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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #285 on: August 16, 2020, 04:18:56 PM »
Oh CB, I'm so very sorry. I hope it's not true.

Whatever comes, I hope for the best outcome.
And that you all can find calmness in spite of fear.

What a shitty thing to be forced to try not to think about!

Is he waiting for test results? Any idea how long?

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« Reply #286 on: August 16, 2020, 08:40:44 PM »
Oh, CB.... I hope it's not COVID, and if it is, I hope both son and partner will be fine.

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« Reply #287 on: August 17, 2020, 06:05:48 AM »
Keeping everything crossed, CB, that it's a bug and not Covid and that it passes quickly.  Such a worry and impossible not to worry, I think.  Thinking of all of you and sending much love xx

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« Reply #288 on: August 18, 2020, 07:15:43 PM »
Medical detection dogs are undergoing training (small group so far) to detect the odor of Covid-19. In early tests, they detected it apart from other scents 97% of the time! (Washington Post today.)

Long way to go before it's operational in airports, schools, etc (much less having enough trained dogs) but it's lovely news.

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« Reply #289 on: August 18, 2020, 10:40:40 PM »
(((((CB)))))

I'm so glad you know how to release that worry, and what wisdom that is.

I'll be thinking of you and them, with lots of love.

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« Reply #290 on: August 19, 2020, 02:30:10 AM »
They STILL hadnt gone in to be tested and I suggested that he go in and get tested for STREP, since that also has sorethroat, headache and fever. I figured they would be tested automatically for covid with those symptoms, and they might have been, but the strep test is positive so he is getting treated for that.

Getting info out of them is like pulling teeth. I dont think they want to worry me--he has apparently been sick for over a week without saying anything to me.  Anyway, I'm hopeful that strep is all it is. Also that I get another chance to talk to them soon to see if the covid test was done. 

Thanks for all your encouragement. I am just laying down my worry. Theres' nothing I can do.

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I find I worry more when I don't know what is going on, CB, and my son is very similar - getting an answer out of him about anything more complex than "do you want a biscuit" is such hard work.  I get they don't want you to worry but it's so hard not to.  I will keep my fingers crossed it is strep and nothing else.  I think one of the concerns here with winter on the way is that people will have to assume it may be Covid whenever they get a cough or cold and the docs will be swamped.  It's still such a worrying and stressful time.  I hope your son and partner are both feeling better soon and that you will be able to relax a bit xx

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« Reply #291 on: August 19, 2020, 01:39:35 PM »
CB:

Are you surprised it's Strep?  I was surprised.  Is that going around now too?

I know there's a checklist of symptoms requiring mandatory COVID testing.  If he had enough symptoms for it, they likely did the test.

I hope your son recovers quickly.  Strep is so painful, IME.

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« Reply #292 on: August 22, 2020, 12:51:45 PM »
Well it's getting me down now.  Basically the situation here now is that you can pretty much do what you want - some things are still shut but most are open - people aren't supposed to be meeting at each other's houses but of course they are - but the virus is very much here and very much continuing.  Generally diagnosing upwards of a thousand cases a day and that of course will be fewer cases than there are because there will be the people who don't show symptoms and people who are a bit unwell but don't get a test because they can't afford to take more time off work.  So to keep safe we still need to stay home as much as possible and keep our distance if we do go out and that will be until they get a vaccine (if they get a vaccine) or until the virus dies out on its own (which apparently can happen?).

I'm still glad we're not rushing about like we were.  The money we've been able to save is a bonus, as is the clarity of thinking I'm experiencing.  Son and I are both experiencing better health than usual, although we have both put on a bit of weight.  If we can get a car at the end of next month that will help.  But the reality of it likely being another year before I can hug someone, if not longer, kind of hit me today and that's got me down a bit now.  If my lottery win comes in we're moving to New Zealand pronto!

