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Supposedly erroneous principles in analysis
« on: May 28, 2007, 04:30:44 PM »
In his influential critique of psychoanalysis, Frederick Crews has listed a number of principles that he and many others believe to be "erroneous or extremely open to doubt." These include:

1.) "To become mentally healthy, we must vent our negative feelings and relive our most painful psychic experiences. The deeper we delve, and the harsher and more bitter the truths that we drag to the surface, the better off we will be." (Oh My!)

2.) "Through the aid of an objective therapist in whom we invest authority, trust, and love, we can not only arrive at an accurate diagnosis of our mental problems but also retrieve the key elements of our mental history in substantially accurate form, uncontaminated by the therapist's theoretical bias."

3.) "Everything that we experience is preserved in either conscious or unconscious (repressed) memory."

4.) "The content of our repressions is preponderantly sexual in nature. Therefore, sexual experiences can be regarded as bearing a unique susceptibility to repression and can accordingly be considered the key determinants of psychic life."

5.)"The repressed unconscious continually tyrannizes over us by intruding its recorded-but-not-recalled fantasies and traumas upon our efforts to live in the present."

6.) "Symptoms are 'residues and mnemic symbols of particular (traumatic) experiences' (SE, 11:16), and 'dreaming is another kind or remembering' (SE, 17:51). Consequently, a therapist's methodologically informed study of symptoms and dreams can lead (through however many detours) to faithful knowledge of an originating trauma."

7.) "As a result of all these considerations, the most prudent and efficient way to treat psychological problems is not to address the patient's current situation, beliefs, and incapacities but to identify and remove the repressions that date from much earlier years."  (and Oh MY!)

Much more on the website http://plaza.ufl.edu/bjparis/why_horney.html

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Re: Supposedly erroneous principles in analysis
« Reply #1 on: May 28, 2007, 06:54:35 PM »
I think this is why cognitive behavioral therapy came about...Izzy, you're positively wonkish!  :)

What we are thinking about ourselves in the present enables us to challenge (or continue) self-undermining patterns of thought which enables us to change (or continue) self-undermining patterns of behavior.

It's why prayer and meditation and hypnosis work...

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isittoolate

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Re: Supposedly erroneous principles in analysis
« Reply #2 on: May 28, 2007, 07:35:29 PM »
What is wonkish? Is there a pill for it?

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Re: Supposedly erroneous principles in analysis
« Reply #3 on: May 28, 2007, 09:49:12 PM »
Now that's reductionism, Iz! :lol: :lol:
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Re: Supposedly erroneous principles in analysis
« Reply #4 on: May 28, 2007, 09:56:20 PM »
Stormchild


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Re: Supposedly erroneous principles in analysis
« Reply #5 on: May 28, 2007, 10:21:26 PM »
 :D
I couldn't find official "wonkish" defs, but here's the gist (meant as pure flattery, Iz...):

wonk
One entry found for wonk.
 

Main Entry: wonk 
Pronunciation: 'wä[ng]k, 'wo[ng]k
Function: noun
Etymology: origin unknown
: a person preoccupied with arcane details or procedures in a specialized field; broadly : NERD <a policy wonk> <a computer wonk>
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Re: Supposedly erroneous principles in analysis
« Reply #6 on: May 28, 2007, 11:12:17 PM »
Oh, Iz, what it is, is that the cognitive behaviorist school has an offshoot, or a close relative, that's a 'mechanistic' behaviorist school, and those are the ones who hardly bother to talk to you at ALL, but just give you pills and charge you out the wazoo. In this school, psychopharmacology is all; we're just a collection of chemicals and synapses. They're called reductionists, because they seek to 'reduce' everything to a problem of imbalanced neurotransmitters...

Mechanists used to be very popular with the insurance companies... the extreme ones specialize in three week crash treatments, but of course prefer not to accept any patients with really serious problems.

So your bit about asking if there was a pill to take for wonkishness was very, very funny in that context!
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Re: Supposedly erroneous principles in analysis
« Reply #7 on: May 28, 2007, 11:51:34 PM »
Thanks Hops and Stormy

Glad to know I am funny but, as any joke that must be explained, the Ha Ha gets lost in the translation.

Thanks  for the updates

duh!Izzy