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Anonymous:
My sister-in-law is a detective, she reads through here occassionally but has never posted. We've discussed in detail how reliable the details are. How sincere the posters are. etc. She said to me, all these stories are so one-sided, so subjective. All you are getting is one side of every story, an yet every story has so many players. Her team has to interview sometimes hundreds of people to get to the truth. So the truth is not what we are on about here. It's how someone feels, and where they're at. And it's having and giving the freedom to post as guest, especially if they've been violated to the point of death, that it may take years before sufficient confidence is established to be secure enough to create a name and risk even this safe anonymous level of cyber intimacy. And who's to say that different names aren't one in the same person. I read a post by someone here referring to that exact question. It is possible and has been suggested before. What if someone posts at different times under different names. What if someone is offended and does a grand exit, and re-emerges the next day under a new name. I think the use of names or the use of guest is fairly irrelevant. It's the content that really matters. The only time the name matters if you want to start a witch hunt or a relationship. I weigh up the advice on it's own merits. I question whether the attachments are really the point, or even real for that matter. Who am I attached to? I like her comments. I don't like her comments. Maybe they're one in the same person. To call what someone posts cyber-drivel is so heartless and superficial just because they don't have a name. You obviously don't understand how a person could have been so violated that even this level of commitment seems threatening to them. And such thoughtless cheap shots doesn't reflect the sense of safety and mutual support and care I expected here. It surprised me. So I guess I'll continue as guest for a while longer.

guest

Discounted Girl:
There are so many guest postings, I don't know which to choose a reply, but, this is also for the one called "don't be so judgemental."

While no particular benefits are bestowed upon us willing to register and log on, it does provide a degree of identification to those reading our posts. Unless IP addresses are somehow traced through our log-on data and you are scared of the cyber boogieman, I don't understand the need to be known as "guest." If what one guest said is true that "anyone can rediscover their voice," after years of childhood abuse of any type you want to mention, then a simple sign on to a website procedure should be a snap.

I am not so sure ghostN's are posting on this site as guest or maybe even using multi-logged names, so much as just plain spineless, bored trouble-makers who fancy themselves therapists and even maybe think they are more internet savvy than the rest of us. It seems like quite often when a "button-pushing" post is made, it's from a guest. But, haven't we wasted enough of our life on jerks? I just cringe when I see some of you well-intentioned, loving, kind, genuine, intelligent and whitespirit-filled Nvictims waste your energy trying to explain and argue with these types.

You bet our childhoods were denied to us -- AND --------- YOU CAN'T GO BACK AGAIN, GUEST !!! If you had been N'd, you would know that. Some of us got cheated by monsters we called Momma and Daddy  :twisted:   -- THE ULTIMATE NO-NO. I don't believe in reincarnation, we are not going to pass this way again, and what happened wasn't our fault. There was/is no karma going on, there were/are actions of free will chosen by our parents that were wicked and they hurt us -- smacked us around. It wasn't our fault. No child ever did anything to not receive love from their parent. Yes, our baby voices were stolen, repressed and oppressed. We are mourning and dealing with the aftermath. I can't remember who, but one of our registered members said: "We must not consider it a privilege to enjoy life. Joy and peace don't only belong to others, we can have them to." All of the little kids still inside us are trying to find peace -- so, don't argue. If you want to read, read -- if you want to post, sign in. We've had a lifetime of tricks played on us, we're not interested in any more.  :x

Anonymous:
Discounted girl, I have replied to your attack in don't be judgemental please. Learn to Live And Let Live will you.

rosencrantz:
Interesting difference in communication between the Ns and the N victims of this world.

Nvictims say 'I' and 'we'
Ns 'You' and 'They'

Just check them out!

Nvictims take responsibility by talking from the point of view of 'I'.  They share and include with the word 'we'.

Ns blame and accuse with the word 'you' and use unknown others as their source of 'rightness' (ie they don't take responsibility, they hold someone they perceive as greater than they are as the arbiter  :roll: )

Interesting!

Makes it easy to tell one from the other - and shows a path for the N to follow if they are to find 'healing'.

Actually Ns don't need healing - it's their victims who need healing.  N victimss want Ns to find a better way to live in the world (cos Nvictims think that the world would be a better place if Ns would stop damaging others).  For the most part, Ns are perfectly happy being unhappy - they have no incentive to change - they just want the victims to be more accommodating to their will.

Ns - I don't mind you being as N as you like - but not in my backyard, not in my life, and not in reply to my posts. I don't want your advice or your comments.  I don't want to hear the word 'you'.  I don't want or need to have my buttons pushed or my cage rattled or my strings jerked.  I don't want confusion and the goal posts changed every few minutes just so YOU YOU YOU can get your own satisfaction at the expense of others.  Get the word 'nyah nyah ni nyah nyah' out of your vocabulary and then you might find your true voice.

Good luck to all Ns and hold onto your hats, Nvictims!!!  The Ns come and the Ns go.  Every now and then the Board gets rocked by these visitors but then the calm comes back and people get back to doing the working through they need to do.  And those who are less experienced just now will find they recognise these N voices in an instant and they learn to keep away from them on the forum and in real life.

So Ns do us a favour every time they seek to express their voice here.  We learn something.  If the Ns stick it out and hold their tongue, they might begin to understand why and how their voices are experienced as damaging by the rest of us - and learn from us in turn.  But Ns have to give up their arrogance and know how inadequate they truly feel about themselves before they can discover their humanity and just how truly lovable they can be. But, my goodness, to find the road to humility, that takes such courage...

R

Lizbeth:

--- Quote from: Discounted Girl ---You bet our childhoods were denied to us -- AND --------- YOU CAN'T GO BACK AGAIN, GUEST !!! If you had been N'd, you would know that. Some of us got cheated by monsters we called Momma and Daddy  :twisted:   -- THE ULTIMATE NO-NO. I don't believe in reincarnation, we are not going to pass this way again, and what happened wasn't our fault. There was/is no karma going on, there were/are actions of free will chosen by our parents that were wicked and they hurt us -- smacked us around. It wasn't our fault. No child ever did anything to not receive love from their parent. Yes, our baby voices were stolen, repressed and oppressed. We are mourning and dealing with the aftermath. I can't remember who, but one of our registered members said: "We must not consider it a privilege to enjoy life. Joy and peace don't only belong to others, we can have them to." All of the little kids still inside us are trying to find peace -- so, don't argue. If you want to read, read -- if you want to post, sign in. We've had a lifetime of tricks played on us, we're not interested in any more.  :x
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For some reason, this fact (of our stolen, never to be redeemed childhood's) seems to disturb a lot of people who are posting on this board.  It's true, but it has to be hushed up.  Very telling, in my opinion.

Lizbeth

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