Words

[Overcomer]

i just got done watching Joyce Meyer and her topic was how our words can help up move forward or they can keep us wallowing in our stuff.  You can watch the broadcast online at joyce meyer . org       It goes along with my thread about snapping out of it.  If anyone watches it I would love to know if anyone else thinks she is right on.

[Ami]

IMO, I find Joyce Meyers very depressing . To me, I see so much anger and pain in her. Even though she talks about the right things,often.I see(with my own eyes)  that she is still holding on to the huge bags of garbage that were foisted on her by her childhood.She went through a lot. However
  I think that she has not taken in God;s love in the very, very deep place that we all need it. I see a superficial "healing" but not a deep one.(IMO)
  Have you seen Rexella Van Impe.She had a near death experience. She knows that God loves her and is so peacful and loving. Love just oozes out of her. Also, love seems to flow out of Joel Osteen.
   I am saying these things from a place of seeing with my heart and not my head .
   My goal is to feel, own and live in God's love. I had one experience when I just felt His Presence inside me. I was just "flowing" in that love. I was a vessel. I was not doing anything,but letting it flow from above and out of me.Wouldn't it be wonderful to "Live" in that place?                Hugs  Ami
 

[lighter]

I won't be able to watch it but, my guess is that trying to "snap out of it" before we're ready is part of the problem of staying mired.

I can imagine that taking the posture of professional victim, not growing and changing the dialogue in our heads would make it impossible to move on though.

[Overcomer]

Well I do not mean you just snap out of it-I mean you have to have a resolve that you are not going to be anybodies victim ever again!  I realize there is no mind over matter positive mental attitude that is going to change us.  On Joyce Meyer- I think she is a country no nonsense gal from Fenton, Missouri.  Maybe the reason I like her is she tells it like it is and whether I like it or not, I have a personality similar to hers-I can be a bit abrasive from years of pent up anger.  I like her!

[Overcomer]

And I know maybe you all misunderstood my snap out of it thread but I  mean that we can get stuck and I think we need (on our good days) to do everything we can to take back our lives.  That starts with confessing with our mouths that we WILL NOT BE OUR N VICTIM ANYMORE and there is nothing that is going to stop our forward movements towards emotional healing.

[Overcomer]

Thanks Bee-I appreciate your perspective.  I truly am on a course to heal and grow.  I have done my share of complaining but I am determined.  BUT EVEN THIS MORNING I WAS OBSESSING ABOUT MY MOM AND HOW I PRAY SHE LEAVES OUR BUSINESS BUT SHE WONT.  So I am sure I will backslide when I am P M S And she is being terribly frustrating.  But I am going to try to rise above!

[reallyME]

My opinion:  Joyce ROCKS for the most part.  I can see where some soft-hearted folks can't handle her "in yer face" way of doing things.  I personally am considered to be "another Joyce Meyer, Judge Judy, Laura Schlessinger, Dr Phil" by many of my in-life friends.  That's because we all have a CHOLERIC personality.  We "hit it and move on."  We are goal-driven people, rather than people-focused people, by nature.

I enjoy Joel Osteen, but I find VanImpe to be FAKE and FLAKY.

~Laura

[Overcomer]

Well Rexella And her husband are not my fav but maybe Am does not like the in your face preachers but calmer ones-maybe her mom was and is an in your face kinda mom.  I like watching T D Jakes-He gets all excited.  I do not like Jan Crouch-she needs to but her pink hair and stop crying!

[Overcomer]

Oh and Laura, if you are like Dr Laura how in the world did you not tell your N to take a flying leap?

[reallyME]

Overcomer,

How did I not tell X to take a flyin leap?

Well, there is one thing that can even work on Dr Laura types...INTIMIDATION.

X not only seemed like she was so much higher than I was, but she also had a way of looking at me or saying things, that made me just buckle under.

I'm not sure if Dr Laura even met up with someone who had that type of control over her, but it's a very eerie and disconcerting feeling.

I didn't really get the reputation of being a "Dr Laura" until AFTER X was out of the picture, anyway.  At this point, I highly DOUBT any dysfunctional person could get the "better" of me.  My self-esteem and relationship with God are way too strong, to fall for any gift-giving, promises, threats, mockery, or what have you, at this point.  That is probably why X hasn't contacted me again as well.

  She knows that now she cannot poke a joke at me, with me being the brunt of it, and have me just sit there and laugh at myself.  I WILL rise up and say "HEY! I see exactly what you are doing and it's not acceptable so knock it off!"  When I started doing that every time, that was when X headed for the hills quickly.  She's been gone ever since...other than occasionally reading this board or sending someone to.

[Lupita]

Please, please, do not get mad at me for what I am about to say, I really think that it is true. I am only expressing my impresion on the matter, do not want to offend anyone.

I do not believe in over flowing love and energy on anybody. We are human beings. We cannot be overenergetics all the time, even those people who teach the lessons at the gym, they have to rest and sometimes they do not have energy, they look great and encourage people during the lessons, prichers, etc. But cannot be all the time, energy has to run out, it is not human.

When I see one of those people overflowing energy I cannot imagine how many red bull drinks she or he had that day.

[Lupita]

O apologize if anybody got offended by the red bull drink, it was kind of a joke.

If someone triggers us it is probably because we are similar.

So, why not to put the helmet?

If something triggers us or invalidate us, we only have to put the helmet.

We need each other here, we need help, we are lonely people, if we were not lonely people we would not have to come here for validation and for a little bit of love.

Please do not get mar at me. I love you all and need you so much.

I was terribly manipulated last night. I truely believe it was my fault. I am always so desperate for a little bit of love. 

[Overcomer]

Laura:  The exact thing happened to me.  After I had met my limit with N mom and blew up and went ballistic-that is when I turned into Dr Laura.  I do not take any stuff from anyone any more and I stop my mom in her tracks when she starts her stuff.  No offense taken Lup.

[Overcomer]

Words-    I am so stupid OR I made a mistake that I will try not to repeat.  I am fat and ugly OR I am a bit overweight but if I cut back and exercise and fix my make up I will be beautiful!   I am doomed to be in this situation forever  OR I am determined to make an effort to change my circumstances for the better!