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What is this?
« on: May 14, 2012, 10:28:51 AM »
I know we are not supposed to diagnose but I simply cannot understand this person's behavior....

1.  We got our dog professionally trained.  The trainer came to our house and gave us a quick, 1 1/2 hour lesson on how to continue her training.  The entire time my husband did not look at her but directed all comments towards me.  He became flustered and had to leave before it was over.

2.  When my daughter and I are watching a show on Netflix in the living room, he walks in and starts talking to me.  We have to pause our show.  We tell him we are watching something but he continues to keep interrupting.

3.  The grand baby is sleeping on me.  I tell him to whisper.  He cannot whisper.

4.  When we have a group of people swimming in our pool, he does the same thing as Netflix.  He comes out and talks to ME.  No one else.  And he talks about himself.  His work.  His mowing.  What we should do in the next week.  He does not enter in to the conversation.

5.  We talk a lot about his shoe size.  His pants size.  How he gets his hair cut.

6.  He talks only about his favorite band, Journey.  Factoids about the singers, etc.  When I get in the car with him he turns on the same CD he's had in the car for 10 years.
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Re: What is this?
« Reply #1 on: May 14, 2012, 10:36:24 AM »
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6.  He talks only about his favorite band, Journey.  Factoids about the singers, etc.  When I get in the car with him he turns on the same CD he's had in the car for 10 years.

I don't what the first five are about but this one seems not only to be grounds for divorce, but justifiable homicide to boot.

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Re: What is this?
« Reply #2 on: May 14, 2012, 03:06:16 PM »
I know we are not supposed to diagnose but I simply cannot understand this person's behavior....

1.  We got our dog professionally trained.  The trainer came to our house and gave us a quick, 1 1/2 hour lesson on how to continue her training.  The entire time my husband did not look at her but directed all comments towards me.  He became flustered and had to leave before it was over.

2.  When my daughter and I are watching a show on Netflix in the living room, he walks in and starts talking to me.  We have to pause our show.  We tell him we are watching something but he continues to keep interrupting.

3.  The grand baby is sleeping on me.  I tell him to whisper.  He cannot whisper.

4.  When we have a group of people swimming in our pool, he does the same thing as Netflix.  He comes out and talks to ME.  No one else.  And he talks about himself.  His work.  His mowing.  What we should do in the next week.  He does not enter in to the conversation.

5.  We talk a lot about his shoe size.  His pants size.  How he gets his hair cut.

6.  He talks only about his favorite band, Journey.  Factoids about the singers, etc.  When I get in the car with him he turns on the same CD he's had in the car for 10 years.

It sound like he could be an Aspie.

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Re: What is this?
« Reply #3 on: May 14, 2012, 04:42:18 PM »
I thought that, too.  He can pull off some social interaction but not in HIS space.  He wants no one to come over and never goes with me to anything.
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Re: What is this?
« Reply #4 on: May 14, 2012, 06:20:37 PM »
It sound like he could be an Aspie.

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I agree.  General problems with social interaction. Problems with eye contact.  Inability to adjust voice levels.  Obsession with sometimes peculiar personal interests.  Focusing on one or a very few select people for relationship.  Talking almost entirely about himself.   It seems he shows many of the typical AS behaviors. 


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« Reply #5 on: May 14, 2012, 06:48:50 PM »
"I don't what the first five are about but this one seems not only to be grounds for divorce, but justifiable homicide to boot.

mud"


Okay, this cracks me up. Rarely do I expect to find humor on this page - but this one has me rolling in the aisles. Thanks so much!


I agree with Bones- sounds like Aspergers.

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« Reply #6 on: May 15, 2012, 08:00:43 AM »
It sound like he could be an Aspie.

Bones

I agree.  General problems with social interaction. Problems with eye contact.  Inability to adjust voice levels.  Obsession with sometimes peculiar personal interests.  Focusing on one or a very few select people for relationship.  Talking almost entirely about himself.   It seems he shows many of the typical AS behaviors. 



And, unfortunately, I do the same things.  Even though I have not been officially diagnosed, (due to the inability to find a professional who accepts my health insurance and is willing to conduct an assessment on a Senior Citizen), the pieces of the puzzle fit.

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Re: What is this?
« Reply #7 on: May 15, 2012, 08:16:21 AM »
I think it's also possibly NOT Asperger's. Unless he's always been this way. I agree with Mud about the Journey! Get him a Three Doors Down CD.

But it's definitely an indication that he's not comfortable with the other people around (how're his boundaries?), that somehow he expects you to put him at ease, and possibly he's simply looking for cues from you that he's "OK".
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« Reply #8 on: May 15, 2012, 09:15:35 AM »
He's not ok.  He is negative.  He huffs and puffs all the time.  My kids do not like him at all!  He is a drunk.  There are so many things that just bother me about him.  I want a divorce but do you know how stressful that is??  I have cancer and am changing my life completely to try to heal myself with alternative means as well as conventional.  I was wondering if you could hide out, only allow him to talk through your lawyer?
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« Reply #9 on: May 16, 2012, 02:25:11 AM »
1) Maybe he thought the dog didn't need to be trained by a "professional'? Maybe there is something about the dog trainer that was intimidating to him? The dog trainer was a "her"? Maybe he things males are supposed to be in charge--sometimes dogs appear like they prefer men over women or are more submissive to men. Maybe he had an issue with her femaleness? Maybe he thinks he could train the dog better than she can. Maybe he thought it was your hobby and not his hobby?

I find that most alcoholics like to feel that they can control other people. Maybe he is uncertain if he can "control" strangers so he doesn't want to interact with them?

