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Hopalong

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Re: Relationship/s
« Reply #885 on: October 01, 2021, 08:10:21 PM »
Mr. Lovely (fit guy) turns out to be a sweet and humble veterinarian who's very very Christian (which I'm not) and that's too bad, because he's quite attractive and totally into animals (Pooch loved him) and we talked for more than 3 hours and so on....

I'll probably see him again as a FRIEND but the religion thing is a big barrier to anything more most likely. Too bad. He's appealing in a lot of ways but I fear all the creepy stuff.

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« Reply #886 on: October 02, 2021, 09:05:33 AM »
Too bad about the religious stuff.  I feel it's sort of comforting and safe, at times, when good men really believe they'll go to hell for acting on impulses, but understand the fear. 

Wolves cloaked in religion have bitten me more than once.

I was thinking about the marching orders to go share Jesus with others.  Brilliant, marketing strategy but very concerning when it's pointed right at me.
WHY does this person want me or anyone to think they're a "good" Christian? 

Sorry it was creepy, Hops.

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« Reply #887 on: October 02, 2021, 10:56:55 AM »
Actually it wasn't creepy to be with him for this occasion, Lighter. Only sign of his religiosity I noticed was sad eyes and I think wafts of guilt coming across and a mention of himself as a sinner.

What I meant by "creepy" is that I WOULD fear getting involved with someone who's soaking themselves in that kind of evangelicalism. I recognize it and know what would come up for me. Not his fault and he should stay where he finds the comfort.

I'm pining for the Scot (kidding) and thinking after a month has lapsed I'll send him one email and just ask for clarity: he's the one who mentioned getting together for "lunch." If I don't hear even a lunch suggestino soon I'll figure he's either: 1) dating around or someone else, 2) not attracted to me as a potential partner in the first place, or 3) not ready emotionally.
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« Reply #888 on: October 02, 2021, 11:55:55 PM »
Heard from the Scot! He wants lunch week after next. Mentioned he's setting up "dog play dates" for his pooch while her usual walker is away. So I mentioned that once we know if he and Pooch are compatible, his dog could also come play in my yard, though Pooch's not much for playing rough. Had fun telling him "a little preemptive forgiveness might be in order...."

We'll see if he's interested in that, but regardless I'm delighted I'll be seeing him again.

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« Reply #889 on: October 03, 2021, 06:36:31 AM »
PS The veterinarian is involved with a local church that was seeded and is supported by a famous very right-wing and mega-rich (all those tithes) Xian "university" (which has no academic respect) that has intentionally worked to plant its graduates in every government office they can be hired into, along with all sorts of influential other places. I consider that institution a festering fascism farm and absolutely fear what it's already contributed to undermining our democracy, which is teetering on its last legs.

No matter how "nice" he is, I think the good doggie doc is absolutely brainwashed and is volunteering for more of it. I think it's nice that we had such an enjoyable date and conversation, but it was the first and last one for me.
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« Reply #890 on: October 03, 2021, 07:49:20 AM »
Well now, that's happy news about your Scot! Excellent....
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« Reply #891 on: October 03, 2021, 04:23:11 PM »
Woo hoo!  Glad you're pleased, Hops.

I adore the vision of you and Pooch walking through lovely fall breezes to have lunch and fellowshing with the Scott.  Playdates in the yard, with that fancy fire pit. 

Ya.
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Re: Relationship/s
« Reply #892 on: October 12, 2021, 11:49:23 PM »
How are things going with the boys, Hops?


Is the weather beautiful there?  It's glorious here...perfect for walks. 

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« Reply #893 on: October 13, 2021, 08:57:36 AM »
Hi Lighter --
The Scot had to cancel lunch as he's gotta bad cold, but we'll be rescheduling after I get back. Leaving for beach today, and so unready! Slept thru alarm. Just now having enough tea to pry eyes open. It'll all work out.

It's gray and foggy here today so far. The beach will be partly cloudy low 70s today and tomorrow (my idea of perfect), warmer (78) and sunny Friday and we leave Saturday).

Really looking forward to this getaway.

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« Reply #894 on: October 13, 2021, 02:58:46 PM »
I just landed in Florida, Hops.  A good day to travel.
You're right....it will work out.

We're going to see lemurs and do yoga with bunnies.  I know you'll have a wonderful trip.  Is pooch with you?  I saw a lady with a Maltese in each arm at the airport.  Hands full!

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« Reply #895 on: October 13, 2021, 08:43:30 PM »
Nope, Pooch is home with her friendly dogsitter, my kind friend who's also in my Covenant Group. Plus she's a solid (and long) 20 lbs so I couldn't tote her for long in the crook o' my arm.

