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sKePTiKal

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Re: End of the Road Farm
« Reply #270 on: October 17, 2018, 10:06:04 AM »
Well, so we're all back now. LOL. Guess our intuitions are pinging us about snow flying sooner rather than later this year. Another rainy spell meant we weren't going to get much done outside anyway and as far as wood, we're pretty well set. I have double what I had last year, split & stacked - courtesy of my workaholic D. I just need to spend a few hours for a couple days splitting kindling now, but that's a good way to work off restless energy.

The trip was a form of "knitting" too. Holly hadn't been to the shop since she was in Grade School. She got to put faces to names, and the meeting with Kelly and the lawyer was useful. She also hadn't seen my mom or bro in years & years either. And we had plenty of driving time and downtime to just be together somewhere new. Knuckles showed off on the beach at Lake MI, just how stick obsessed he is. LOL. Still, parts of it felt like an ordeal.

Both Hol & I have suffered from others imposing their wishes upon us about words, behavior, etc... and tend to "forget" and do the same thing to each other. It is the main point of friction, some days. We've parsed & deconstructed this & accepted our own mistakes and participation in those situations. Hours and hours of talking about it... diving deep into our own feelings and trying to explain (since no one can truly FEEL how another feels)... and scouting out comfortable boundaries about it. Conditioning, reflex, reaction, all that stuff that is engraved on our neural pathways from experience... and both of our paths/progress trying to manage it successfully to suit ourselves and not be a PITA to other people around us.

Our paths are different, because we didn't experience exactly the same real conditions - but the "pattern" is familiar to each of us and similar. There are angry words, when the emotional lizard brains get engaged... and it clears the air... and we CAN go on from that point with the clarification of boundary lines again. I just get frustrated at having to go through the same conversation, the same explanation of pointing out the differences between us and our paths for reconciling ourselves to the "content" and "context" of our life experiences. And she keeps trying to sledgehammer down my rock-solid choices -- which may be defenses, as she claims; but she's also not giving me credit for having tried things and not liking them... leading to my choices. I didn't just unconsciously "flee" to the woods and a slow pace and quiet life as a "reaction" to anything.

So, it's the choice itself that she find incomprehensible - because we are different. LOL. I have yet to explain Hops' theory of N-spots... but I can already see that it will get brought up and probably apply to both of us. And that's OK.

We had dinner with my long-time BFF and she was commenting how much like me, Hol is. Yes -- and no. The differences are strikingly important. And are natural, "right", and the way things should be. She is NOT a mini-me... and I would never want her to be. On the other hand, the number of times we dress exactly the same or the same words come out of our mouths... LOL. V did do a lot of defending me, and why I chose what I did. I think, the salient point Hol isn't able to grok yet is age-related; phase of life. And she has a lot of fear surrounding the slow realization of just what that consists of for me - and WHY.

Since she's 40 - footloose & fancy-free - and physically in great shape, her path and choices right now are going to be different from mine. More power to her! It's a great opportunity to intentionally re-evaluate and reflect on her choices... and I don't need to be involved in that design process. Sure, I want & need some things too. I'm not falling back into "mom will take care of everything and you too" mode. She has rebounded from the whole Matt thing pretty strongly - but not in a flailing sort of way - and has (I think) pretty quickly transitioned into the "What am I, who am I, where am I going NOW" phase. She can dive deep into those intense feelings - and that scares everyone but me; but she doesn't spend a LOT of time there. She does it; puts in a chapter of the past... and keeps on truckin'. Her ability to process all that quickly is formidable and impressive.

I tend to be like a dog with a bone, chewing on it from all angles... revisiting... until dammit, I'm sick & tired of it. Then I go do something else that to the outside world looks like it came out of the blue. Oh well. We aren't clones of each other... no matter how much we can see ourselves in other people.

So whether her decision to make the farm her "headquarters" long-term - with extended trips away for work & life works or not... the critical functional piece of that, is our individual independence and acceptance of each other. And both us learning not to be so danged sensitive and taking things so personally. LOL. There is deep understanding of the other outside of words... and she truly NEEDS to experience that right now. It's like her armor, that makes her the force of nature that she is. And she's starting to "get me", too.

So it's all good.

Going to have a crazy busy week next week - between projects, appts, her work, and a girl's night out we cooked up with her girlfriends who were here a few weeks ago. It's going to stretch my comfort zone, to go into DC for a concert somewhere I've not been before - late at night. But, I have been to many a concert - in a number of different situations and there will 4 of us crazy, independent, strong ladies. The crowds will part for us, I'm sure. LOL. Going to go see Nick Cave!  I know more of his old stuff... so I'm really interested to hear the new. Ticket prices weren't astronomical either; and it's a "small hall" situation... not one of the huge concerts. So, we'll see if an old lady can still hang.
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Re: End of the Road Farm
« Reply #271 on: October 17, 2018, 11:23:23 AM »
I'm guessing you'll "hang" just fine.  Getting tired, and yearning for your bed isn't failing, btw.  It's a reason to take two cars, or agree bar hopping won't be expected after the concert, kwim?

