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« Reply #75 on: January 01, 2025, 08:14:31 AM »
((((Tupp)))) sounds like a savvy way of looking at life in the New Year. 

Taking care of the business.....
of the purse, business of the mind, the emotions, the spirit, the body, the Nervous System, of the Darling Boy.....
the kitty, garden, where you live.....
where you play.

What is to your benefit.....and sometimes benefit to others feels beneficial to people pleasers, yup yup yup.

But building in time to expand your view, see and take measure of your choices is very wise, imo.  I hope it becomes your new, comfortable default.

Reading the above feels like throwing open windows on the Scottish Coast.....breathing in pristine air and releasing static patterns on the breeze, yup yup yup.

Happy New Year, my friend🌟
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« Reply #76 on: January 01, 2025, 11:27:01 AM »
I so get all this. My particular constellation of issues causes me to reluctantly rely on, for most things involving more than one other person:
I'd like to do this, but you this delayed sleep phase thing means no morning plans. For me, mid to late afternoons are usually good. Can we do tea or a brew mid-afternoon sometime?

I have a friend who invites me to writer luncheons but always at noon. Haven't been able to convince her to shift it to 1:00 so i rarely get to join. I have to be fairly ruthless with myself to keep reaching out for social connection these days. A new hope on the horizon is dog dates. Because of the very large fenced yard, I can invite friends with dogs over and the dogs run themselves silly with Pup, hilarious to watch. (Pooch didn't enjoy other dogs but Pup is nuts about them.) Weather dependent, but great when it happens.

Oh well. My version of anyway. If you caught a glimpse of my disorganization
Issues you'd be horrified.

Can't type well on this tablet, laptop has burned out and I'm avoiding the fight with Google and APple, which both are,rejecting my passwords, which makes my brain scream. More later whenI get a grip.

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Re: Developing A Personality
« Reply #77 on: January 01, 2025, 11:28:20 AM »
Errr, Hops
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« Reply #78 on: January 02, 2025, 09:17:02 AM »
Thanks, Lighter and His, errr Hops ;)  Lol.  Pup dates sound like the best idea ever.  Love watching dogs running around enjoying themselves.

Well I am trying to take a more practical and pragmatic approach to all things.  I'd like to get to a point where I don't feel that everything that ever happens is a personal attack and avoid the huge chemical dumps that seem to accompany that (currently sat with second very heavy cold in three weeks and I do think it's emotionally triggered).  Also trying to be a bit more proactive when feeling down in the dumps or wishing I had certain things/people/circumstances.

So - it's beautiful here at the minute, we've had snow, drove home through it yesterday as the sun was setting, snow topped mountains and huge fir trees sparkling in the sunshine, it was absolutely beautiful.  Lovely and sunny this morning and I was putting out bird food and sorting out recycling.  The birds get quite close at times and at one point there was a blue tit no more than two feet away from me, perfectly happy and it felt really lovely.  I really wished at that point that I had someone/some people to share those sort of moments with.

I'm just going through trying to be objective about it all but what I noticed about that is/are memories of being mocked as a child for 'sensitivities'.  So my natural inclination when around something so beautiful is to keep quiet.  I realised I just assume no-one I know is interested/would also find it beautiful; there are people on the internet who would but not in my real life.  And that, I realised, is because I feel safer being 'vulnerable' online because of the anonymity and distance (plus block/delete functions).  So I don't often take that risk with 'real' people because the possibility of being mocked/rejected feels too much.

So, with my new' Tupp the business woman' head on I thought that if I were trying to sell something to someone and they didn't want it, I wouldn't take it as a personal rejection, I'd just try someone else to see if they wanted it.  So I took a pic of the beautiful scene and sent it to a friend, saying I wished they were close enough that we could get together today and enjoy the view.  Of course you guessed it, they loved the pic and also said they wished that were possible.  Then my inability to trust kicks in; I don't believe what they're saying because, of course, so many untruths and betrayals from others in the past.  But I've no actual reason to think they don't mean it; if I'd been trying to sell something I wouldn't worry about whether they really wanted to buy it or not, I'd just be glad they bought it.  So I've not let my head go into a load of different scenarios; I've 'sold' the picture and the idea it would be nice to get together and that was it.

Someone else got in touch to ask if we'd be visiting this year.  Normally I feel pressure to agree, resentment that I agreed, annoyed that it's me that has to visit and so on. Decided to reply and explain the reality of our situation and how hard it makes doing trips away and realised that talking about or explaining my own needs AT ALL makes me feel like a rabbit caught in headlights.  I literally froze, couldn't think what to say, couldn't even formulate the sentences.  How daft is that.  Anyway, tapped it out, no drama, just explained time, money, health etc, would love to meet up at some point but no idea when or where etc and, of course, the reply was completely understanding of all of that, agrees it's very difficult (their situation is not dissimilar to ours) and suggested that we figure out some way of meeting half way if and when it's possible.  All easy to do because the majority of people don't behave like my mum and I really need to get that into my head now.

