Author Topic: looong ugly details.... just getting it off my chest.  (Read 1199 times)

d's mom

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looong ugly details.... just getting it off my chest.
« on: April 04, 2005, 06:37:09 AM »
OK: i am going to try to make this as compressed as i possibly can. its sooooooo confusing to me, but im going to try. for years i felt i had a 'lock on my voice' thats what i called it to myself. then i got to the internet and found my voice. then they took my kid, and my voice was gone again. i hope that being here i can repair it, it feels realy shattered and confused right now.

this is how they got my kid. im not really expecting anything in terms of specific help.... its a long confusing complicated ugly story but i just want to talk about it, beucase ive been holding it in for all this time, i cant talk about it. noone will just let me talk about it.

i had nothing to do with my family since running away @ 16. they put me in a mental hospital but as soon as i got out i ran away again. it was the only way to be healthy. they wanted to control me and make me pay attnetion to them and give them 'n. supply' and i would never do it. until i was over 30 they didnt even know where i lived or anything. there was no contact.

the whole reason they went after my kid, is to force me to pay attention to them and create drama as well as paint themselves as 'the good guy' and pigeonhole me as 'a failure'.  additionally my daughter is beatiful, and they take credit for her.  they lied to everyone and said they took her becuase she was having all these problems, but if she was actually having problems, they wouldnt want her.. they want her as a 'trophy',  god knows he screwed up his own kids bad enough... he thinks it will redeem him to be seen with this beautiful girl, like somehow it was his doing. hes such a three year old!>

they hatched a plan to take her when i was having health problems from a car injury. it was a serious head injury & i had a lot of neurological stuff - nausea, fatigue etc.  i hadnt even told them i had a child, but some other relative let them know, and they started worming into our life.

they put on the act and started buttering us up and telling me i was stuck in the past and being selfish to deny their grandchild and a lot of cr*p. they can act so slick, and lie in wait for years, and thats what they did... they hid the drinking, and just acted like they changed, until they gained our trust.....

i was vulnerable, and they were doctors, and they offfered to help me while i got some intensive therapy that i really needed... i still cant believe i ever did it...  they played on my wish to see my daughter have the best, do the right thing, have a family again.. they lied, and fooled me. i still literally have recurrent nightmares about being the one that betrayed my own daughter to them. i still cant believe i did it. thats what good manipulators they are.

so i let her visit them TEMPORARILY while i went through therapy for the head injury. at first it was all great... she was in a private school, and getting all this great food and having a great time.... the 'buttering up' stage.... but then, i was finished with the therapy.  all the doctors said so, i was ready to take her back.

then everything changed. they realised, they didnt want to give up what they had. they had me right where they wanted me, if they gave my daughter back, they would have no leverage anymore.

suddenly everything changed. when she had first went there, they tested her at their own hospital and told us all she "didnt even have an iron deficiency". every week they told me she was 'healthy as a horse' (direct quote from two doctors) doing great in school, on and on. this was no surprise, she had always been like that.

then i let them know i was done with the therapy, and would be there for christmas, and was expecting to have a family meeting and discuss our next step.

i was packing to go there for christmas, literally packing presents for these people.... and a knock on the door. legal papers! not only was there no warning, i realized looking at the dates they had talked to me -twice- on the phone since filing them, never mentioning it.... just 'what do you want for christmas' and 'everythings fine'.  100% back stab.

these papers told me (after a year of working my =ass= off to complete difficult therapy and do the right thing for my daughter)  that i was:  "dangerous", "deficient", "mentally ill",  a "flight risk", (huh?) that i neglected her schooling and medical care, that I starved her on purpose and she had "malnutrition".. (but when she went there, not even an iron deficiency = HUH????) they made me sound like a freaking crack-whore.

the papers also said that the hearing was at 8 am the next morning, 1000 miles away. they had told the lawyer i was "so dangerous" that they needed an 'emergency jurisdiction change' so that i couldnt be at the hearing to defend myself. they had the hearing without me, rubberstamped everything my father wanted.

i asked them repeatedly to talk about it, told them it was a misunderstanding, suggested mediation, they told me, "there is nothing to talk about". they are taking my daughter with lies and force against my will and there is "nothing to talk about". now, thats an N comment.

since i couldnt afford a lawyer, i *myself* got all her school records, medical records, statements from her teachers, doctors, everybody..... but, it just didnt matter. fought them for two years, it was a total nightmare, they jsut kep changing judges until finally they actually got a judge they had personal connections to.

they didnt expect me to fight at all, when i told them i wouldnt let them get away with it, they actually laughed and said "noone will believe you; youre mentally ill." i think thats what they really thought.  of course, the more i fought them, they put the consequences on my daughter.. they punished her, for my 'disobedience'.... trying to put pressure on me....

