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Hopalong:
Here's clear, specific info on receiving deliveries and/or grocery shopping.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/03/26/dont-panic-about-shopping-getting-delivery-or-accepting-packages/
Twoapenny:
--- Quote from: lighter on March 25, 2020, 11:05:40 AM ---Lord, YES to keeping a his and her residence, Hops.
Especially when one has really BIG energy and the other more subtle.
So glad you're back in victuals, Tupp.
So far I've made a big pot of ham and bean soup.... so comforting.... a large pot of spaghetti sauce with pork (Italians would call it pork salsa) and we make a daily pot of rice in the rice cooker.
I haven't had Tupp's surge of lightness and energy.... I thought I would, but I distinctly do not. Yesterday was better... just cleaning a bathroom and the kitchen left me feeling much better this morning, though I woke with a stitch in the back of my neck.
I see the vet tech student posted her services to the neighborhood board. I'm trying to figure out how to suit her up and me, while we work on baby girl pug together. DIY taped masks and splash guards won't be 100% but they'll get me through 5 minutes of very close contact, or so I figure. I know I won't be breathing someone else's air back and forth with nothing between us. Gloves will go in a bag outside.
CB: The pie baking and mindful enjoyment of food was nice to read. It turned my attention to being more intentional around it too.
Lighter
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Lighter, to be safe you need to hand pug over at the door of the vet and then go and wait in the car. Paper masks don't offer protection because they don't filter the particles out. You need specialist medical masks for that, even standard surgery masks don't do the job. I can send you some links for info if you want. Safer to hand pug over, let them do what they need to do (they will follow impeccable standards at a vet, I would imagine) and then they can meet you at the door again to hand her back. No close contact is safe, however brief. Even fully masked, gowned, hygiene savvy medical staff are falling ill here, one nurse has died. It's not breathing someone else's air that's the problem, it's the particles in the air that matter and you need specialist masks to stop those getting through. Doesn't matter how brief the contact is. Honestly, you have three kids at home all depending on you, please don't think paper masks will protect you, even for a short time. Keep safe and well, we need cooking and moss updates regularly :) xx xx
Hopalong:
Thanks for asking, Tupp. I have several "phone-in" appointments where I put the thingie on my chest and it electronically sends in a data summary to the hospital. I won't have an in-person followup for months, so hopefully the surge will have crested by then. Not looking forward to going in, but if I stay healthy, all will be well.
Amber, I agree with you about catastrophizing, and feeding fear, and focusing on the scariest anecdotes. I have to skip over that tone sometimes because it feeds my own fear furnace. That said, I also have a craving for information from reliable sources (not social media or rumor or someone-who-knows-someone, kind of thing).
Lighter, the risk is quite high for younger people too, and if you read about people in the ICU and on ventilators, cardiac arrest doesn't seem a strange outcome. If you want to contemplate it (I almost wish I had NOT read this but have a drive for evidence):
https://www.propublica.org/article/a-medical-worker-describes--terrifying-lung-failure-from-covid19-even-in-his-young-patients
My advice to anybody about that article is to carefully consider your mental well being.
Hugs
Hops
Twoapenny:
--- Quote from: CB123 on March 23, 2020, 09:33:49 PM ---That feeling of disbelief when you realize your kids aren't going to make the cut. It will cut your legs out from under you--I know it well.
My kids have each taken a turn melting down, but then work their way through it. I hate it that they are so far away.
I am checking the food deliveries every day, like Hops suggested. I just order what is available, a small amount and accept their substitutions. If there's nothing there I need, I check again the next day. Its harrowing, but I have some back stock. It's got to be worse if you have only one days worth. Call you call a relief agency or charity? Check restaurants--the ones around here sold off their coolers full of food at a cheap rate. One place made a box with a whole chicken, rice, eggs, milk some vegetables and a roll of toilet paper (I think that might be an attempt at humor, or maybe just total graciousness) I'll bet there are some in your area.
The problem is it takes so much time to do this kind of searching. I figured out that if I had bread, milk and eggs as a basis I would be okay. Rolled oats is in that category too. I so wish I could help. We are in the same place in the US except there's no one in charge at the helm so in a while our country is going to be very sick.
CB
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It's horrible, isn't it CB - they're so undervalued and we're often too wiped out from all the running about to launch that major campaign that's needed to change that perception! Son is oblivious to that part of it; he does understand that it can make you ill enough to die and he's very happy indoors so we're just going nowhere. I'm happy indoors as well so it's working well for us at the minute.
The food crisis is averted now, the panic buying just wiped all the supermarkets out and they were trying to catch up for days afterwards. There are still lots of problems with deliveries but they've put us on a priority list now and I will look to put the order in sooner than I usually would so that will be fine. Local people have organised food collections for people who can't get out so I can even just get a pint of milk picked up for me now which is great. But yes, it's the time of trying to organise, arrange, collect it (or sit on the phone or computer for hours trying to get it to go through) and that extra stress of knowing you can't pop out for something if you forget to order it. Just was all a bit too much all at once. But all grand now :) I hope you and yours are managing okay, it's such an unprecedented situation, isn't it? xx
lighter:
My niece arrived in Florida today. They went to her favorite grocery store to find it fully stocked, clean and very much a comfort after the island's tiny markets.
That was a good thing to hear about Florida right now.
Lighter
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