Then was feeling a bit down because not enough people have contacted me over the holiday period to make me feel worthwhile.  So I've sat with it and started to unpack it.  Feeling I need outside validation to prove my 'worthiness'; feeling very lonely and lacking in human connections but not wanting to acknowledge it to anyone (again, can remember the one time I told my mum I was lonely after breaking up with a partner and struggling to readjust and her laughing at me and this horrible mocking tone of hers, "oh, are you lonely?  How pathetic.  I was always too busy to be lonely".  And so I've just never acknowledged it since.  Thought about how I feel rejected if people don't reply or reach out first and then went back to the 'sales' analogy again.  If I messaged a hundred people with information about a product I wanted them to buy, i wouldn't take their responses (or lack of) personally.  Nor would I expect them to contact me first.  I don't know if that makes sense but it's kind of helping me keep my reactions and emotions a bit more level and realistically proportioned.  So I've messaged a whole load of people in my phone with new year wishes and I don't know, the emotional baggage that usually goes with that with me just doesn't feel as heavy.  I'm not a bad person, I know that, so why would other people think I am?  It's only ever been my deranged mother who's had such a problem with me, no-one else ever has.  Okay, it's good, it's shifting out of the way a little bit.

Okay.  Just getting it all out of my head and written down here, it kind of feels like it's alright?  I'm going to eat some more snacks :) 

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« Reply #79 on: January 02, 2025, 01:10:22 PM »
More practise.  Just received an 'official' and immediately went into a spin.  Heart pounding, head started whirring, felt sweaty and panicky and interestingly, noticed that I immediately started berating myself for all the things I haven't done today.  Don't quite understand the relevance of that, but anyway.

Told myself, whatever it was, my stock response now is "Thanks, I'll get back to you", and then to wait at least two days.  Calmed down a bit

Looked at the header and there's no attachment, so it is just an email and not a huge document to wade through.  Calmed a little bit more.  Did some deep breathing and calmed down a bit more.  Opened the email and carried on with deep breathing while reading it.  Noticed - panic at not being able to recall the information they're looking at immediately (this is a complaint I put in about the housing situation we left nearly three years ago).  Anger at it taking this long for them to deal with it.  Fury at knowing they may well not find in my favour and all the work that went in will be for nothing.  Resentment that the drug dealer is another abusive man being protected and cosseted by people in authority while we had to pack our lives up and move hundreds of miles to get away from him (echoes of my mum and step-dad, again).  Carried on deep breathing, calmed down a bit more.

I have a week to respond.  So - I can do a bit each day, re-read the original complaint I sent in, draft a response in which I confirm/clarify the main points and can ask them to confirm they have the evidence that was originally submitted.  I have additional evidence here; I can ask them if they need me to send it in.
Whilst I do still feel angry about the whole situation (and these situations in general), I did get us out of there, and that was no mean feat.  We've had a big life style change, which has been very positive, and we've had our Scottish experience which has been/is amazing.  We had the financial help from people on here which was extraordinarily kind and the (good) ripples from that are still being felt now because it was such a huge help.  It may be that they don't find in our favour, the law being what it is and disability often being misunderstood and dismissed the way it is, but I know that if we'd had accurate information about the situation, I wouldn't have moved in there, I know that they didn't risk assess appropriately (I'm just not sure if they're legally bound to; we'll find out now, I guess), I know that I went through all the appropriate lines and methods to deal with the situation and I know they left us high and dry (but again, I don't know if the law is on my side on this one).  I know they could have moved us and chose not to; I know they could have installed an inexpensive camera in the public area outside the property and stopped the drug dealing themselves, but they chose not to.  Whatever the law is on that, morally any half decent person would have forked out a couple of hundred pounds to put a camera up in the stairwell and he'd have had to have stopped what he was doing anyway.

It might not go in our favour and if that's the case I will be disappointed, but we got away which was the main thing and I did everything in my power, both at the time and after we left, to get as much done about the situation as possible.  No-one can do any more than that.

So still feel a bit panicky but not as bad as when I saw it.  Slowly dealing with the triggers as they come up.

Just editing as more thoughts pop up so that I don't forget things.  Whatever the outcome of the complaint, I have a load of photos, videos and paperwork that can all be destroyed once it's dealt with.  That will feel cathartic whatever comes of it.

