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hey_dahl

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manipulation is so fun
« on: November 13, 2005, 08:54:58 AM »
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> today is the 29th anniversary of my dad's death. he was a wonderful person.
> i shall always remember his love and caring kindness.
>               love,
>                   mom


i haven't posted here in a while, but when i received this email from my estranged Nmother today, i just had to share.
without me explaining the context, can anyone see what's wrong here?

aaahhh, the mutli-layered guilt of what goes unspoken...

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mum

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Re: manipulation is so fun
« Reply #1 on: November 13, 2005, 09:58:48 AM »
Dahl: I saw a button for you yesterday:
"my mother doesn't do guilt trips, she runs the travel agency"
So this is HER father? What's her point again?

miss piggy

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Re: manipulation is so fun
« Reply #2 on: November 13, 2005, 06:02:28 PM »
Hello Dahl,

OK, I'll play. 

Your mother is obviously a manipulative person.  She's writing out of the blue about something that she cares about and a relationship she had to "demonstrate" her ability to have a wonderful relationship with the idealized (and conveniently dead) father.  This is a hint to you that you should feel the same way about her and start showing it before she croaks.  Isn't she a wonderful daughter?   Don't you want to be one too? 

And Ns are so great at sending these cryptograms to inspire you to spend tons of time trying to figure out where they are going with all this (being a rational person).  All they need to do is create a bug in your computer program to make you crazy and keep you focussed on them.  Like a Trojan Horse virus.  Rather than be direct, gee, I'd like to see you and talk about things, you get this Jumble puzzle to figure out.  It's also to inspire you to feel inadequate or jealous about the fact that you don't have this same glowing relationship that she supposedly had with her dad.

I can understand why you would be estranged if she is constantly stirring the stomach acid.  Chalk it up to a helpful reminder of why you two cannot communicate in a healthy manner. 

Take care, MP

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« Reply #3 on: November 13, 2005, 10:33:11 PM »
Hey Dahl,
is any of it true?  What was the real story with her dad?   Were you supposed to know about the anniversary and phone her with your support or something?  I am so oblivious, I think my reaction would just be to think "oh" and hit delete.
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Re: manipulation is so fun
« Reply #4 on: November 14, 2005, 12:25:00 AM »
Yep! manipulation is what it is and MP summed it up much more elegantly that I could have.
Don't play -hit Delete( thats what it is for)

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hey_dahl

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« Reply #5 on: November 14, 2005, 05:08:27 AM »
What absolutely fascinates me with this board is that I was able to post that message, with very little explanation of context, and you GOT IT. It's so hard to explain to people who don't have Ns in their lives what could possibly be wrong with a couple of simple lines that actually sound fairly innocuous and sweet. Wow. Thank you all so much for understanding.

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Re: manipulation is so fun
« Reply #6 on: November 14, 2005, 10:57:21 AM »
maybe she also has some sentiments going on- all the PDs I have known have been incredibly sentimental about stuff like anniversarys for some reason?

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« Reply #7 on: November 14, 2005, 03:09:31 PM »
Hi write,

Very good point. They always seem sloppy,sentimental and nostalgic about things from the past that they can romanticize and build a fantasy around. Its just the real flesh and blood people here in the present who they have no feelings for.

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Plucky

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« Reply #8 on: November 15, 2005, 01:28:09 AM »
hey dahl,
I finally thought of a good response for you. Kind of good.  In theory.   "That's so touching.  I'm looking forward to the 29th anniversary of your death so I can look back on all the fond memories I have."   
Plucky

hey_dahl

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« Reply #9 on: November 15, 2005, 10:36:25 AM »
lol!  :D

that reply is so cool, plucky!

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