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Hopalong:
New concern about whether the vaccinated are actually protected against the Delta variant...(It was Israel that spotted the heart stuff, so I'm paying attention!).
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/covid-19-delta-infecting-vaccinated-in-israel_n_60d6661ce4b066ff5aba8faa?utm_source=spotim&utm_medium=spotim_recirculation
I think full lockdown and a terrible rise in Covid (Delta) are on their widespread way, unfortunately. I so wish the whole world would just roll up its sleeves immediately and get the jabs as soon as they're available.
Tragic what's about to hit in fall, I'm thinking. I'm glad many had a year to practice quarantining, because the vaccine plus masking and distancing are the only things that keep us safe when it's on the rise.
Just heard on the news that the Delta variant is 100% more transmissable (and a lot more severe) than "original" Covid and that basically all Covid cases now are among the unvaccinated. I cannot imagine what it'll be like when Delta explodes if people don't make the choice...they also said we have two weeks here before the Delta is the dominant strain in the U.S. TWO WEEKS.
Sighs and hugs,
Hops
Twoapenny:
It's interesting how the information is different on each side of the pond, over here we've been told from the outset that being vaccinated won't stop you catching it and only reduces your chances of being seriously ill from it. About a third of current deaths here are in vaccinated people - I read something yesterday that said basically if you're 80 and vaccinated then your risk from catching it is about the same as an unvaccinated 50 year old. I've not found data yet on how people with learning disabilities are doing now they've been vaccinated; I'd like to see some info about that but I haven't been brave enough to venture on to Twitter to hunt it down :) We're just carrying on with masks and distance as much as possible.
Hopalong:
Sure is different.
I'd love to see that article saying vaxxed 80 y/o's are as protected as unvaxxed 50's. Oy. Defenintely not the vax message I've taken in so far.
I think there's a lot of denial here. Both of how different/dangerous the Delta is, and of how the vax does save lives of course--but it's not perfect protection and therefore skipping around going la la la it's all over let's French kiss might not be the best reaction. Oh, humans! Americans seem to deal more in absolutes, I think, or black and white thinking.
I'm with you, hunker down and heads up.
hugs
Hops
Twoapenny:
It's this one, Hopsie, the age bit is about half way down:
https://www.theguardian.com/theobserver/commentisfree/2021/jun/27/why-most-people-who-now-die-with-covid-have-been-vaccinated
It is all very confusing, but then I suppose the situation is changing almost daily and there is an overlap between fact and opinion and/or best guess kind of information. What I've taken it all to mean is that our risk factor is lower, but it's still there (and I still don't fancy catching it however low the risk is!) xx
Hopalong:
Yup, more nuance.
Although the stat does include that 40% of them only had one jab...sheesh. Though it was specific to the U.K. it's probably going to be the same outcome here.
Yup, it's just not black and white. Dangerous virus out there so behaviors are the greatest protection for all. If we just don't physically breathe it in, that's safety. (Hard to do in cities and crowded areas, but hooray masks.)
I still have a stash of the unbreathable N-95s and loads of the simple ones, so I'll make sure I keep both on hand.
Still enjoying this golden summer of freedom and outdoors and hugs in fully-vaccinated small gatherings -- the threat of the Delta makes in poignantly sweeter.
Thanks, Tupp...I love the Guardian but this one didn't pop up in the US edition today.
hugs
Hops
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