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Coronavirus
sKePTiKal:
I am just so sorry that so many people are scared. I don't know what to say.
They might get sick; but that sounds uncaring. Which wouldn't be true. And they might have worse than just the flu-sick that make one feel horrible. Something that requires hospitalization.
I am sorry for the people who are sick. I can't make the system any better. No one listens to me. Politics is NOT the answer. But again - no one listens to me.
This is hard. It's hitting home for us. Six degrees of separation. Hol's close friends; Buck''s D. And Amy - an EMS on a medical transport. Mike's D is an ICU/trauma/ER nurse.
Rehydration is more than water; Add honey, potassium, and calcium. However you can. Hydration is necessary with a fever. So is cooling body temp. The season is such right now that a walk outside can counter that.
Good stuff in; bad stuff out, Think outside the box.
Hopalong:
So hope everyone will read this article to the end. It isn't long.
https://www.npr.org/2020/03/24/820601571/all-of-this-panic-could-have-been-prevented-author-max-brooks-on-covid-19
hugs
Hops
Twoapenny:
--- Quote from: Hopalong on March 27, 2020, 11:31:47 AM ---So hope everyone will read this article to the end. It isn't long.
https://www.npr.org/2020/03/24/820601571/all-of-this-panic-could-have-been-prevented-author-max-brooks-on-covid-19
hugs
Hops
--- End quote ---
Yes, all the way through, Hops, same situation here. The World Health Organisation warned this was going to go global in January, if memory serves, and I believe the first case was documented last November? It would have been possible here to stop any non-essential travel in and out of the country and to quarantine/test everyone coming in for as long as this goes on. Inconvenient for some, yes, and out of pocket for some as well, but a relatively small number of people compared to the millions being affected now. They could have, and should have had plans A, B and C in place so they could respond quickly to an outbreak, but instead people have had to rely on Facebook to figure out what to do and then just go for it as best they can - which of course, for some, means buying everything in sight, and for others means carrying on doing what they do, even if they don't need to. Our government have literally made it up as they went along and as each announcement creates and outcry, they go off and change the policy again. They sought to protect corporate interests, essentially and on top of that, we have a hideously untrustworthy media and horribly untrustworthy politicians. So loads of people ignored advice to stay indoors as much as possible because they thought it was just media hype (as I did when I first heard it all because it's the kind of trumped up nonsense they do). It has shown every flaw in our global function, I think, and I am really hoping this brings about real, positive change now that people have seen how we really all need to work with each other instead of against each other all the time. The biggest problem we have, I feel, is the number of people in positions of extraordinary power who are there because of the families they were born in to and the schools they attended, rather than because they have the necessary skills and aptitude for these incredibly important jobs xx
Twoapenny:
Well I am feeling like I've just been dropped from a great height. I've been enjoying being at home - we've got food, we've got plenty to do and most importantly, I feel safe. We can sit this out. I'm limiting my news and social media to just enough to keep informed, without getting overloaded and I'm trying not to focus on the negative 'what ifs' and just to assume that we'll come out of this well rested, with lots of jobs at home done and a new appreciation for having the freedom to go out when we want to and easily buy food.
But a friend just rang and took me aback with her approach. Despite the fact that she works at a day centre for old people and they are now making up meals on wheels deliveries for them all as they can't go out, she is of the opinion that old people should die. She thinks the virus is a load of fuss about nothing, people die all the time from flu, cancer etc (which is absolutely true, they do) and she isn't adhering to the lock down because she doesn't see why she should. I was a bit blown away and I'm looking back on the conversation now but, from what I can see, I didn't get angry or upset on the phone, I was saying to her that she should be very careful because it is very bad, they don't have enough beds or equipment and that they would never have locked down the country if it were for no good reason. She got quite angry with me and I'm not sure why. I don't claim to be an expert on this but it has been announced here today that they think 20,000 dying in the next few weeks is the best we can hope for. They've built a new 4,000 bed hospital and two new morgues, and even with that doctors don't think they'll cope. I have medically minded friends who've both said this is going to be horrific and one friend's daughter, a paramedic, is self isolating as she has symptoms. She said that people die anyway, which of course they do, but I think the problem with this is that it is/will happen in such a short space of time and it overloads the health service. Currently the death rate in ICU here is 50/50. People are, apparently, having to be left to die alone because it's so infectious, so they can't have family or friends in there with them. Family and friends then have to self isolate in their grief, in case they picked it up as well, and can't arrange funerals with more than five people attending, I think is the current situation.
I pointed out that my son won't make the grade for a ventilator if they don't have enough to go round and that we're quite likely to be completely inside for three months now, if not longer. Not even going out for walks. I am aware that people die every day, of course they do, but I don't imagine that anyone wants to die on their own, in pain, knowing that their own family won't be able to gather together to bury them. Surely no-one thinks that's alright? Surely most people would avoid that, if they could? And most people aren't being asked not to go out at all, they're just being asked to only go out if it's essential. It's not too much of a sacrifice, surely?
The thing that really shook me up is that she got angry with me and then hung up the phone. I don't understand why she did that. It's shaken me up and left me feeling quite wobbly.
Hopalong:
Lighter, I think you might value both of these (especially the video).
Article: https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2020/03/28/masks-all-coronavirus/
Video: https://www.consumer.org.hk/ws_en/news/specials/2020/mask-diy-tips.html
(For me, it's just easier to not go out. But I know many folks have to.)
Luck,
Hops
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