Also noticing my thoughts/feelings as people reply/don't reply to messages.  I realised I do 'assess' the response, do they seem happy to hear from me, do they seem to want to chat or not, do they seem irritated that I contacted them and so on.  I hadn't really realised I do that before, for some reason today I noticed it.  I do tend to forget that everyone has their own lives, problems, situations going on and that there's really no hidden message to be found in a reply to a text.  I think, again, always feeling completely responsible for my mum's emotions (and having to tiptoe through the hidden meanings because she'd just explode if we missed something), when younger if she wasn't happy in some way, it was my fault.  Okay, another thread to let go of now, people don't always need to be in hyper effusive mode, a brief or missed reply doesn't mean anything about me and if it does happen to, well that's fine, too.  Okay, need to keep focusing on that.  No more thoughts today, I'm tired lol
« Last Edit: January 02, 2025, 03:04:45 PM by Twoapenny »

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« Reply #80 on: January 03, 2025, 08:11:19 AM »
Wow. A huge waterfall of insight and solid progress, Tupp!

Dying to write reams but later....must must must get the

Laptop sorted. The amount of backpedaling to fix typos I make on this tablet is insane.
More later, PUp has over shared what he ate yesterday...in several places. Ugh, gross, goodmorning.


Aaaaarggghggh, hugs
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PS, your last para sounds to me like an epiphany of the HIGHEST order. Seriously.
« Last Edit: January 03, 2025, 11:06:16 AM by Hopalong »
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« Reply #81 on: January 04, 2025, 03:51:23 AM »
Wow. A huge waterfall of insight and solid progress, Tupp!

Dying to write reams but later....must must must get the

Laptop sorted. The amount of backpedaling to fix typos I make on this tablet is insane.
More later, PUp has over shared what he ate yesterday...in several places. Ugh, gross, goodmorning.


Aaaaarggghggh, hugs
Hops

PS, your last para sounds to me like an epiphany of the HIGHEST order. Seriously.

Good luck with the laptop, Hops (and the puppy vomit!).  I'm clueless with tech but we have a lovely man in town who has that great ability to fix, sort and deal with the problem without making me feel like a moron for not understanding it, plus he'll always go through various options according to price so you know he isn't just suggesting whatever will make him the most money.  Lovely chap, he's a real help to a lot of people.

I'm still thinking/pondering my mind and trying to observe what's going on and pick out what works and what isn't helpful.  I know I have always, always, lived in a future version of my life because the present is always unacceptable to me.  I know it doesn't make sense, but it's how I've always been.  But I was thinking today, if our parents (or whoever it is closest to us in childhood) don't accept us for who we are, how can we accept ourselves?  And if I accept my present day situation or circumstances, I would also need to accept myself - and I am unacceptable.  Does that make sense?  Kind of makes sense in my head.

I always look at my situation (any situation) for a point of what I haven't done yet.  So if I look at my home presently, it is kind of shabby.  The furniture is old and mismatched, I always have grand plans to upcycle furniture and make beautiful curtains but I never get round to it.  I've still got stacks of paperwork I need to get rid of, boxes of photos I need to put into albums, bits and pieces of my son's that I want to put into memory boxes.  I could easily write a two page list of things that need doing.

But when I think back to when we moved in here - with nothing - having gone through an awful experience with the drug dealer, having to start over, having also dealt with a pandemic, years of abuse from my mum and all the disability related experiences - then what we've achieved here is pretty phenomenal.  I think part of the problem is that I see things through a superficial glaze, because that's what can be criticised (what can be seen).  It's protective, I suppose.  I spend two hours cleaning the house because people can see that.  I could spend that two hours putting photos into albums and creating beautiful reference points for my son in the future, but that would be criticised as being indulgent (and lord, I can hear that actual words in my head: "Hmm.  Alright for some, having nothing better to do all day, I don't suppose bothering to clean your house would be too much to ask?"  I can hear every nuance, I can see the sneering look on her face and I can feel myself withering inside to avoid the way it makes me feel.  Okay, this is making sense now.  She would even relay that to other people: "Get this one.  Spends half a day fannying about with photo albums instead of bothering to clean the house, heaven forbid that child actually had a clean house to live in".  Feel sick just hearing it in my head.  Starting to understand why so much of it stays buried.

I also need to focus more on all the good people and experiences we meet, hear about and are affected by.  I don't, because they don't pose a risk.  I focus on all the ones that can do me harm and cause problems, even if that problem is a throwaway comment about me (insert negative or unhelpful comment here).  Need to change that focus as well.

I think I need to reframe my head into - what I have done rather than what I ought to have done.  What I want or need to do, rather than what will avoid criticism or keep me safe (from mad people, I'm not about to start challenging huge men to fights, I'm talking more about that sort of passive aggression and gaslighting that's such a problem).  What my achievements are, within the context of my life, rather than held up against the societal norms of (generally speaking) - job - money - house etc.  Perhaps husband is part of that as well.  I still don't want one lol.

Okay.  That's probably enough for now.  Does it make sense?  I think I've melted my own brain x

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« Reply #82 on: January 05, 2025, 08:05:20 AM »
Makes sense to me, ((Tupp.))