You sound good, Amber.  Welcome back.

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« Reply #272 on: October 18, 2018, 02:08:34 PM »
Skep you are endlessly busy as usual, I'm always shattered just reading how much you do!  And Nick Cave!  I love him but have never been to see him live - I can only imagine he's astonishingly good :)  Such an amazing talent, be sure to drink it all in! xx

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« Reply #273 on: October 18, 2018, 05:38:32 PM »
Thanks guys... you know, right, that all kinds of reasons why I can't go - shouldn't attempt it even - pop up in my head all the time? Right?

Hol thinks when I bring it up, that I'm making excuses not to go... but I'm GOING, in spite of those "reasons". Been listening to this guy's music for 20 years. Hol's friend just went ahead and bought tickets; and I think we're going to have a great time. :P on my stupid mental tapes.
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Re: End of the Road Farm
« Reply #274 on: October 18, 2018, 08:48:27 PM »
Is it time for me to admit I don't know this singer?

 :shock:

Boy, I am oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooold....

So I'll hit up a YouTube of him in y'all's honor!

Have fun hon,
Hops
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« Reply #275 on: October 19, 2018, 08:40:17 AM »
My favorite one Hops: is "Into My Arms". He isn't for the faint of heart, that's for sure. But this song is simple, poetic, and for me, meaningful. Other music by him is angry, testosterone-laden, and slightly bizarre. Think Lou Reed meets the Doors and Rage Against the Machine.

Frost on the field this morning. Winter is descending like a soft but persistant cloud of fog.... and I'm already turning to head-centered interests/pursuits that don't matter to anyone in the real world. LOL.

Saw an interesting Netflix series; 10 episodes. "The Haunting of Hill House". It's only part, classic haunted house story. The other part is resolution of dysfunctional family issues... which doesn't happen until the last episode. I've seen that one twice and bawled both times. Holly didn't like the ending. I won't spoil it for anyone past saying that much.
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« Reply #276 on: October 24, 2018, 07:10:31 AM »
I marathon sprinted through the last 6 episodes of Hill House, and thought it was really good, up till the ending. I didn't see the first episodes, so that have changed how I feel about it.

I agree with Holly.  It's not the ending I would have chosen. 

It was full of jump scares, some really good ones, and I screamed LOUD during one of the last ones.  OMG.

I have to say..... consistently choosing "lets split up" in a haunted house never works out well, does it?

I'm glad you liked the ending, Amber. 

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« Reply #277 on: October 24, 2018, 09:36:26 AM »
I guess I saw a lot of connection in the ending with the grief cycle, relationships, fear vs love, courage, and the fact that no matter how hard we work - we simply aren't EVER going to know EVERYTHING about EVERYTHING. Life remains mysterious and surprising and scary and even rewarding... in ways we can't predict.

And I LIKE that.  ;)

No one "right" way to be... no absolute "perfection" of the human condition... we're ALL different people... each unique, valuable, and enjoyable - or difficult - in our peculiar way.

The busy-ness of this week continues. So it's time to do, and reflection will come later.
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« Reply #278 on: October 27, 2018, 09:27:31 AM »
Yeah, so the old lady can still hang. I was still awake when we got home at 3 am. Still mostly sober too. Holly turned around and drove to B'more to work - so she was 48 hrs without sleep. My friend Deb showed and first off, announced she was exhausted! So, the old ladies crashed about an hour before Holly did - she was letting the excess coffee jitters wear off.

I can now resume my usual winter planning, thinking up things, and designing the farm phase. More soon....
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Re: End of the Road Farm
« Reply #279 on: October 28, 2018, 08:55:15 AM »
Sounds like this is a creative time of year for you, ((((Amber)))).

I often think of you as the polar opposite of me in terms of productivity.
It honestly astonishes me how much you do and how you approach it.

I'm regularly inspired by you (and everyone here) in the struggle to
overcome intertia.

Hope the fall brings you incredible leaves, amazing sunsets and
new friends.

Do you see a big swatch of sky from your porch. One of the best
things I love about being in the mountains is the lack of light pollution
and the huge expanses of sky. Have a little bit of that even here, as
my street's up on a ridge. Clouds are amazing. But where you are,
they must be even more gorgeous.

hugs
Hops
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Re: End of the Road Farm
« Reply #280 on: October 28, 2018, 11:30:41 AM »
Hops, it's not that I have that much energy or will or drive to do. There are plenty of "slug" days for me, too.

