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Mindfulness and codependence thread
Twoapenny:
--- Quote from: lighter on March 25, 2020, 02:17:24 PM ---Appointment with T today a good one.
It's difficult to widen one's gaze to the point of BEING the sky watching clouds go by.
It comes and goes. Main message....
just let the clouds be.....
just let it be.
Breathe.
The mind wants to work on those things and will IF we allow it..
like a self-cleaning oven....
the clouds will turn to mist and be gone.
Refusing to give our attention to the worrisome things means we free our minds up to focus on being present....breathing... allowing the brain to function as it was meant to.
Looking down on the world and what we label as good and bad gives us the ability to just notice them without judgment, which is really really REALLY hard sometimes for me.
I understand latching onto the negative/evil/bad stories means we're less capable of responding. This I understand. This makes sense.
The world will always have light and dark. There can be no other way. Accepting that, accepting we can't control or change it..... learning to change the way we see it is all we can do and that brings more peace and happiness in our consciousness. More peace and happiness in one person's consciousness is a part of everything... we aren't separate.
It's not easy to keep this in focus but...
all we can do is work on ourselves and internal worlds.
I asked about the Tibetan idea of the afterlife and there was much about hot boiling caldrons of oil, and of being beaten BEFORE suffering the hot cauldron of oil, and many many levels of torment and punishment that did go on. At some point we talked about the hells on earth. I'm still not clear on the original question and answers but am positive the amazing feeling of dropping into awareness..... of the joy and smiles it brings to my face, is something I wish to expand on and cultivate, particularly during this time.
I can do THAT.
I have a couple of books I plan to get to... Budhha brain being one.
T saw the yard and what I work on.... she didn't realize the yard is all moss, every inch of it. One of my favorite things in the yard is cleaning up edges and borders. Today is sunny and mild and breezy and THAT's what I'm going to do for a couple hours..... I consider it a treat.
Lighter
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I'm glad it was a good appointment, Lighter, and that the moss is there for you as well :) The thing I find difficult about the bad news stories at a time like this is that information - essential information - is despatched through the media. So there's much sifting through 'stuff' to find out what you need to know. I really think our twattish government (and I suspect the same for you over there) - should have been delivering clear, fact based statements with clear instructions of what to do, when to do it and how. But they've been running behind the situation the whole time so people have been frantically scanning papers and watching the news just trying to find out what to do. And of course they've had to read so much horrifying stuff in the meantime. Crazy situations. But I suspect we're all at a point now where we've done as much as we can and we're now just in a position to wait it out - which means lots of time for clouds and moss, I guess :) xx
Hopalong:
--- Quote ---I understand latching onto the negative/evil/bad stories means we're less capable of responding. This I understand. This makes sense.
--- End quote ---
I didn't think this referred to coronavirus, but to the Contractor!
But it's a very important understanding. About one's "latching on." Gives your power back.
Yay...off to Zoom with a friend...
xxx
L
lighter:
It's everything, Hops.
Lighter
lighter:
Renter on the island saying they can't fish and have no money for stores. That's crazy, bc people can fish while staying 6 feet apart. Why are they forbidding hungry people from harvesting fish?
I texted cottage housekeeper to take all the canned and dry goods to help get them through... give some to renter if he's hungry. I don't honestly know what's in the cabinets now. drawer full of gf pastas and some good indian spices. I know there's fresh veggies, cheese and butter.... fruit, so that will be nice. I paid housekeeper ahead 3 cleanings and am happy about that.
I got up this morning and had the house to myself, which was good. The groceries came and I disinfected the frozen stuff with wipes and placed most of the other stuff in the big truck, set the ozone machine for 80 minutes and it's working now.... there were distractions and I was in the zone.
I'm snuggled in with oldest dd19 and baby girl pug... (BGP).... trying to write
a note on Nono's memorial page. I've started many times. It's hard. It makes my chest hurt.
The day is warm..... very sunny. I want fresh herbs growing in the porch again.
Lighter
Hopalong:
Hi Lighter,
I worry, because ozone generators are dangerous (banned in some states) and can harm the lining of your lungs. From what I've read...the only issue with groceries, packages etc,--is to simply disinfect by wiping them down, to be thorough.
That just takes any solution on a paper towel with 60% alcohol or another disinfectant like Lysol spray. Either type works equally. Forgive, but I Google everything. And only trust "dot.gov, dot.edu, and dot.org" sources. "Dot.COM means...dot-want-money."
Locking things in a truck with an ozone generator on...? I've read for many hours and have not come across anyone else recommending ozone magic. If it were that effective and practical against coronaviruses on surfaces or grocery bags, it'd be in headlines.
So go for it, if it's what you have evidence for. Just saying, so far every single authoritative article I've read on what to do, makes zero mention of ozone machines.
Be well I just hope is you won't be magical. Just follow the same old specific advice that every expert with advanced knowledge of infectious disease is giving. Widely. There ISN'T a special alternative-med, alternative-tech secret out there. There's no special secret. It's all the same advice/protection for all humans now...what works.
If your ozone generator could be guaranteed to kill Covid19 just by ozonating the air, bravo! But a blast of ozone in your own chest isn't good....and the evidence there is (not much) is more about ozone generation in air systems to kill pollutants. Not a never-before-seen virus that's sticking to surfaces. I certainly could be wrong...but...
From a NYPost article on coronavirus MYTHS:
False
The non-FDA-approved germicide, which uses the main component in smog to kill disease, is touted as a cheap cure for viruses including, more recently, the coronavirus. But there’s no such thing as a free lunch. Ozone purifiers create serious health risks — including lung and cellular damage — for humans and animals and have been banned in places such as California for this reason.
“It is one of the products where the risks heavily outweigh the benefits,” Jason Chan, an assistant professor in science education at the Hong Kong University of Science and Technology, told Quartz.
(I Googled because you kept mentioning it, and I worry that you've bought into some special-sauce hype somewhere. I just can't find any real recommendation for ozone-purifying packages, other than from people who profit from selling these machines....)
If I'm wrong I welcome learning so! I admire your efforts to do all you can, Lighter.
hugs
Hops
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