Author Topic: Drastic thought  (Read 2233 times)

reallyME

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Drastic thought
« on: May 10, 2006, 06:07:12 PM »
I sit and read about these abusers that call themselves "parents' and, honestly, I rarely even say the word "mom" to my bio mother anymore.  I don't feel that these monsterous torturers and abusers deserve the dignity of bearing the title of a nurturer, either Mom nor Dad, and I cring when I read posts saying anything with those titles in them.  "Mom" and "Dad" are names that need to be earned, as far as I'm concerned.  An abuser is not a "parent" they are an abuser, period.  That's just how I see it...anyone can spawn offspring; even animals do that much...it takes a true "mother" to raise a healthy child.

Just how I see it

Laura

Sela

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Re: Drastic thought
« Reply #1 on: May 10, 2006, 06:36:59 PM »
Hi RM:

I called my father by his first name from preteenagehood until his death, but never to his face.  I just didn't address him at all by name to his face, I figgered that was about as much disrespect as I could get away with and live. :shock:

It sounds like you still have a lot of anger toward your parents.  :x I wonder if it ever really dissipates?  I guess it depends on how much you release and when?  I think I was lucky because I feel like I let so much of it out as I was growing up (through writing, talking to my friends, physical and artistic activities).  But some kids have very few or no outlets and so that anger must go somewhere??  And I don't know if it ever alllllllll comes out??

re. animals.  I've seen some that take waaaaaaaaaaaaaay better care of their offspring than some people.
They could teach some people a thing or two. :roll:

Sela

reallyME

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Re: Drastic thought
« Reply #2 on: May 10, 2006, 10:47:20 PM »
Actually I have no anger toward my parents, Sela.  I have pity for my Mother who does not follow Jesus and my step-father has died.  My bio father continues to live in his same fantasy world, pretty much and I just can't relate to him.

Laura

write

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Re: Drastic thought
« Reply #3 on: May 10, 2006, 11:34:51 PM »
dear R/m & others, I mean this totally in the spirit of human love and growth:

what are your own goals as parents?
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How do they differentiate from your parents ideals?

Jesus is only one of many prophets, do not be content to judge them on that.


write

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Re: Drastic thought
« Reply #4 on: May 10, 2006, 11:36:43 PM »
some kids have very few or no outlets and so that anger must go somewhere??  And I don't know if it ever alllllllll comes out??

there are outlets in healthy communities- cults are different.

reallyME

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Re: Drastic thought
« Reply #5 on: May 11, 2006, 12:01:45 AM »
dear R/m & others, I mean this totally in the spirit of human love and growth:

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what are your own goals as parents?

that my children serve the Lord and are good citizens that take care of themselves and others in healthy ways.
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How do they differentiate from your parents ideals?

My parents were Catholic and believed that the sacrements were the way to heaven.  They raised us with that in mind, and also to make lots of money and buy expensive things.

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Jesus is only one of many prophets, do not be content to judge them on that.

Jesus is God

Sela

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Re: Drastic thought
« Reply #6 on: May 11, 2006, 12:10:29 AM »
Hi RM:

I'm glad you don't feel a whole lot of anger then and it's mostly pity.  Me too.  But for me, I used to think it was all gone and now I wonder if it ever is.

When I see shows that depict abuse or I hear of it/read about it, in the real world. my first response is to feel angry.  I know that's probably a "normal" response for "normal" people but sometimes I just wonder if mine might be a bit ....more than "normal".  Maybe I relive some stuff subconsciously at those times, or maybe there are big buttons that are easily pushed and don't release with "normal" speed....stuff that would not have been there, except for my experiences of being abused?

Write:  I'm not sure what your intent is but I'll try to answer your question anyhow.  My goal as a parent is to teach my children, help them acquire the skills to strive and survive in the world as good people.  My motto is if they make it to adulthood and are not in jail by that time, I have done my job.  :D  I think that helps me to live with my mistakes a little more easily.  :D  Surely I won't mess up that badly.

How do my ideals differ from my parents?  I think they probably had similar goals but were so messed up in their own heads and lives that that didn't always come through as the message.

Those are interesting questions and I'd like to hear other people's answers.

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there are outlets in healthy communities- cults are different.

I was referring to the type.......of abuser, I guess, each abused child must endure.  Some  people here have grown up in environment where the abuse has been more insidious than blatant.  That's confusing, I think and maybe a little harder to pin down.  Anger is generated regardless.  However, maybe such a person would have opportunities to express their anger and not be punished for it??  I don't know, I'm guessing...compared to..........

Another person, may have been ruled so carefully, with such control... that they were not allowed to go out with their friend, talk on the phone, write in a diary, go swimming, play outdoors, etc. do anything or go any where they may release some of their feelings.  In my head, it seems worse to be stuck in a place all the time with abusive people, having no support and no means of expression, always being punished for even asking for basic freedoms.  Anger is generated, I bet, and repressed.

What I'm saying has nothing to do with Jesus or cults and actually, I'd prefer if we stayed away from those subjects as they seem to induce conflict.  What you think?

Sela
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