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What's the difference between Voiceless and Speechless?????
Anonymous:
Rosencrantz wrote:
"too many people are taking potshots whilst well hidden by the freedom of their anonymity (road rage rules behind the anonymity of a steering wheel, doesn't it) and for that reason I think guests who wish to post should be required to register."
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Why should I not be able to post as "guest' because a small group of frequent message posters cannot control themselves emotionally? Not fair.
These are the trials and tribulations of unmoderated groups. They are just like usenet. The person responsible for creating the board needs to impliment rules and each board should have a moderator/s to uhold the rules.
Arguments break out on moderated boards as well, but the difference is that they are stopped in a good amount of time, and disagreeable parties who won't let up are stopped from posting.
It is *mostly* peaceful on moderated groups, and the same predictable fighting consistently happens when groups are not moderated...
Sad what it says about humanity and our ability for natural tolerance and compassion, especially in groups like this whose topics are such that the participants have already been treated badly in their lives.... But if the shoe fits...
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Lizbeth:
Unfortunately, because of these "guest" posters not being identifiable by a consistent nametag, they can't be stopped so they can go on posting in an abusive and N manner. Other, non-abusive guests are risking being lumped in with the bad guest posters and will eventually be ignored because named posters run the risk of being abused for taking time to post a response. This will be the last post I make in response to a Guest because of that very reason. The only way to deal with an N is no contact, and there is no way to know which guests are N or not. The very guests who seem so reasonable could also be posting in the continually abusive manner we have seen here lately.
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Why should I not be able to post as "guest' because a small group of frequent message posters cannot control themselves emotionally? Not fair.
These are the trials and tribulations of unmoderated groups. They are just like usenet. The person responsible for creating the board needs to impliment rules and each board should have a moderator/s to uhold the rules.
Arguments break out on moderated boards as well, but the difference is that they are stopped in a good amount of time, and disagreeable parties who won't let up are stopped from posting.
It is *mostly* peaceful on moderated groups, and the same predictable fighting consistently happens when groups are not moderated...
Sad what it says about humanity and our ability for natural tolerance and compassion, especially in groups like this whose topics are such that the participants have already been treated badly in their lives.... But if the shoe fits...
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rosencrantz:
--- Quote ---And yet at the same time when I read the latest posts, a lot of which are by you, I feel you are doing this exact thing that you denounce, to ALL Guests, without due consideration or placing yourself under the same set of rules.
--- End quote ---
I am not - and have never - pursued individuals across threads and bullied them - what nonsense!
On the other hand, I note that YOU are making generalisations - about my posts - rather than responding to them individually. The posts I have made over the past 24 hours are very varied in content and purpose. (YOU think it's OK to lump all the Rosencrantzs together!!! :wink: )
'Guests' expect the rest of us to work really hard at sorting out who's who and who's posted what and yet we have no context for them. How can we know who they are and give them due consideration? It's simply not coming from a rational and healthy place to have that kind of expectation of others. Especially when they are then unhappy to be 'lumped together'. If you share a name, you are inevitably 'lumped together' - it's rational, human and normal!!!
--- Quote ---If what they say is encouraging or sympathetic which is expressed to offer support to help someone else's emotional survival then that's positive.
--- End quote ---
I'm sorry - but just because somebody thinks they mean well, doesn't mean that their input or impact is positive. I take my support from people I trust whose opinions I've listened to over time - and I know that even when I listen to their advice, I'll still have my antennae open for their own 'unhealthy bits' (because I know where they are coming from) and make sure they don't harm me. If 'guests' don't want to be sufficiently involved to build trust, then it makes their advice, albeit well-meaning, ineffectual.
I do understand where you are coming from but you can't have it both ways. You may want it both ways but it just isn't a reasonable/rational expectation. And if you can't turn it around to put yourself in the other person's shoes...
(In case you didn't notice, I just played the empathy card!) ;)
Sorry - however much I attempt to neutralise it, it is inevitable that my response to you will be coloured by all the voices that 'Guests' have expressed on the forum recently.
R
seeker:
Dear Rosen, Lynn, and all,
Rosencranz, I think your comments here are wise, with one of your points being (I think...if I may rephrase) "Use this board and read messages at your own risk, " sort of a caveat emptor. This is my policy also.
Lynn, this is so wonderfully concise and on target:
--- Quote ---I am not voiceless if someone is listening.
--- End quote ---
I'm tempted to put it in my profile as a little signoff quote :D . Hooray and touche!
:wink: Seeker
Anonymous:
Unfortunately, because of these "guest" posters not being identifiable by a consistent nametag, they can't be stopped so they can go on posting in an abusive and N manner. Other, non-abusive guests are risking being lumped in with the bad guest posters and will eventually be ignored because named posters run the risk of being abused for taking time to post a response. This will be the last post I make in response to a Guest because of that very reason.
I think the silly or abusive posts are pretty apparent at first glance, they are just plain old babyish attention seeking, and the answer is indeed IGNORE THEM!
There are plenty of genuine ( guest or named ) posts to keep the flow of the board.
I guess most boards attract internet parasites from time to time.
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