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Dr. Richard Grossman

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Re: Therapy by text message?
« Reply #15 on: October 17, 2015, 12:48:55 PM »
Hi sea storm,

Thanks for your comment.  I very much appreciated and agreed with your thoughts.  You might enjoy my latest 10-minute play/comedy, “Dr. Frank, Therapy App” which addresses these very issues.  Your lines (above) spoken between the text-messaging therapist and patient could well have been included!

https://www.smashwords.com/books/view/559751

Richard

P.S.  BTW, I mailed the play to my 90-year-old father who was both the head of a research engineering lab and a psychoanalyst.  A perfect reader, IMO, given the particular themes!  He liked it “very much” and wanted to pass it along to other family members ;-)

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Re: Therapy by text message?
« Reply #16 on: October 19, 2015, 09:11:38 PM »
Thanks, tt!  I'm glad you enjoyed it.  As I've said before, you write beautifully and thoughtfully.  Have you ever taken any creative writing classes?  Perhaps the creative part is yet to be uncovered...

Richard

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Re: Therapy by text message?
« Reply #17 on: October 21, 2015, 08:18:32 AM »
I read your play and found it very intelligent and creative. I am not good at reading plays, seems I am lost without body language. Even though it would contribute to the trend to make people more generic and robotic, I think that a lot of people would really go for the counseling app. I guess that is why Dr. Phil did it. To me it is Orwellian creepy.

The father of the computer is an interesting guy who destroys his own best creation out of envy and competitiveness. Especially difficult to understand when the creator is a superbrain. There are some large issues there.  Can"t help but wonder about your father the engineer and psychoanalyst. I may be completely out of line but........
He is going to send it to members of the family....... Maybe it is all sweetness and light, hope so. He just might take it all personally.
I hope we are not conditoning people to completely avoid contact and use technology as a soother.

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Re: Therapy by text message?
« Reply #18 on: October 21, 2015, 11:12:51 PM »
Sorry.

I don't think I really understand the play. It made me think and struggle to understand it. I probably leaped to conclusions that were inappropriate. It is brave of you to share your play and thank you.

Sea

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Re: Therapy by text message?
« Reply #19 on: October 22, 2015, 10:55:43 AM »
Hi Sea,

No, you got it just right!  For me, the play addresses, in part, the issue of what is helpful in therapy, and why after all my psychoanalytic (and other) training (Harvard Medical/ Mass General Hospital post doc, etc.) in the end I rejected it viewing it more as religion than science.  Of course, as a naďve 23 year old, I expected to find the brightest people in the world at Mass General, and instead I found myself on a self-built lifeboat floating in a sea of narcissism and politics.  But I did what Timothy, the protagonist in my play does:  I fired Mass General, learned from the “bad” things and shaped my career, in part, around the horrors I found there.

Concerning my father, until the past decade he had little interest in my career.  (My mother wanted me to be a classics professor, so she never had any interest either.)  Neither went to any of my graduations my entire life.  I adapted to that very early—and I was always extremely independent (genetics from my mother—which I have passed on, for better and for worse, to my daughter).  So, their lack of interest never bothered me—I have always been my own best and worst judge.  Anyway, during the past decade, my father not only apologized to me for his lack of interest, but has told me he is very impressed/proud of what I have done in life, and certainly sees it as very unusual.  (Of course, when you are paying college tuition when you are in your 20’s—and it’s not for yourself, but for your kids, I suppose that is unusual!)   So, that’s a long (and partial) explanation as to why my father enjoyed the play and why he wanted others to read it.

Thanks so much for the read and all the thought that went into it,

Richard

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Re: Therapy by text message?
« Reply #20 on: October 23, 2015, 02:48:40 PM »
Thanks for your sincere and thoughtful reply. Intelligence doesn't seem to mean better parenting and more loving parents, just more complicated and ultimately confusing.
Your description of life in the higher spheres of medicine in a big bureaucracy are very familiar to me. Although i worked with highly intelligent specialists in their fields,it was the same knuckles dragging on the floor scramble for power. Primitive really and very sad state of affairs. I hope you weren't mauled too badly. i was. I had little idea about this kind of nimble tennis for big brains. Subtle and mean. Sooooooo counterproductiive.

