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« Reply #900 on: September 28, 2009, 08:29:37 AM »
Thanks, Rugrats5.

It's taken SEVERAL YEARS to get to the point where I am now and it's going to continue to take time to work through all of this cr*p!

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« Reply #901 on: September 28, 2009, 08:30:37 AM »
I like your blogging, Bones!                                 Ami
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Re: Is It Always N Behavior to Violate Others' Boundaries?
« Reply #902 on: September 28, 2009, 08:32:53 AM »
Thanks, Ami.

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« Reply #903 on: September 28, 2009, 09:15:33 AM »
Passive-Aggressive Narcissists are the HARDEST to recognize as they often hide behind "excuses", "obtuseness", "pseudo-stupidity", "good works", etc. when everything they hide behind is NOTHING MORE THAN A FACADE!

Examples of Passive-Aggressive Narcissists:

After you've said "NO" to something, they continue to BADGER you in the VAIN hope that your "NO" will MAGICALLY change into a "YES".  NDoofus was FAMOUS for this! 

Several years ago, before her mother developed Alzheimer's Disease, the three of us were preparing food for a baby shower for NDoofus' younger sister.  The mother was making Heirloom Potato Salad from a recipe that has been handed down from mother to daughter for SEVERAL generations, (hence the HEIRLOOM).  This was one of the mother's gifts to her daughter who was about to give birth to the first grandchild.  While Mom was referring to her family recipe to check for the next ingredient, NDoofus kept BADGERING her about putting celery into the recipe!  (NDoofus has a problem about NOT BEING THE FIRST TO HAVE A BABY in her family!  That will be discussed in the next example.)  Her mother kept repeating the word:  "NO!" EVERY SINGLE TIME AND KEPT REMINDING HER THAT THE RECIPE DOES NOT USE CELERY!  Did that stop NDoofus?!?!?!?  HECK NO!  She continued to BADGER, and BADGER, and BADGER!!!!

Finally, I lost my patience and barked:  "WHAT PART OF THE WORD "NO" DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND?!?!!?  YOUR MOTHER HAS EXPLAINED C-L-E-A-R-L-Y that the recipe DOES NOT CALL FOR CELERY!!!  SHE HAS REPEATED THIS EXPLANATION, SEVERAL TIMES, TO YOU, FOR THE PAST HALF HOUR!!!!!  WILL YOU S-T-O-P?!?!?!?!?!?"

NDoofus then bats her eyes and simpers:  "Oh!!!!!!!!  Does No mean No?"  Then she simpers some more and giggles like she has done something funny!  UGH!!!!!   :P

NDoofus also passively-aggressively PUNISHED her younger sister for DARING TO BE FIRST in having a baby!

NDoofus always believed that SHE SHOULD BE FIRST with EVERYTHING!!!!  This included BEING THE FIRST to present her mother with her FIRST grandchild!  (NDoofus kept BADGERING her husband about becoming a mother and he flatly stated that he DID NOT want to become a father!  He was wise enough to see the handwriting on the wall regarding where the responsibility was going to get DUMPED when the child became INCONVENIENT to NDoofus!  She has a HISTORY of DUMPING whenever ANYTHING becomes INCONVENIENT to HER ROYAL PERSON!)  When her younger sister and younger sister's husband announced that they were expecting, I saw the RAGE in NDoofus' eyes because she believed that SHE WAS ENTITLED TO BE FIRST!

As the younger sister's pregnancy progressed, it soon became obvious that her pregnancy was high risk and her obstetrician ordered her to bed rest for the remainder of her pregnancy.  The drawback to this type of bed rest is that the younger sister couldn't get up to fix herself lunch, do her laundry, clean, etc.  This necessitated her mother, NDoofus and the other younger sister to come over at various times to help out while the father-to-be was at work.  One day, when NDoofus was over there, the pregnant younger sister needed to have her laundry done, which included laundering her maternity bras.  She gave CLEAR, EXPLICIT instructions to NDoofus regarding how the maternity bras needed to be laundered because they are DELICATE!  What did NDoofus do instead??????  SHE DESTROYED THE MATERNITY BRAS THEN LAUGHED IT OFF!!!!  She bragged to me, afterward, about what she did and LAUGHED HYSTERICALLY about how UPSET her younger sister was about the destruction!!!!  NDoofus was convinced that EVERYTHING SHE DID WAS SO-O-O-O HYSTERICALLY FUNNY!!!!!

