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Rob (I can't log in!..?)

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Support for the NPD Survivor
« on: August 08, 2003, 01:01:02 PM »
I have a few Biblical words I want to share that have helped me stay "together" through all of this....

The crowd sitting around Jesus told him, "Your mother and your brothers are outside looking for you." He replied to them, "Who is my mother, and who are my brothers?" Then looking at those who sat in a circle around him, he said, "Look, here are my mother and my brothers. Whoever does what God wants is my brother and sister and mother."
(Mark 3:32-35 GW)

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He answered them, "My mother and my brothers are those who hear and do what God's word says."  (Luke 8:21 GW)

I think it is important to be surrounded by as many people as possible who will be your friend through thick and thin - who will not abandon you as our "N's" have. I can certainly say that the traits of the NPD are not "...what God wants" and they are not in line with what "God's word says".... Lying, cheating, the self centered image, emotional abuse, manipulation and gossip among so many others are not Godly - so If I call myself a believer and am a "doer" of the word - these people are NOT my mother or brother or sister etc....

Also, the following has been helpful to me...

“…And if your right hand leads you to sin, cut it off and throw it away. It is better for you to lose a part of your body than to have all of it go into hell. “ (Mat 5:30 GW)

I see what Jesus is saying here as not just pertaining to sin aginst God - but I believe he is also showing us that if something is hindering us from our goal - or is something stands in our way - we need to remove it from ourselves - so that we don't end up going "down" with that obstacle that stands in before us.

Last, This...

Another disciple said to him, "Sir, first let me go to bury my father." But Jesus told him, "Follow me, and let the dead bury their own dead."
(Mat 8:21-22 GW)


If you have a spiritual ear then you understand what he is saying here too. He is also showing us that there is a point that we must reach - where we make a decision to leave behind the things that are dead - even those who will not change from dead ways. The ways of my NPD mother show neither good or living spiritual fruits - and I accept that she will not change - I pray that she will, - but I am not the one to do it - that's God's work if it is what he wants - when he wants. I have had others throw the verse saying to "honor your father and mother" at me - but following Jesus' example - these are NOT my father and mother simply because we share a biological link. Are we to forgive (7 x 70)? I believe so. I continue to forgive them and I forgave them, but that does not mean that i need to put myself in that place - where i was - with them anymore.  (or put my children in that place with them)

In response to your questions Nic - I feel glad in so many ways that those ties have been severed with my parents. Not only for my own good, but for the better of my children and my wife. Our relationships (mine and my children and my wife and I) have improved without the interference and stress my mother once brought on us - without the constant lies and manipulation. That is not to say that I don't have days where I feel sad  - but that sadness is for something that never really existed anyway - mom and even dad in the end - were only images, illusions of people - and worst - of parents. BTW - when i feel that way - coming to this board and talking with my wife and being with my kids bring me right back - the validation and love of your close ones is priceless in my experience. It was not easy - but it was and is better and more healthy for my family and i in the end. I really see no other choice but to move on and be wiser for it. Take care all.

-Rob

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Support for the NPD Survivor
« Reply #1 on: August 20, 2003, 05:20:35 PM »
Rob I think you hit on something when you said,  Illusions of people.  I think I have built a world around an illusion of  a person.  In a way I created the illusion.  I tried so hard to make him "normal".  Normal in his thinking, normal in his reactions.  I just kind of dismissed all this terrible stuff to live in the illusion of an ok marriage with a husband that loved me.

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Re: Support for the NPD Survivor
« Reply #2 on: June 29, 2007, 12:22:44 AM »
Rob and Mary-

Your posts have given me courage and peace. Who indeed are are mothers and brothers, etc. ? I want to rebuild my world and myself, and thses concepts give me a goal to move toward. Thank you.

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« Reply #3 on: June 29, 2007, 05:21:18 AM »
I have also been caught in the trap of having illusions of others.  I know I was so desperate to be loved that I was willing to overlook abuse in the hope that underneath the abuse there was a loving person who genuinely cared about me.  This has been a pattern in my life.  The truth is that those who abuse knowingly do so because they get pleasure in hurting others.  Thankfully the rose tinted glasses are gone and rebuilding my life without them is a difficult but real task.

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« Reply #4 on: June 29, 2007, 09:05:39 AM »
My whole life, I wanted my N mother to be "normal. If it could be a movie,it would be funny. . She was so disgusting ,but I would twist and turn so that SHE would be normal.
  If I twisted myself enough--- Maybe she would turn " normal"?   Well, I twisted and she stayed the same.
  I have done the same thing with my H. I twisted to make my marriage fit an "illusion. With him, though, he does seem to "bend" in ways that my Mother would never,ever.
   She is a full   NPD. He has traits, I think.
   Now, my goal is to untwist                               Love  Ami
No one can make you feel inferior without your consent.        Eleanor Roosevelt

Most of our problems come from losing contact with our instincts,with the age old wisdom stored within us.
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Re: Support for the NPD Survivor
« Reply #5 on: June 29, 2007, 09:26:15 AM »
Dear Ami,

My husband is a good and loving man, but he DEFINITELY has traits. I'm sure it was why I was attracted to him.  The good thing is, he doesn't want to have these traits, and he is improving. And I think moving far away from his family, and mine, will help us both find a new way to be. (We're outta here in three weeks!)

Because of my husband's occasionally N-like behavior, I've pondered a lot on the difference between really BEING an N, versus behaving like one because that was how you were raised.

I'm so ashamed of myself, looking back, to see how I've behaved like my Mom in the past. I used to interrupt people, I had exaggerated, fakey behavior, and I was willing to do ANYTHING for attention.  I'm sure some people thought I was a freak. Argh, how embarrassing. I wish I could erase so many things I did. But thank God I know better now.

Meanwhile, now that Mom is in her sixties, it seems as if she's lost the ability to appear normal. Her weirdness is getting more evident, and people either think she's incredibly charismatic, or they think she's a freak.

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Re: Support for the NPD Survivor
« Reply #6 on: June 29, 2007, 09:37:06 AM »
New Me,

Welcome to the board!  You will find a lot of good support here and a lot of people who understand where you are coming from.

Why dont you consider joining so you can remove your guest status and your email address which is automatically posted on the board when you are a guest?  It's safer for you and gives you more freedom to post.

Good to have you here,

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Re: Support for the NPD Survivor
« Reply #7 on: June 29, 2007, 09:59:34 AM »
Dear CB,


<<Why dont you consider joining so you can remove your guest status and your email address which is automatically posted on the board when you are a guest?  It's safer for you and gives you more freedom to post.

Good to have you here,>>

Thank you, I will!  I've been a lurker since January, and I can't tell you how much this board has helped me