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Re: Abusive family
« Reply #60 on: June 14, 2007, 10:25:53 AM »
El,

FULL of joy for you.

You did it, girl. You walked yourself right out of numbness and fought for your own healing.

This is going to be work, hon. But you can do it, and it is going to take you to a future that's a thousand times better.

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« Reply #61 on: June 14, 2007, 11:01:56 AM »
El,

It sounds like you have found yourself a good therapist - well done. It will be easier now you have someone to talk to face to face. It'll be hard work, but it'll be well worth it.

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Re: Abusive family
« Reply #62 on: June 14, 2007, 11:05:41 AM »

Great news El!  Glad to hear it!

You're on your way now!

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« Reply #63 on: June 14, 2007, 11:15:29 AM »
lighter,

I went to the Women's Studies department and asked for off-campus abuse resources. They told me to go to the Women's Center and talk to the director. She wasn't there, I left a copy of my first post with my email on it. She emailed me with a few counseling centers. i picked the one that looked the most interesting. And its close to campus-I can walk there. Here is the website:

http://www.karunacounseling.com/

It is female-only, I believe. And the environment is very personal and relaxed. It is run in a house and there is a code to get in the door that each therapist gives to her patient. It has a very private atmosphere. I walked there yesterday, and sat outside on the steps until someone came in ( I didn't have the code). I went in with her and talked to her therapist, who agreed to talk with me after her appointment. So I talked to her an hour later, and she is a good match for me. She seemed shocked by my story and thinks I have post traumatic stress. She is willing to work around my financial difficulties until I get university insurance.

It is weird to me that so many people are shocked by my upbringing. I don't really know how atypical it is. I know it was not normal, but I don't really know how others grew up to compare. How did others grow up. Sometimes I want to spy on people to see what it looks like. Then maybe I will see truly how weird and sick that house is.


I think it's more typical than you think, for children to be raised with abuse.  I also think you can see how this would go unreported and/or disregarded.  Look how hard it's been for you to get help and you've been working very hard at telling your story.  Had you been in a weaker place you wouldn't have gotten to that therapist.  You'd be curled up on the bathroom floor still and no one would know.  
I think there are lots of people out there who haven't been diligent enough to make themselves heard.


I don't think anyone wants to know or deal with this, in the first place.  DENIAL.  It's easier to ask, "what's wrong with the victim?"  What did they do?  Why would they have stayed or put up with or not called the police or told a family member.  WHY would the mother allow that?  No one wants to believe PARENTS, in general, can't be trusted not to eat their young bc then society is obligated to step in and that's uncomfortable for society.  Everyone has their own dragons to sleigh and all that.  

It's just plain IMPROBABLE, right?  People tend to dismiss the improbables outright.  And that's just unfortunate.  I'm dealing with it right now and society has some very warped ideas of women.  Esp abused women.

Thanks for sharing your journey and resources.  I think it may help others who come to this board.  Don't you?  In the meantime, count your blessings and expect ups and downs.  It's "normal" and if anyone has PTSD it's going to be you.  

Be kind to yourself.  We're here for you and there's usually someone on the board to respond quickly.  Lot's of wise maternal women here who know about your struggles.  You'll get through.  You'll be stronger for all the pain and difficulties that come.  I promise.  

((El))  Stay strong.  I'm amazed at your strength so far.


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Re: Abusive family
« Reply #64 on: June 14, 2007, 11:27:54 AM »
el:  The one thing you have over so many of us is the realization of your abuse.  So many of us have lived with our Dysfunction well into our 40s And 50s.  The fact that you see your life for what it is at such a young age means you can deal with your issues and live a much better long term life!
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« Reply #65 on: June 14, 2007, 08:40:10 PM »
This is wonderful, El.  Karuna Counseling sounds like just the right place for you.  I would probably like it too!

I agree that your upbringing is probably not so singular as people would have you believe, or would have themselves believe.  This is just really hard stuff to face.  It gets to what your soul is worth.  Most people can't face it.  We here, on this board, are people who can't NOT face it.

I'm happy for you!

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Re: Abusive family
« Reply #66 on: June 15, 2007, 10:15:38 PM »
bean,
Today, I'm really good, actually. I like and trust my therapist (so far). But I haven't started therapy yet.

I don't "fear a relationship with a man" I just don't want it. I never understood why all the girls would talk about boys . I don't understand it at all. In fact, I'm repulsed by them at a very deep level. I think it's cognitive thing involving neuron paths, neurotransmitters and synapses. This is speculation, but I just might hate them all at a chemical level. (I prefer the cognitive branch of psychology). I became aware of this in the last few months. For example: one day I was walking across the university lawn and I saw two people laying on the grass, their bodies parallel to the ground, and they were leaning on each other. I didn't see their sexes but I think they were male and female. The sight of them made me sick to my stomach, I felt the bile creeping up my esophagus. I had to look away or I might have vomited (which would have been embarrassing). I was shocked at the intensity of my reaction. Normally when I see things like this or hear people talk about dates or kissing or sex or anything like that, I can't relate. I normally just roll my eyes and wonder what would possess them into these activities. But mostly I ignore such conversation.