I pointed out to her that SHE HAS TO REPLACE EVERYTHING SHE DESTROYED!!!!!  NDoofus gave me the usual glassy-eyed blank stare, batted her eyes and simpered:  "But-t-t-t-t-t-t, they're EXPENSIVE!!!!!!!"  I told her:  "THAT'S RIGHT, A$$!!!  YOU DELIBERATELY DESTROYED SOMEONE ELSE'S PROPERTY THAT IS EXPENSIVE!!!!!  YOU HAVE TO REPLACE WHAT YOU DELIBERATELY DESTROYED!!!!!"  Her response to that was nothing more than the glassy-eyed blank stare!!!!!  Did she EVER do the RIGHT THING?????  NO!!!!!  She continued to CACKLE, LAUGH AND BRAG ABOUT WHAT SHE DID whenever the opportunity presented itself because she is STILL CONVINCED THAT SHE'S SO FUNNY!!!!  (Years later, she attempted to repeat this offense at my graduation when she attempted to rip my graduation regalia apart seconds before the commencement ceremony was due to begin!  Her attitude is:  "IF I CAN'T HAVE THIS, THEN I'LL DESTROY YOURS SO YOU CAN'T HAVE IT EITHER!!!!!)  NB*TCH!!!!!!

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« Reply #904 on: September 28, 2009, 03:35:33 PM »
I mentioned this incident in an earlier thread, which is another example of passive-aggressive Narcissism:

To give some background:  As I previously mentioned, the mother of NDoofus has Alzheimer's Disease.  It has now progressed to the point where she has become incontinent.  That part of her brain that used to be able to control her bodily functions is now destroyed.  She had been using incontinence pads until she developed pressure sores, (also known as bedsores), in the area where the edges of the pad contacted her skin.  The doctor strongly advised not to use the pads anymore to avoid the development of a fatal infection.  NDoofus REFUSES to consider the pull-ups because they are INCONVENIENT for HER ROYAL PERSON!

Fast forward a few weeks....NDoofus DEMANDED my presence in HER house for dinner!  I told her I already had plans to see other friends at a restaurant, (I had NO desire to socialize with HER ROYAL PERSON anymore).  She then INVITED HERSELF to this other gathering and ANNOUNCED to her husband that SHE was taking HER mother to this restaurant!  Her husband tried to discreetly discourage taking her mother because she was NOT wearing ANY protection against incontinence and that could be disastrous in a restaurant setting!!!  NDoofus kept blathering mindlessly about HER plans and what SHE was going to do!  Her husband put his foot down and told her "NO, she was NOT taking her mother to a restaurant WITHOUT incontinence protection!"

Because her husband DARED to say the word "NO" to her little plans, she passively-aggressively punished him by DELIBERATELY TRASHING his schedule!  Then she called me, attempting to demonize him as "being difficult" while trying to proclaim herself as the "poor little innocent victim"!  I wasn't interested in hearing her cr*p and hung up!

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« Reply #905 on: September 29, 2009, 12:28:14 PM »
Another type of Passive-Aggressive Narcissist also Manipulates or attempts to do so.  Here are a few examples:

Years ago, when I was still working full-time, my then-sponsor and I attended a gathering where books were being sold.  I saw a book that I had wanted for quite a while and I was able to afford to get it.  The price wasn't bad at all!  As I was making my purchase, then-sponsor made a passive-aggressive cutting remark about "It's GREAT that YOU can afford to get it while MY husband won't let me BUY THAT!"  I just looked over at my then-sponsor, shrugged my shoulders, and completed my purchase.  It irked me that she was attempting to guilt-trip me out of getting a book based on her then-marriage when her marriage HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH ME!  (Her attitude seemed to be, "If I'M not allowed to have it, then YOU SHOULDN'T EITHER!"  Does this message seem familiar to anyone?)

Some years later, this now-ex-sponsor, announced in a 12-Step meeting of her intention to proceed with an action that was OBVIOUSLY UNWISE to EVERYONE in the meeting!  Several members, who had MORE sobriety than she did STRONGLY URGED her NOT to go that route and shared their own mistakes when they did the same thing and the consequences that followed.  Her response was:  "Oh, THAT DOESN'T APPLY TO ME!!!!!  I'M DIFFERENT!!!!!!"

