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Mindfulness and codependence thread
Hopalong:
What a great service you did her, Lighter!
Reintroducing joy, self esteem, etc.
Bravoooo!
hugs
Hops
lighter:
Thanks, Amber. I think having several hours, away, did her as much good as having her (naughty self care) suspicious validated....celebrated, even.
I'll take her to lunch soon. The weather is perfect for another outdoor patio meal, and she's looking like she needs a bucking up.
The oil pulling is decidedly a once a day or every two days practice. Daily, now, with mornings the chosen time. Will begin melting the solid coconut oil first, as I'm tempted to chew and swallow, like a child. It's almost like candy, tastes so good.
Lighter
Hopalong:
Hops here. And you're welcome.
LOL.
Very cool story and feminist me was sooo glad to read it.
hugs
Hops
PS You might find this podcast very interesting, especially about halfway through when she talks about codependency, and the culture that made it so powerful.
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/08/23/magazine/jen-hatmaker-interview.html#commentsContainer
lighter:
Raising up children.....whew boy.
Surprisingly, my girls have responded positively to my requests to show me how they clean. Youngest cleans like me. Oldest reads instructions, on cleaning bottles, and follows instructions, which is so HER.
I have yet to ask the boyfriend, but intend to. Soon.
The next meal planning session, we'll attack shopping, cooking and cleaning duties. Oldest DD on board and made the suggestion. Wonderful!
Youngest DD helping me split drapery panels, run through sewing machine and iron. Soon, we'll go to lake and finish wedding venue website and photos.
I notice snark, rise up from my gut, and threaten to snurl up my face, which I try to avoid. Would wedding pictures, featuring a 50ish yo man, marrying a 23yo be more enticing to the male customers?
We NEED laws limiting the age for child marriages, bc men
WANT
TO
MARRY
CHILDREN.
Godnabbit.
WTAF?
::smoothing shirt::.
And.....men.....
I'm, alarmingly, not identifying many allies, if I'm being honest. I have compassion for them. Truly, I do.
I have more compassion, for the vulnerable people's, they're driven to prey on. Always have. It's a quirk of mine.
Ahem.
So photographer is getting lined up. I'll likely pay the contractor's (attractive in a Southern country boy way)stepson to pose for photos, if his adorable wife allows it. She might not. We are in the Southern country side.
Eh....will work out.
Youngest dd's cute high school friend, is back in contact with her, bc, as she predicted..... he's going through a bad break up. He'd be a very good groom, but DD insists it would be a bad idea. I see that now.
Yes, of course. How silly of me to need something. How silly of me to expect to pay for a man's time, and get a job done, sans emotional blowback, turmoil and perhaps worse. Silly. Heavens. Imagine! Even the suggestion.
Somehow, I imagine an old guy marrying a young woman would go over better than an interracial couple, which wouldn't create too much insanity with the guy we could line up. Picture Prince, but more of a pirate.....if that's possible?
I blame anxious attachment styles, in this moment. It's esp upsetting bc we're (girls and I) more avoidant, yup yup yup. For us, men equal drama, upset and danger..... it's pretty clear, by now. Any involvement will cost us some insane price.....juice not worth the squeeze? Traditionally, for 2 of us. Ya.
Oldest DD's relationship tbd.
I never wanted to raise sons...... haven't spent much time thinking about where we've gone wrong. We have gone wrong. I have to look at it now. Try to decipher and calculate routes to calmer streams. Male drama, and mental health crisis is unbearable, at this point. For me. Keeping my yap shut, almost impossible. Sucking it up, biting back truths, in order to calm and placate Krazy......would likely pop an artery, for sure. I don't intend to put that strain on'me systems, nope nope nope.
I want to train my girls into calling,all people's, on their bs. Proactively and decisively. I've heard oldest DD doing it with her bf. We'll build on that.
This post took a weird turn, but I'm half surprised, as I spent an hour talking to a recovering addict last night.....seems his wife is angry he had "a few beers" to take the edge off his stress.
Then the story shifted to "a couple shots of peach whiskey" hmmmmm.
I, maddeningly, pussy footed around, which is to say, I said what needed saying, but in the way Hops used to say things on the board.....with endless compassion, patience and refusal to vary that delivery....but also so very frustrating.....for me.
"Can you think of a reason your wife would be angry/alarmed/skeptical/terrified of your drinking, as a recovering addict?" Ummmm.....he knows. His defensive 12yo part, looking for reasons to drink, doesn't want to admit it, but, some part of him, knows.
Choices.
Blow up your family OR not blow up your family. Hmmmm....what to do, what to do?
Anyhow, dd's cute, but emotionally unstable guy friend appears to be tying himself to his ex gf by taking out a loan for her car. He will collect her payment, read that as hold it over her head to keep contact, and I realize.....I don't want to spend another minute thinking about his bad, terrible, worse choices in the universe. I don't.
I'll be curious to see if she puts him down, like she did with her ex bf. With finality and grace. Just .....turn away, with compassion. And acceptance. No regrets. Giving up on people is ok, yup yup yup. Can't save them from themselves, nope nope nope.
We, all three of us gals, share the "gift" of patience, but once we're done ..... we're done.
I wonder, if my patience, will ebb down to a man sized dram.
Social lubricant be damned. Time for more "something new ."
Lighter
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