It is no big deal really. The issue is this: I am only just now aware of this dislike. But I can't control it, my body and mind do it instinctively, and even when I try to be nice to them, I can't. I know in theory that all men aren't bad, I reckon alot are actually quite nice. I know it is wrong to have a huge and all-encompassing prejudice like this. But my body reacts that way. And I truly have no desire to change this. BUT I do have male acquiescences since I like to play videogames. They are good for that. 

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« Reply #67 on: June 16, 2007, 11:11:41 AM »
El:  I can relate to that urge to vomit.  I think you've been in a survival mode so long you can't begin to contemplate the complexities of a normal man woman relationships.  The incongruity of what you know about men (your father) and what you see in the world making you vomit makes complete sense to me. 
 

You're aware of it and you seem very rational about it.  Just waiting with it and not making assumptions about it seems very logical.  At some point I think knowledge and healing will help you unravel that mystery.  I'm glad you're aware and able to examine it without letting yourself become defeated or overwhelmed by the feelings. 

I think you're better off alone and focused on YOU anyway.  Adding romantic involvments, esp the ones where we invite abusive men, can be a catalyst for healing, however painful. 

For my part, I think you have catalyst enough in your horror show father.  You're focusing on you right now.  I'm glad that you can, quite frankly.

Figuring out your FOO will help you make good decisions with regard to inviting ANYONE into your life in the future.  Don't fret just be aware of your feelings and keep learning and growing.  I have a lot of confidence in your ability to overcome and build yourself up. 

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Re: Abusive family
« Reply #68 on: June 16, 2007, 01:12:45 PM »
lighter,

What is FOO?

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Re: Abusive family
« Reply #69 on: June 16, 2007, 01:34:58 PM »
FOO is family of origin,El.
The fact that you like video games cracks me up. I have two boys who looove video games and  I always hear that 'video game noise" upstairs.
   El, I had such a strong reaction when you said about seeing that couple made you want to vomit.In fact, I am dizzy right now.I have been getting dizzy as these emotions come up.   My father was the co dependent. he was not actively abusive,but would not stand up.
    I started having a phobia of throwing up when I was in the second or third grade. I was  panicky about this all the time. I started having panic attacks in seventh grade where I would sit in my chair and just tremble. I never told anyone because I thought that  I was crazy and I was ashamed .
   I think that it was my mother who so repulsed me and I did not know what to do with it.My mother ,to me, was the most disgusting , revolting person. I felt to her like you would feel when you see a snake.There is something that is sickening about a snake(I think) and it gives you a repulsive type of sensation..
 I have not gotten to the bottom of my feelings. It is slow,but every breakthrough is so wonderful that it is like a trip to Hawaii. I always felt really numb and unreal. Now,I feel more real and I so appreciate it.Also, I got my love of reading back and I just am so happy to read a big,fat book and forget about everything else. There are a lot of things that I want to reclaim and they will come, I think.
  There are many joys out there for you. You are doing great. You have a whole board of people rooting for you       Love Ami
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Re: Abusive family
« Reply #70 on: June 16, 2007, 08:03:25 PM »


el,

Glad you're hanging around with us on the board  :)

Is substance abuse or alcoholism at play in your FOO?   I've read a little on physical abuse and it appears that there may be a link between physical abuse and substance abuse.   As always, I don't want to be invasive about anything you aren't ready to talk about.  Take your time.

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Re: Abusive family
« Reply #71 on: June 18, 2007, 05:38:17 PM »
I had my first therapy session today. My therapist wants me to get depression medication. I did some reading on my own last night, and the book mentioned Dissociative identity Disorder. And I could possibly have that. The therapist says that I could possibly have it, but she doesn't know yet. I just want to be diagnosed.

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« Reply #72 on: June 18, 2007, 06:26:25 PM »
teartracks,

My father's mother was an alcoholic. His sister is a drug addict with one delinquent son and another with mental retardation and cerebral palsy. He does not drink.

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« Reply #73 on: June 18, 2007, 07:03:59 PM »
Dear El,
   Do you feel better after seeing the therapist? I am not telling you what to do about medication. I would just like to pose that I could have been diagnosed "dissociative disorder" because I always felt 'numb" and unreal. However, after healing a little bit, I feel much more real. Things are not written in stone.
   The way that I look at it, anyone would "dissociate" with your F. I guess what I am saying is don't think that you are in a stagnant box where you will have that "disorder" forever. You can heal of whatever "name"  you are called. This is my opinion. Others see things differently as biological etc. I see that you went a "little nuts' from trying to survive a "major wacko". So I just did not want you to think that you  are stuck with a mental health "title" on you forever.(IMO)
   I am waiting to hear about what is happening with the therapy .as well as your school etc.
   You are doing so well- step by step . As the "Stooges said,"Step by step. inch by inch,mile by mile"
                                                                 Love and a Hug   Ami
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Re: Abusive family
« Reply #74 on: June 18, 2007, 10:37:32 PM »
I had my first therapy session today. My therapist wants me to get depression medication. I did some reading on my own last night, and the book mentioned Dissociative identity Disorder. And I could possibly have that. The therapist says that I could possibly have it, but she doesn't know yet. I just want to be diagnosed.


Hey, El.  What meds is she thinkin you should take?  And, how did you feel about that first session? 

It sounds like you're anxiouse to get dx'd but, it'll take a little time to sort things out. 

I'm glad the T didn't try to slap a lable on you and have done with.  She sounds like she wants to help you figure it out and get it right when it happens.  What was your feeling about it?