Guess what happened????

She GOT THE SAME CONSEQUENCES THAT SHE HAD BEEN PREVIOUSLY WARNED ABOUT!!!!!!!!  Then she started whining to me and everyone else:  "Feel SORRY FOR ME!!!!  I'M A POOR LITTLE INNOCENT VICTIM AND EVERYBODY IS SCR*WING ME OVER!!!!"  She got ZERO sympathy!!!!

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« Reply #906 on: September 29, 2009, 12:37:38 PM »
Just wanted to share something that just happened on another discussion list.

I had shared, on a CONFIDENTIAL discussion board, about how I decided to have some fun, going Trick-or-Treating at age 35 because I was NEVER allowed to do so as a child.  This other individual posts to me, and the entire board:  "Well, I told MY mother what you did and she says that you are stupid and squirrelly!" (Unless her mother was subscribed to the board, she had NO business showing her mother ANYTHING from this CONFIDENTIAL discussion board!)

My response:  "Excuse me but I don't need your mother's judgment!  Enough said!!!!"

Sheesh!!!!!   :P

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« Reply #907 on: September 29, 2009, 01:38:38 PM »
Just wanted to share something that just happened on another discussion list.

I had shared, on a CONFIDENTIAL discussion board, about how I decided to have some fun, going Trick-or-Treating at age 35 because I was NEVER allowed to do so as a child.  This other individual posts to me, and the entire board:  "Well, I told MY mother what you did and she says that you are stupid and squirrelly!" (Unless her mother was subscribed to the board, she had NO business showing her mother ANYTHING from this CONFIDENTIAL discussion board!)

My response:  "Excuse me but I don't need your mother's judgment!  Enough said!!!!"

Sheesh!!!!!   :P

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« Reply #908 on: September 29, 2009, 01:45:53 PM »
Maybe so.

Her mother sounds like a typical N...passing judgment on people, and calling them names, that she don't even know!   :P

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Re: Is It Always N Behavior to Violate Others' Boundaries?
« Reply #909 on: September 29, 2009, 02:31:16 PM »
The person that posted is weird too ... not only why would s/he even tell the mother, but why post what the mother thought? And, why feel the need to say "my mother said ..." Weird.

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« Reply #910 on: September 29, 2009, 02:37:34 PM »
The person that posted is weird too ... not only why would s/he even tell the mother, but why post what the mother thought? And, why feel the need to say "my mother said ..." Weird.

Who knows???????????????????????   :roll:

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« Reply #911 on: September 30, 2009, 11:41:31 AM »
I'm seeing RED today!!!!!!   :x :evil: :twisted:

I've been reading in the news about Roman Polanski FINALLY being arrested for raping a 13-year-old child after giving her alcohol and a Quaalude.  Today, his former sister-in-law is quoted as saying that it wasn't rape because the sex was "consensual".  WHERE DOES SHE GET OFF SAYING THAT A 13-YEAR-OLD CAN HAVE CONSENSUAL SEX WITH AN ADULT...ESPECIALLY AFTER BEING DRUGGED BY THAT ADULT?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?  I HATE PEDOPHILES!!!!!!!

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« Reply #912 on: September 30, 2009, 12:04:53 PM »
I need to calm down before I can continue blogging about the types of Narcissists to watch out for.

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Re: Is It Always N Behavior to Violate Others' Boundaries?
« Reply #913 on: September 30, 2009, 01:28:29 PM »
I don't know whether he is a Narcissist or not, but he clearly is a paedophile. I used to feel sorry for him because of Sharon Tate's murder, and possibly that affected his sanity in some way, but he is guilty of a horrible sex crime and should face the consequences of his actions at last.

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« Reply #914 on: September 30, 2009, 02:07:08 PM »
I don't know whether he is a Narcissist or not, but he clearly is a paedophile. I used to feel sorry for him because of Sharon Tate's murder, and possibly that affected his sanity in some way, but he is guilty of a horrible sex crime and should face the consequences of his actions at last.

Agreed!!!!!!

Otherwise, other pedophiles would get the message that if they elude the law long enough, they can continue to rape children!

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