they treat her like dirt now that they think i cant do anything, and have an endless source of 'n supply' becuase they can yank my chain anytime they feel like it, by abusing her, or just getting in between us so im forced to 'pay attention' to them, to get to her. its realy pathetic, i just think it is beyond pathetic thats what they have to do to get attention.

its such a long, painful, confusing story, and im so furiously angry becuase of how extremely disrespectfully they did it, and also the fact that they told me right away that i had absolutley no reason to be angry, actually tried to label me with an 'anger problem' which is hilarious if it werent so sick.. so i had to repress a lot of it, and its realy twisted everything up inside a lot. im used to expressing myself and being open and healthy with my emotions. being so furious, and being forced to rrepress it, is playing havoc with me.

thats some of the details of whats been happening. im jsut happy for a chance to get it out.....

im not really expecting anything, but its just really a relief to be able to talk about it at all. i just really need to be able to talk openly and express all this.... theres so much frustration and anger in there.... and confusion and awful things.

im just so thankful to express myself, for ONCE.
thats all im hoping for right now. realy appreciate it.
d's mom

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« Reply #1 on: April 04, 2005, 09:33:22 AM »
Wow, thank you for sharing your story, Anna, it lets me know why you feel you are up against a real dragon in your life. I am so sorry that you and your daughter are suffering. I understand what it's like to be used as a pawn in N parents game. If my Nmom could succeed in taking my daughter I am totally sure she would- for the same reasons you state.

I really admire the clarity with which you articulate your predicament. Please keep your courage and will alive;I pray that the right person will hear this story and help you reclaim your parental rights.

Delphine

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« Reply #2 on: April 04, 2005, 02:08:10 PM »
Anna, what a horrible situation.  I will continue to send good thoughts your way and pray for strength and serenity for you.  I think the best thing you can do is take care of yourself so you can be strong and positive for your daughter.  Is there any possibility of help from your duaghter's father?  What about his parents?
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« Reply #3 on: April 04, 2005, 08:29:32 PM »
delphine and longtire :}
thank you so much for listening to my horrible story and being kind.

the  daughters dad does suport me but hes also on disability and they respect him less then they do me - the court papers refered to him as a 'homeless vagrant' which offended my daughter quite a bit. hes on my side though.

as far as understanding their motives - thats something most people totally miss.  they think they have me 'check-mated'  on all fronts. becuase they totally convinced everyone im 'mentally ill', when i try to tell people i believe their motivations are to control me, i get told i am being paranoid!!!  <which im totally not>

when i express totally natural fury or anger as to how they did it or the unreasnableness *they* are showing, they tell people im being 'inappropriate' with my anger, that i have an 'anger problem'.. its such a great way to discount my point of view.. nobody ever told me i have any 'anger problem' except for them though..... i have no problem getting along with anyone else.. my 'anger problem' apparently is that im caling them on their sh*t! me asserting myself in any way, is defined as 'an attack' upon them becuase of their own issues.

as example - they put my daughter in glasses when she didnt need them.. (to control her body and make her dependent on them). i told them she had 20/20 vision at my house, i really wished they would get a second opinioin before taking a big step of making her dependent on glasses, since it could actually hurt her vision if she didnt really need them.

just my asking for a second opinion - which i think was totally reasonable - resulted in my not being allowed to talk to my daughter for almost 2 months - and when i finally did, she told me i needed to 'stop being mean' to them by disagreeing with what they said!  first time i ever heard that disagreeing with someone, especially about a major medical decision involving my own child, was 'being mean'.

just having people that recognise that, is very important to me. they really think they have it all tied up so that the more i express who i am honestly, or reveal the truth of the situation, the tighter gets the noose.  i know it will make me feel much much healthier, to be able to talk and express myself openly again, and not be called 'paranoid' or blamed becuas 'they wouldnt possibly do that'  so i must be making it up.

thank you so much for your acceptance and good wishes. its been very very very lonely. ps delphine, so glad things are getting bettter in your family. thanks all who replied, everyone.
thanks again so so so very much. !!!! thank you thank you thank you.
d's loving mama

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« Reply #4 on: April 04, 2005, 09:25:45 PM »
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when i express totally natural fury or anger as to how they did it or the unreasnableness *they* are showing, they tell people im being 'inappropriate' with my anger, that i have an 'anger problem'.. its such a great way to discount my point of view.. nobody ever told me i have any 'anger problem' except for them though..... i have no problem getting along with anyone else.. my 'anger problem' apparently is that im caling them on their sh*t! me asserting myself in any way, is defined as 'an attack' upon them becuase of their own issues.


Anna, I know from my own experience how important it is to get your anger and rage under control.  It needs to be channeled into productive action so the outcome is good, rather than just bursting out when they provoke you.  As long as you react to them by being angry, they will be in control of your behavior and always able to push your buttons.  Then your own behavior starts to back up their claims.  All of this is easy to say and pretty easy to understand, but very, very hard to do.  Detaching and choosing my own reaction has helped me immensely.
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