The fact that you wrote a play is like a lovely trumpet singing through the dark night playing the high notes like light. Who cares if your dad approves. It is a good thing and good for you.

It is such a good thing that you are creating after being in the brain factory for so long.

I don't know how you managed to become an artist with the parents you had.  Says something good about the human spirit. Not to slag your parents but sound like they are a bit stiff and starchy.

I watched a great lecture on Japanese art live from Harvard.  I was so surprised when the brilliant, funny, caring professor asked the kids a question, they had nothing to say. Oh yes, they wanted to know about marks and inane stuff. Same as my university. They wanted to get an A. and were so preoccupied with that above all else.

Glad you got out of the major rat race. God knows, life is not about winning and there is no prize.

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Re: Therapy by text message?
« Reply #21 on: October 30, 2015, 04:35:41 PM »
Doc G.
I am personally verrrrrrrrrrrrry pissed at both your parents for never attending any of your graduations.

I will work on forgiving them.

Pfffft.

And now gonna go read this play.

Hops
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Re: Therapy by text message?
« Reply #22 on: October 30, 2015, 10:37:15 PM »
A side note. While I was browsing the internet yesterday an advert kept on coming up on my computer for a local health organization that is offering doctor appointments via skype.

Not sure how they do this, they can't really inspect the person, can't look in their throat or ears etc. I guess there must have been a lot of testing out the concept before they decided to actually do it. I just don't know how a doc can diagnose a person remotely I mean what if there is some underlying more complicated problem that doesn't get diagnosed quickly just because the patient was never really in a clinic.

Anywho. I guess it must work on some level.

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Re: Therapy by text message?
« Reply #23 on: October 31, 2015, 03:14:16 PM »
Hi Hops,

Thanks.  Certainly, by the time I reached high school, I had long ago accommodated my parents’ inattention.  As I have written here before, there were characteristics I had from birth that garnered a lot of adult attention growing up. That attention made up for much of what I did not get from my parents.   From the sixth grade on, some of my teachers were friends outside of the classroom.  It is no wonder to me that I married one of my graduate school professors, some 10 years my senior.  The age difference seemed perfectly normal to me.

My parents both led difficult lives each in their own way, and my mother did what she felt was right and useful in bringing us up—while at the same time feeling secretly angry from being deprived of a life in the arts.   They certainly didn’t abandon us, and they did the best they could.

So…when I reached the end of senior year, I skipped graduation altogether—much to the shock of my guidance counselor and others (they took it as an insult—I was going to be presented an award for being editor of the newspaper) and went backpacking in Italy (Florence and Venice), Greece (the Peloponnese), and Israel (working on a kibbutz for a month) with my brother and one of his friends.   We toured many of the ancient Greek ruins which I loved (hence the 10-minute play everyone except philosophy majors hated, “The Last Resort”), and on the kibbutz, going out to the fields on the Jordan River every morning to move water pipes and pick up spent rocket parts (at 3AM to avoid the heat)--I learned one Hebrew word:  shilshu (or something like that).  English translation:  diarrhea.

My mother hated staged ceremonies and holidays—the only time I called home on Mother’s Day was freshman year.  My dorm mates insisted, so we gathered around, and I picked up the phone and dialed.  My mother answered, I said “Happy Mother’s Day!”, and my mother replied “I think I’m going to vomit.”  Everyone burst out laughing—of course, no one understood or could believe what they heard—and I loved it!  What a great life story!

So, that’s the long, long way of saying I hope you’ll forgive my parents—and also the ways I am like especially, my mother.  Perhaps you should ask Micaela, my daughter, about those...

Richard