There's joy in noticing achievements and lovely old collected things without comparing to anything.  Just noticing what's been overcome, brings joy and is possible in the moment.

The rest is old ballast.  Cumbersome.  Ready to be acknowledged, thanked and retired.

Floating to the surface, free and much lighter, seems a fine idea just now.

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« Reply #83 on: January 05, 2025, 09:00:24 PM »
You guys cold, Tupp?
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« Reply #84 on: January 06, 2025, 05:45:37 PM »
You mAke so much sense, Tupp, and it's no accident. Your mind is your treasure.

I felt chilled and sickened by your biomothrr's voice and mean, reflexive criticism AND, especially, that she's shaming you TO OTHERS.

It wasn't just demeaning and dismissive, it was so destructive. IT's beautiful, however, how clearly you see it now. I believe you DO have a lot more distance now. Not just geographically. She was so unkind to you at your most vulnerable, and she is SUCH "an N". All about her. You as sexual competition, my god. You as threat do her grand self image, how does Marvellous Me have a neurodivergent grandchild with othe problems? Since everything in her universe is always about her, her, her...ugh.

I'm so happy you and Son are tucked up cozily in Scotland and hope that as you continue your remarkable, really remarkable healing and growth, you will meet a few folks who become your friends.

My prickly neighbor and I are actual friends, once I came to understand her better. We can't have deep and perceptive conversations but we'll help each out in real practical ways.  She broke her wrist and wanted to make shepherds pie and asked me to come peel and cut the potatoes. I enjoyed it. Poet has her own limits and diminished insight, as do I, but we continue to support each other despite the distance. HOllywood-adjacent friend has been nothing but much nicer since the time I came close to discarding the friendship. Oldest friend, dog lady who lives in a town 45 minutes away is loyal and devoted to maintaining our connection, is very valuable to me even though I "bore" too easily, ADHD style.

It's taken me a very very long time to realize I do have people who care about me. They can't grout over the cracks in me, I have to do that. But they do make things look better once some time goes by.

Here's to the new year bringing us, if not perfect security, at least more internal stability and peace.

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« Reply #85 on: January 07, 2025, 07:27:31 AM »
A little OT here, but I got to wondering about the actual definition of personality. Recognizing that we might all mean something slightly different (and it IS used extremely variably) about what a "personality" consists of. So... still believing the dictionary is my "friend" because it has given me clues from time to time...

here's what Merriam-Webster has regarding the definition and meaning of "personality":

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/personality
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« Reply #86 on: January 07, 2025, 03:09:01 PM »
I vote for definition number 3.
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« Reply #87 on: January 11, 2025, 12:55:22 PM »
I'm voting #3 too, Hops.

It's cold, windy and covered in snow here.  Hope everyone staying warm.

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« Reply #88 on: January 12, 2025, 08:51:59 AM »
And it sounds like it's #3 for the win... personality being those intangible qualities and characteristics that make "you - you". And for most people, it's hard to make a list of these.

Some people are irrepressibly funny - always having a handy quip for everyone. Some are kind beyond expectation (or even rationality, sometimes). Some are loyal in the extreme. But these are just stand-out qualities. People are always a lot of other things, to one degree or another. And this can change with age; and even on any particular day; these qualities are also susceptible to mood, amount of sleep, lack of coffee... well, it's pretty infinite.

So maybe those stand-out qualities are the ones consistent despite time place & situation. Predictable enough, to start to build a "type" of personality. (See Meyers-Briggs, Enneagram, and more research/speculation into defining personality.)

Some times, I can be defined as crossing Ts and dotting Is of my routine. Other days, I'm a free spirit rebel to all social norms (just to stir things up; wake up from routines). Some days I'm a real uncaring hardass; others and empathetic kind softy. But I consistently question things, challenge the status quo understandings, and ponder things at length - sometimes, repeatedly. So maybe that's why "Skeptical" hasn't changed in a long time. It's neither here nor there, and IMO, just not that important anymore. Even when I'm getting called out for not "being" what I've been in the past... people change! And that's OK. There is no "perfect definition" for how to be, thank the godz!
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« Reply #89 on: January 12, 2025, 02:29:52 PM »
You're important to me, Amber!

Just had an interesting convo with the Instacart guy who wouldn't set foot off the street so I hadda hoof it out over the ice and fetch my own stuff from the curb. Then again, I saw a very large man in totally unproductive, untied kicks that would've offered him zero protection from a fall. I crabbed at him a bit but felt compassion because he clearly had zero experience walking on ice and snow. So I gave him an even bigger tip and we wound up friends.

He would have great lugged boots on if he could afford them, is the bottom line in my mind.

I felt guilty for even complaining, and my complaining is very empathetic, normally.

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