Yup, all will change and all will be well.

Speaking of Relationships, I'm renewing my fondness for this wacky group of UU women. We're all vaxxed and boosted-as-applicable and tested negative...so we're hanging out in this huge house mask free. HOPE it's safe but sure am enjoying it.

And the ocean view is right out front and absolutely gorgeous. With beach as far as the eye can see we've spotted about 3 people. Sooooo lovely. I'm happy to be here!

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« Reply #896 on: October 14, 2021, 09:10:58 AM »
I'm staying with my niece and her bf in 90degree still Florida.  We ate Thai outdoors last night.....beautiful and breezy with bats flying about...I can't take the heat of the day, or....I don't want to anymore. 

I'm glad you're enjoying face to face fellowship In a group again.  Soak it up and keep updating. 

Sometimes we think an it flying with the pug, but she's 5 lbs bigger than your pooch!  Chubby pug!

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« Reply #897 on: October 14, 2021, 12:22:40 PM »
Which beach did y'all go to Hops?
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« Reply #898 on: October 14, 2021, 12:24:08 PM »
I'll PM with info.

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« Reply #899 on: October 16, 2021, 01:06:30 PM »
Beach gathering was 90% delightful, even with 10 women so different from each other. Long tradition in this group of ridiculous sarcastic banter which I adore hearing (rapid fire, too). I love listening to them get into it while they play cards. I don't enjoy cards so just hang out and it is FUN.

Bed wasn't comfy but, feh, rentals. One incident was tough but I feel okay about the aftermath. One woman there who knows my D story well has her own...she lost her beloved girl to suicide four-five years ago. She absolutely cracked with anguish and I was among those who supported her and listened during the peak of it. Reached out to her several times since and enjoyed our emailing. Anyway, she'd moved away right after her loss but comes back for the annual beach thing. She is VERY bright and verbal...kind of free-associates long detailed stories that are very entertaining and interesting, although the never-pause delivery can be wearing. I have always liked her (maybe with a little wariness) and really looked forward to seeing her again. She's closer to several others in the group, long term.

For some reason being with all of us from her old community must have stirred up fresh unhappiness (she hasn't yet really found her tribe in NC and perhaps moved away from her support system too soon) and discontent, on top of all the reminders of the people around her when it happened (her D had been hospitalized in Germany and on a daypass jumped to her death). Absolutely ghastly for friend, who sobbed all the way across the Atlantic in the arms of kind flight attendants.

Long story shorter: I wasn't saying anything at all at that moment as a group conversation was going, with friend talking a good deal about how hard that year had been, with her characteristic great intensity. I was just listening and nodding with empathy (and feeling it) like everyone else. After somebody said, "Raise your hand if you were a perfect mother" and one woman did as a joke and the rest of us including me just kept listening, she suddenly turned and looked over at me and said nastily: "Well we ALL know YOU screwed up as a parent!" Out of the blue.

I was dumbstruck. I heard later a few others were too. I let it pass instantly, feeling that she was projecting out of the intense feelings of chaos and anguish she was trying to cope with in that moment. But it did shock me and hurt. A little later I said gently, "I don't think I screwed up as a parent, though I made plenty of mistakes. It's a little hard to predict mental illness or what it can do." And then the moment passed. (Another woman told me later I handled it with grace, so whew.)

I forgave her instantly but also recognized that I probably won't be able to relax or let down my guard around her again. Words really can wound if you go for the most vulnerable place. I don't think she planned it or realized how hurtful a thing it'd be to say to me, because her own pain is so acute she cannot see outside. I really do understand that and feel very badly for her. Still, being in a group of women (always a tiptoe thing for me because of the early-life girl-bullies stuff) it was a bummer to have to negotiate that particular moment.

I did though. And I think pretty well. I still look forward to going again next year. It's definitely a good laboratory for me to work on how much to assert in groups of women, when to let stuff go, and just observe the group dynamic in them and how I interact with it myself. (For some reason I'm bulletproof with men in groups--I think because I truly do not care about their approval. I'm more vulnerable with women.)

On this annual trip there's enough silliness and lively interesting talk and the sense of all of us belonging to a larger thing (the local UU community) that makes it worthwhile and eases my isolation. I'm happy I got a spot and will be saving up every month to be able to go next time -- for a whole week.

In a way it made me feel like I had my church family back. I'm grateful, I need these people and most of them like and a few love me. That's a nice thing! I learn a lot more about them and myself every time I'm around them, and this visit I got closer to a couple. Really glad about that.

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