But I've been focusing more on "what it is I want" - and when there's no one offering to do it for me (I don't want to be that dependent ANYWAY) - I just start doing and if it all gets done, excellent. If it doesn't - tomorrow is another day. Too often, Holly will volunteer to choose something off my list that I can absolutely do myself - but she can do it faster. I've been kinda standing aside, because the physical work helps her. But I'll be starting to split kindling again - almost time to fire up the woodstoves.

Going to that concert was a sacrifice - for both Hol & I. She worked without sleep the night before because she had to drive me home - went to work (and it was a very difficult day even though her job itself wasn't hard at all) and then drove home for the weekend. It's a long story and it's a dang good thing my hair can't get any whiter. We're both in "rest & recover" mode. This movie will wrap filming in the middle of Nov. and she'll have to stay there and work a 9 day stretch toward the end.

It's almost holiday season, too. And I'm feeling like I want to shake things up and do something different this year. So.... thinking on it and looking around.
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Re: End of the Road Farm
« Reply #281 on: October 28, 2018, 12:13:15 PM »
Are there any new, clear options, you're considering, Amber?

For holiday choices?

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« Reply #282 on: October 31, 2018, 09:38:28 AM »
Lighter I have no idea about the holidays right now... except that with dealing with so much change the last few years, and this year in particular with Holly moving in... Mike's D, Autumn & the littles (who aren't so little anymore) being so busy that even though we're close now - we see less of them... all the rhythms are different, so I'm thinking how we go about the holidays needs to adapt again too.

Holly might be sailing in December again; she was asked to at any rate. She hasn't decided yet, since there would only be a week after wrapping this movie and when they'd need to take off... and it's right after Thanksgiving.

She is concerned that I don't do enough "fun" stuff. And I don't think our definition of "fun" is the same. I enjoyed the Nick Cave concert. But, getting home at 3 am was really pushing my limits of endurance. My BP the next day was way high; yesterday's was back to it's "normal" again... which is low enough that it's not going to prompt any Rx prescriptions or recommendations.

I catch her doing some "projecting" too. And there are other things, she's trying to "edit" about me... through discussion that are prompting me to ask some questions of myself -- and may have me calling her out on her own internal work, too. But I've put that on a back burner for the time being. We have work to do! And winter is coming.

I FINALLY have the power hooked up in the barn - that opens up a list of things that have been "waiting" for that, to get done. Ricky's been working down the new path for the end of the driveway and I'm thinking about how I'm going to "finish" that - with a gate, etc. He & Ronnie have also asked if it's OK for Ric to make a path up the back ridge for Ronnie to get up there to his blind, with a side by side, like mine.

I've been too busy to get into my office and start pulling it together/organizing/setting up computer & radio equipment... files... I've ordered new furniture for the "bunkroom" - and the auction folks have picked up most of the furniture that I "made do" with when I moved in. Minus a file cabinet that I forgot to have them load. The medical appts kept me busy - away from here, too.

October's calendar page looks worse than what I used to schedule at my old job! Jam-packed full of go here, do this, etc. I fully intend to just SLOW DOWN back to my accustomed pace... and if Hol gets too bored or restless... I'll enjoy the solitude, while she's off filling her experience with crap I couldn't care less about. LOL.
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Re: End of the Road Farm
« Reply #283 on: October 31, 2018, 06:21:23 PM »
Wow. First mention of the Hellydays. I may disappear but I'll be back in January!

Amber, what a solid meaningful full productive challenging and interesting life you're living!

That's all I got at the moment but it's lovely to contemplate.

Big hugs,
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« Reply #284 on: November 01, 2018, 08:26:22 AM »
Yeah Hops. I know all about the holiday-crap. I think that's why I've always tried to shake things up and do strange, unusual, more FUN things around that time. Take the old feelings about it, and shake the living hell out them in front of societal "expectations" and "norms".

The last couple have been REALLY quiet around here; Hol & Matt came to the beach and it was WARM there that year; the first year after Mike died. Autumn - Mike's D - got the day wrong last year and showed up with the kids early. LOL.

Hol is used to very wacky takes on the holidays. She was there the year we potted a brussel sprout and made it the tree. She got her own wheel of baby swiss cheese that year. And since her birthday is the week after Christmas... we haven't ever been hung up on a special "day" to get together. That's real helpful when kids have multiple sets of parents/grandparents to deal with. So I have my thinking cap on NOW because we'll both end up being homebodies a lot this winter, if the weather forecasts are correct. Might as well GO somewhere; do something totally different. I'm just waiting to hear what she's decided about sailing most of December.

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