgot about it. But it's still going on.

I think it's more like the phenomenon of groupies or "fan adoration"; and I think there's some membership of a group aspect, that appeals to some people. Kinda like Sudoku people. It's a hobby; it's mostly harmless - except for unstable (already) people.
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Voicelessness and Emotional Survival Message Board / Re: Nothing much really
« Last post by sKePTiKal on August 28, 2025, 08:12:06 AM »
I'm ok. I don't do a lot of "exciting" or major things either. Though I guess my improvement projects on the place count, for some people. My life is a lot like you describe yours - but for me, that's freedom. Usually it takes awhile of the quiet for me to get a glimmer of an idea of something creative i want to focus on; involves things I want, i guess.

I don't think you lack courage to make decisions for yourself. Starting with the practical things might get you used to the process. What practical things are you pondering?
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"lonely individuals had elevated levels of specific proteins linked to inflammation, immune function, and brain health. Some of these proteins were also associated with conditions like cardiovascular disease, diabetes, and stroke."

Well that is something substantial to go on. But is it just lonliness or is it chronic stress that causes it?

I wonder if they will try to manufacture and sell the proteins if that's possible idk.
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Voicelessness and Emotional Survival Message Board / Re: Predatory grooming
« Last post by Meh on August 28, 2025, 12:24:01 AM »

Q Anon is one of the weirder aspects of our times. Never tried to even understand it but it's always seemed like a psychological operation from somewhere.

I went through my whole obsession with learning about cults for a while and then got off of that. Whatever the Q Anon thing is it does not seem like an organic cult that happened by accident. I don't know though. It seems like people intentionally misleading others. Sort of the accelerationist style theories in politics... make things worse faster to get a more drastic result sooner and then take control out of the chaos.
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Voicelessness and Emotional Survival Message Board / Re: Nothing much really
« Last post by Meh on August 28, 2025, 12:06:02 AM »
It's going okay have heard nothing from N or they may have emailed me but I've not thought about that very much. I'm pretty boring or my life is quite boring. All I can seem to do is wake up, get dressed, commute, tolerate work, commute, eat, and go to sleep. It just happens that I was motivated to turn my old laptop on tonight. I don't know what I am doing in my life. I sort of don't want to make any major decision but if I make none I am going to be stuck. How to get courage to decide. Perhaps it's just needing to make practical decisions as a basis for decisions.

How ya doing?
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What a great service you did her, Lighter!

Reintroducing joy, self esteem, etc.

Bravoooo!

hugs
Hops
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Had dinner with nice neighbor lady, Charlotte, on Saturday.  Her life is so closed, and tedious and difficult..... very SAD.  I felt like a naughty child, breaking an enslaved child out, for the evening......and so began her villain arc.

She's never said No.  Never set a boundary. Never NOT worried, over things, outside her control.

Through a lovely breezy cool evening, on PF Chang's patio, we laughed and immersed ourselves in a lovely white wine, lettuce wraps, honey shrimp, beef with broccoli and a flight of desserts.  She can't (normally)drink alcohol, but one half glass, over 3 hours....was a short return to the life she used to have. Her eyes sparkled....she giggled.  I've never seen her giggle.

She understands..... she's going to feel like a villain when saying no to babysitting 2 rambunctious grandsons, setting a boundary, or choosing to not fret over her husband's meals....he has advanced Parkinson's....she changes 5 to 7 adult diapers, daily, with arthritic hands.  Her heart and lungs aren't good.

She sent a message Monday am ....she was feeling 100% better....feeling entitled to set boundaries, release outcome, and embrace humor instead.....God loves a good segue. 

A huge shift in POV....
she'd been reading about boundaries and feeling defeated at the thought. 

Another Amazon steps to the fire, ladies. 


Lighter

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After dental hygienist said she does it, I began oil pulling with coconut oil last night.  I don't hate it.  The jarred coconut oil, from Aldi's, tastes yummy.....flossed after with Dr Tung's brand floss....not sure why, but I  think it is gentler on gums and works very well.

I woke up and oil pulled through my morning chores..... didn't time it.  They say 5 to 20 minutes, but watching that clock creates anxiety.

Anyone else practice this?  One of my nieces has been doing it for years.

Lighter

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Voicelessness and Emotional Survival Message Board / Re: Farm Journal - 2025
« Last post by sKePTiKal on August 26, 2025, 09:21:23 AM »
It's different things with each of them. B sees all current behaviors/events as exactly like what he has had to deal with in the past. It can ONLY be that one thing, in his mind. I keep pointing out how it isn't necessarilly the same. Repetition can have magical results.  <smile> Especially for someone as OCD as he is combined with ADHD attributes. Yes, he has days he needs a lot of "adult supervision". LOL.

Hol thinks EVERYONE "can do better", "try harder", and learn different ways of being, communicating & behaving. My only issue with that, is that the only acceptable result (to her) is to be exactly like HER. Choosing something ELSE gets charactized as being defensive, ashamed, afraid, stubborn, controlling, negative, and disrespecting her "need" to "understand". SIGH. Again, repetition is my chinese water tactic to get her to "allow" people to be something DIFFERENT - and just as equal or valuable.

Neither one of these idiosyncrasies rises much above a level of annoyance for me. Yeah, it's tiresome. But it is familiar and if it threatens to go beyond annoyance - the boundaries get enforced sharply & quickly and both will back off. Then, I'll go read a book for 6 hours. Buh-bye.... I'm done.

I think that's just my introvert coping - I've peopled enough for that day; now like Greta Garbo, I just vant to be ALONE. LOLOLOLOL.

Both have just enough intellectual understanding of psycho-speak to develop rational "explanations". But neither is busting their butt to work through to the letting go point, of things that are based on old traumatic realities that no longer exist in their lives. Hol, in particular, is having a difficult time separating her self, from how she learned to cope way back when, with different people, in different circumstances.

She IS a smart one. And ALWAYS thinking (and overthinking, and recursively thinking). I see a little bit of her learning to relax - truly relax - more. But that's new. Her hypervigilance and anxiety about how she's perceived by others leads her to go as far as imagining other people's feelings and perceptions - and then claiming it's what she sees. And then, she spirals up into her overthinking again. And dominating conversations so much, I in particular can't even form or finish a sentence before she interupts again. If I call her on it, then "I'm not hearing her". SIGH. The implied message is that I'm not accepting her perception, her decision on the motivations behind it, etc etc, ad boredom.

Yeah, I see old patterns from my past - but these are different people, I'm different, and circumstances are VERY different. I look at things for a LONG TIME, before I trust my own discernment of a situation to open my yap and talk about it. I want to know I'm "seeing" and "understanding" my SELF correctly and think about the words I'm going to use so that other people can understand my arcane & fuzzy ways of combining perception and feelings and conclusions.

Some days just aren't "people" days for me.
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