2) He wants to be the center of attention?
3) He is exerting his importance over the grand-baby? "I don't have to be quiet because it all revolves around me"
4) Maybe back to 1), or maybe he is shy, or maybe he was an only child, maybe he sees the pool-people as your hobby?
5) ?? :(
6) ??  :( Maybe this is a strange self-soothing type ritual? Maybe something significant happened in his life when that music was popular. Maybe it makes him feel like a young stud to listen to Journey? Maybe he doesn't need variety.


I lived with a couple who rented out rooms in their house, they owned a lot of property in houses that they rented out to various people and maximized by building apartments into the basements etc. The woman would talk to the people and do all the coordinating the man would work on the houses. The guy was monosyllabic though. He was also an alcoholic. The only thing I ever heard him talk about in depth was soccer with other men. If people called the house he would utter "Hello, no, yes."" He would hang up without saying goodbye and he often looked at the phone like he had never seen one before??? He never cooked for himself. He never cleaned. NEVER. I think it was a chore for him to shower.  

My mother's husband is an alcoholic and I've only ever seen him enjoy talking to his son. He never tried to have a conversation with me, I don't see him speak very much to his own daughters. He likes to talk to certain guys. When he does talk it's rather ceremonious as if he has something wise to say--or like he is sure that his opinion is valued more than other's opinions. Maybe he only likes to talk to males that look up to him. He will discuss mundane stuff with my mother when company is around as if the company isn't there--it's because he would prefer that they are not there. He basically has a small world, watches television all day. He dislikes going to my mother's sisters house for Thanksgiving or Christmas but he does. It's an effort for him to be polite. He would rather watch TV, drink, have my mother cook for him, go kill some deer, go to gun shows...There are probably a lot of men that are like this? My mother thinks she is really lucky because she says he cleans up after himself.

You probably mean that you are just sick of his oddities and he is on your nerves because he isn't helping you enough or participating in your healing.

Sorry that he isn't being more supportive and on the same page with you.







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Re: What is this?
« Reply #10 on: May 16, 2012, 08:54:47 AM »
Some good points.  He gets anxious if he has to:

1.  Have anyone over at the house
2.  Go to the doctor
3.  Serve communion
4.  Take the dogs to the vet

He likes for me to go with him to the store.  I am on a roll doing whatever and he wants me to stop what I am doing and go with him.

He has NO idea about romance.  His way of letting me know he wants sex is, "Ya wanna do it?"  Show me his stuff.  Or walk in and raise his eyebrows a few times.  "Oh, I've been swept off my feet!"  I told him, try candles or doing something sweet.  So he comes in, raises his eyebrows, goes over to the candle and ceremoniously lights it.

It's just the ten years of Size 14 shoe talk, and size 38X36 pant talk, and what setting on the clipper to cut his hair.  It's the "shave off the go tee when he's had too much to drink"  ritual.

It's the knowing I am not supposed to touch cat litter when I am on chemo, but have to do it anyway because he won't do it thing.

It's the grabbing the garbage out of my hands when I have already walked all the way out the garage with it and am one foot from the trash can.  There, he emptied the garbage.

It's the not helping bring in the groceries but if he does he (again) takes them out of my hands after I am already in the kitchen.

I don't know, he is always a day late and a dollar short and he's also extremely boring and repetitive.  It irks me.
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Re: What is this?
« Reply #11 on: May 16, 2012, 11:56:30 AM »
Overcomer:

He sounds like he'd fall somewhere on the autism spectrum to me.

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« Reply #12 on: May 16, 2012, 12:28:39 PM »
I feel for you OC.  The list of Aspergerish behaviors keeps getting longer.   Somewhere along the line I read a comment that AS is the typical male personality taken to an extreme.   My grandfather, father, and brother all fit the profile to some extent.  There's very little recognition or validation of anybody outside themselves.  All they do is spin around in their own little "reality".  It might be more tolerable if it wasn't so dismissive of others.  They believe themselves superior to everybody else, maybe as compensation for feelings of inferiority.   Much of their interpersonal behavior seems to be a continuing attempt to prop up this self image.  

And growing up in a household with them drove me nuts.  At age 50 I feel like I'm still dealing with the effects of that environment.  

I suppose the question comes down to what you can live with.  Whether or not the H qualifies as officially having AS, the annoying behaviors probably aren't going away.  

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Re: What is this?
« Reply #13 on: May 20, 2012, 08:04:59 AM »
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Whether or not the H qualifies as officially having AS, the annoying behaviors probably aren't going away. 

S'truth! SL, what you say about AS being the extreme male personality... is kinda scary...

Kelly: I know what you mean about hubs' behavior being annoying and irksome. I'm gonna guess he doesn't realize how you perceive him. I've gone through something like this (repeatedly) with my hubs. At one point I realized I was part of the problem (may not apply to you) in that I wasn't communicating my feeling of "needing to be taken care" and expectation that he would obviously know this, from my increasing levels of agitation, withdrawal inwards, or rising anger and tendency to hurt myself.

Recognizing that I was trying to tell him all this "in code"... the old FOO code (which of course always failed my attempts to have my needs recognized)... I started to see the things that he does that irritated me, a little differently. He's trying to tell me (in his FOO language/code) that he needs "taken care of"... reassurance... support... whatever.

So, knowing sometimes I'm non-verbal (and comfortably so), I started playing around and making hand signals. It started out with "nibblies" - a signal that I was going to get a snack. Then, there was one for "snugglies"... and insanely, you have to look close because the 2 signals are very similar. But it's our own little private bubble of signals... he's got some for me, too...

and it seems to be helping alleviate a lot of the mis - or non-communication... and opening up a better space for us to co-exist in.
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