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cat

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N-Mom and Assisted Living
« on: September 07, 2006, 09:09:36 PM »
Anyone out there ever had to move their n-mom out of their house (long distance) to be near one of her children and be put into an assisted living facility?

She's had a heart attack, she's got a blocked artery that they cannot open because it won't do any good (due to heart disease) - and yet she's convinced she's just fine.  When I asked her if she had had a heart attack, she said yes.  When I asked her if they were going to unblock her artery, she said - they were just going to treat it by medicine.  So, my questions got her to admit she had some health issues, and assisted living would be the way to go.

Then she thought about it all night - and thought she might have congestive heart failure.  She called the doctor this morning and found out she did.  So now she's convinced she had only 6 months to live (no doctor told her this - this just came in through her mind somehow) and refuses to move.

She's is putting my sister through hell (as she's going to be the one living near her).  My question - any advice from anyone having lived through this situation with a stubborn, strongwilled parent?


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Re: N-Mom and Assisted Living
« Reply #1 on: September 07, 2006, 09:27:24 PM »
Cat,
  
  I'm sorry, I really don't know... unless her physician could possibly assign a social worker to her "case" who might be able to counsel and convince her. Have you selected an assisted living center for her? One of their representatives may be able to advise you.

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Hope

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Re: N-Mom and Assisted Living
« Reply #2 on: September 08, 2006, 12:01:31 AM »
Hi Cat,
I'm sorry about her situation (and your poor sister's).
I'm not sure what it's going to be like to be very old if I'm that lucky, but as I've been living with a very old woman (strong N characteristics but not NPD) -- and know her intimately and have observed her decline daily for the last more than 8 years, I have some thoughts about this I never had before.

I think some of elders' denial about their condition is fear. But I'm coming to think another part is just plain resistance to dying somewhere else. If home is a familiar secure place, it may be that unconsciously, refusing to do what's practical and safe is a last declaration of independence.

And in a way, I've come to agree. Unless there were terrible suffering OR unbearable burden on family, I believe my mother would rather risk dying alone at home, than move into a facility.

She's always been rational, but she has interesting forms of denying things and maintaining control that do increase her risks. For example, though it's been explained to her over and over, she does not wear the emergency pendant I got her. She goes to the other end of the house, leaves it on her dresser as though she should just wear it when she feels worried for some reason, not all the time.

Result? One day she may be in one room and have a fall, stroke or heart attack, and I'll be at work or at a meeting. This is a risk I think she is unconsciously taking intentionally.

I hope the solution for you and your sister and your mother will be the one that makes sense for you...I apologize, haven't read your old posts in so long I don't recall your descriptions of your mom.
She may be someone who truly must be persuaded or semi-coerced into moving. I know that happens so please don't take these thoughts as critical at all...

I also know how absolutely desperate caretakers of the elderly can feel, and what a health price they can pay for enormous and very extended stress.

Please call on all the senior organizations in that community (you can probably do a lot of the homework by email) and ask where you and your sister could find a geriatric care manager. This person could give you very specific advice on how that kind of conversation would go as well as it could (and it's likely a process of several talks over time).

Hops
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Re: N-Mom and Assisted Living
« Reply #3 on: September 08, 2006, 12:04:25 AM »
((((((((((((((((((((((((Cat)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

I just want to wish you kind resolve and patience to get throught his tough time. I wish I had words of advice, but I don't. Please let us know how things progress.
Beth
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Re: N-Mom and Assisted Living
« Reply #4 on: September 08, 2006, 12:40:41 AM »
Thanks Hop, Hope and Lupine. . . it certainly does give more to think about.  Actually, all of her doctors and social workers have asked that she move to be near her daughter. 

I think you all are right in that it's a sense of fear in moving, and unconsciously being in a familiar place.