CB, did you have any more news from your son yet? xx

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« Reply #293 on: August 22, 2020, 02:26:31 PM »
That has to be tough, Tupp.  Wanting hugs, and needing physical contact during quarantine.  I hug my girls, quite a bit, but don't miss the hugs from tipsy neighbors.   

On the TV Reality Show, Alone,  (Season 7) where 10 people go out into the Canadian Arctic for 100 days on their own, if they can make it, and live off the land while filming themselves.   There was an episode where one of the female contestants missed human contact.  A dead rabbit, she'd trapped, was hanging by her head, and she unconsciously reached for a paw..... then hesitantly pulled it to her face as she wept, and cuddled it without shame.  So very touching. 

I wonder if you can create a happy place, for yourself,  with people you love and feel supported by.  To meet up with, and hug, and maybe swim or build fires with, whatever is comforting to you. 

When we visualize something, our minds actually believe we're IN THAT PLACE. 

I'll be one of your virtual huggers, (((Tupp.)))

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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #294 on: August 23, 2020, 12:07:33 AM »
Resorted to hugging dead rabbits eh, that's about my speed. Thanks I need that as a confirmation that all humans are liable to be strange and crazy under certain circumstances.

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« Reply #295 on: August 23, 2020, 12:16:21 AM »
I'm down also Two, very sad past few weeks. Jealous of a couple having a charmed life, if only I could stop stalking them on instagram. Sigh. Mature no, so what. But really I've managed to fall into some deeper sadness than I expected. It happens, there is hardly any fighting it. But it contributes to my procrastination and anxiety etc. It's a messy snarl of shadows. Being sad is like having a shadow the size of a whale sucking all your light out. I'm trying to just be one with the darkness, nothing else can be done until it decides to drift off again.

Plus being sad means one is bad company.

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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #296 on: August 23, 2020, 10:00:54 AM »
((((Tupp)))) and ((((((Garbanzo))))). Let's do that again. Bring it in, girls.

I'm very sorry. I think it really is different now and hitting people at a new level.
For six months, many people have been on an almost-adventure with quarantine,
at least some of the time. Full of bright smart declarations about vaccines
and treatments and best masks and so forth, topped off with dismay about
the lack of pulling together in the population AND incompetence in gov't.

But now. Now it's more like oh...that wasn't just a different period, this
may be a different era. Nature has her foot on our necks right now and humanity
is getting humbled.

About the touching--I wish I could hug each of you. Every day.
The only coping I can think of so far, for myself, is to persistently keep alert
to the possibility of Zooming my way to new friendships/relationships, that might
eventually lead to a safe "pod."

A committed "pod" agreement with somebody (such as I had with M).
We just had a commitment to do the same level of precautions consistently so after quarantining in our own places for three weeks, we felt safe with each other (hugging) and at each others' homes. It was nice while it lasted. Now, with less intimate connections, it's harder to find that fit. For example, I'd thought that many people my age would already be on board with seriously cautious behavior about the risks. But with one friend I discussed "pod" with, he mentioned that he went into the store recently because he "needed" a taste of blue cheese. Then we talked about how that wasn't a need but a craving. Hmmm. Bottom line,
I have many friends who still see grocery shopping in person as a need, not
a want. (It's a sensuous pleasure or positive experience they are convinced
is necessary. And perhaps it is, for their mental health. I'm the opposite--it's a chore and I can do without it.) I Shall Meet Needs Through Delivery and Amazon, Period. Nobody dies if somebody else picks out my zucchini. But I've learned to accept more than judge....because it really is true that different people have different levels of risk tolerance. Mine is intentionally very low on this, maybe because of my emergency hospitalization a year ago; with covid that'd be even more intense and that was scary enough.

And if the distress of going to stores or out in the community is exacerbated by some others being anti-civil or anti-social, then rather than rant, I'd just rather put my focus into figuring out what I can. I'm now doing Zoom dates with friends and it really does help. Physically, I can shrink my world to my street for walks, and a couple neighbors who's yards I safely sit in now and then or vice versa. It's good enough.

