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Hopalong:
Hmm. I hadn't consciously parsed what I meant ...
but I guess I am thinking they have malignant intentions
toward YOU, which they have expresssed or would express in how
they relate to the children?

Meaning--I was figuring they do love their grandchildren.

That make sense?
Forgive my over-interpreting if I'm off base.

Hops

lighter:
Tupp:

I'm sad to hear there aren't any programs available for your son right now, but glad to read he's thriving at home with you. You're such a devoted mother, Tupp.  He's a lucky little man.

Hops:  I knew what you meant, and your thoughts make more sense than the facts involved.  Do the IL's want to do trauma to my children, as a priority?  I'm sure they don't...... do they see the children as extensions of me? 

I have no idea, and nothing to gain if it could be discerned.

Trauma to children is trauma, whether it's an unintended consequence, or their master plan.
Lighter

Hopalong:
I think you're right. I get it.
The trauma of being stirred up or manipulated by them not managing their toxic feelings would negate the gift of their loving-grandparent feelings.
It's all mixed together.

I hear you, mama tiger.

love
Hops

lighter:
Hi Hops:
They aren't really the loving grandparent sort.

It was more a matter of giving up hope they would be, rather than giving up the loving relationship we wished my children had with them.
Lighter

Twoapenny:

--- Quote from: lighter on November 06, 2014, 03:48:18 PM ---Tupp:

I'm sad to hear there aren't any programs available for your son right now, but glad to read he's thriving at home with you. You're such a devoted mother, Tupp.  He's a lucky little man.


--- End quote ---

There's very little in the UK that you don't have to pay for yourself; if you've got plenty of money then there's loads to do!  I am cherry picking the bits we need the most, paying for what I can, doing my best on the other stuff and trying to focus on today and not keep worrying endlessly into the future.  I find that hard; I've had to protect both of us for so long that it feels like a natural thing to keep building defences but I really want to change my mind set so that my default mode is that most people are okay and not too many are bad.  It's a big shift but I'm working on it.

I hope things are levelling out now for all of you and that you get some peace now, it's amazing how different life is when you're not fighting fires :)

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