I have also heard of people establishing intentional pods with a couple of
friends, etc. Most often it's younger families, so the kids can play, but it
is rational with anyone. I wouldn't be surprised if in a few months we hear
about older people, solo people who live alone, all sorts of people finding
ways to set up small pods. Whether or not they're hugging pods, just to
know you can sit in someone's LR and watch a movie together, would help.
Or vice versa.

Meanwhile, I'm so grateful we have this place in space. To open up
our ribs and share how hard it is. And toning down the self-congratulation
when we do find solutions. There's always someone who deserves
easing of the pain of isolation just as much as we do, but who is unable to access the solutions we all read about (or write about).

The other thing I often think of is animals. People who are able to find or rescue an amimal really do have something to love. Physically and daily. Most people of privilege here who need one or more pets already have them, and it's harder for others to acquire them as shelters in many places were rapidly emptied. But the reality is that new strays of all sorts are born every day. Old folks who live alone need people who can take in their pooches if they become ill. Rabbits breed and guinea pigs are sweet and affectionate. Rats are also affectionate and smart. Even some turtles express pleasure at a nice head rub. Everything alive needs love.

So if it's a budgiepuppybunnykitty (go for a lot of walks and always have treats and a soft leash in your pocket)...there is something living out there right now who could come home with you and fill that hole in your heart. For me, the next animal to love will be a senior pooch. I have a friend doing that now for a "hospice dog" and she will do it again. I will teach myself to do bonding and releasing.

I personally don't believe in treating old animals for cancer and such (unless it's a superficial tumor that can be surgically removed). People are always ignoring the fact that domesticated animals are STOIC and don't complain vocally about their pain. Yet some almost brag about putting pets through chemo. Digression, sorry.

My next-pet ideas (Pooch is fine, just aging) include:
--Asking my vet to keep me in mind when he hears about small pooches that may need a place
--Sending a letter to the Directors of a few Assisted Living communities, likewise (with references). Some residents have small pets and that's always an issue when the resident is moved to memory or nursing care.
--Asking a reputable rescue group how I can volunteer (they put you at top of list)

I wish I could fix this, guys. I'm just rambling on about ways to find hope and hugs and love, because that's the only actual solution to the sorrow, imo. And we each have to haul ourselves forward toward what we need. I wish I could pack it up in a box and send it to each of you.

love and hugs
Hops
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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #298 on: August 23, 2020, 12:23:36 PM »
This is also what's happening...watch, I promise you won't be sorry!
Hugs, Hops

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=20&v=h_7jvxBObaw&feature=emb_logo
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« Reply #299 on: August 23, 2020, 03:13:51 PM »
I couldn't help but twinge to this bit, in a NYTimes story about "Are New Yorkers Wearing Masks?" today:

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The mask rule Gov. Andrew M. Cuomo handed down on April 15 leaves some room for interpretation. It requires that those over age 2 who can medically tolerate covering their mouths and noses do so “when in a public place and unable to maintain, or when not maintaining, social distance,” which is understood as six feet from other people.

But if you walk by someone and happen to pass within four feet for a split second, does that count as being “unable to maintain” social distance? Who knows. At the corners where we did our counts, sometimes people were closer than six feet apart. Sometimes they weren’t.

But in almost every place, more men than women were walking around unmasked — usually a lot more: At some corners, the gender gap approached 25 percentage points.

Men were also considerably more likely than women to be wearing their masks in a kinda-sorta way — nostrils peeking over, mask under chin, mask dangling from one ear strap.

Setting aside these partial mask-wearers, and those holding masks in hand — all of whom arguably deserve some credit if they mask up fully when approaching a crowd — the numbers boiled down to this: Nearly one in three men were walking around unmasked, while only about one in six women were.
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Please, Lawd. Balance male privilege/domination in the running of the world, and the world will get better. Right? (And I needn't add that I love men. Ahhh doooo.)

Sigh,
Hops
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