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tayana

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N mothers and our kids
« on: August 15, 2007, 02:24:43 PM »
I haven't been posting partly because things have been going really well, and partly because I just haven't had time.  But I had to post this, an email I just sent to two of my friends, because I'm still fuming over it.

I have suffered through six days of nicey-nice, sweetie, sweetness from my mom because my AZ relatives were in town.  She had to put on a good show for them, you see.
 
So today, after I'd rushed to the office supply place to buy a pencil sharpner because I didn't have anything to sharpen pencils for school with, I was eating lunch and she called me at home. 

You see, I had planned on M attending a latch key program, only the program is full for his school.  So, I had to examine other options.  Option 1, he could ride the bus to and from school, which I don't have problem with, the problem is that he'd have to be home alone for a little while, and I'd have to trust him not to bother things, open the door and take the dog out.  I don't quite trust him that much.  Option 2, is he goes to a daycare center for about an hour and a half a day.  I chose option two, enrolled him in the daycare.  He'll be transported about 2 miles in a passenger van twice a day.
 
So my mother calls me today and rags me out because latchkey is full, and he's got to go to a daycare center.  She complains about the van drivers driving recklessly (remember it's about a 2 mile drive) and complains about the start and end times of school.  She wants to know why M just can't go to the recreation center where I work.  Well, he can't without someone with him.  She rags me out over the whole situation and complains because M got it wrong, thinking he was going to the YMCA (which is way out of my way, and that's why I haven't gone to fill out the paperwork for the latchkey list).
 
I'm tired of this woman.  I don't want anything else to do with her.  I'm tired of her poisoning my kid.  She complains because I have to work ONE (count it ONE) night a month.  I rarely have to stay past 5:30 in the evening.
 
She came to my house on Monday and criticized everything she could find.  She keeps forgetting that M is MY kid and not hers, and what she's done with him so far hasn't been so effective.  Let's list the problems here:
 
He can't make friends.
He can't keep friends if he does succeed in making them.
His social skills are seriously lacking.
Everything has to be about him.
He can't understand that he can't just have whatever he wants.
 
I could go on and on and on.  The problem isn't M, even though my mom swears it's his "condition."  His condition doesn't make him so stubborn he won't listen.  His condition doesn't make him argumentative.  The fact that my mother would never allow me to discipline him when he needed it, or else she would impose some ridiculous form of discipline that was totally inappropriate.  She never supported any of my attempts to help him socially or emotionally.  She never supported the idea that he needed to learn consequences for his actions.  She either let him get away with anything because she didn't feel good that day, or else she yelled at him for everything and punished him for nothing. 

I think this is going to be good for him.  It is sort of tough love, but I think he needs tough love.  He's got to learn some sort of social skills, or when he gets into the upper grades he's going to suffer.
 
Well, this ended up being a long rant, not a short one.  I think I hate that woman.

Prior to this week, our contact with her had been limited to phone coversations.  I really preferred that.
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Re: N mothers and our kids
« Reply #1 on: August 15, 2007, 02:49:26 PM »
And then  . . . .just to add insult to injury, she calls me at work, which she hasn't been doing, and says she'll start driving down to pick M up from school and take him home.  The woman won't spend more than twenty minutes inside my house, but she'll drive forty miles to pick my kid up from school.

I nixed that.  I said, "M can go to the daycare for an hour until a spot in latchkey opens up." 

"Spots aren't going to open up."

I'm thinking, well that depends on how long the waiting list is.  If it gets long enough I bet spots open up.

I told her, "I think he'll be fine for just a little while."

She's not convinced.
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Re: N mothers and our kids
« Reply #2 on: August 15, 2007, 03:00:07 PM »
Hi Tayana,
Sounds like your mother is never going to be satisfied with the way you are raising your child. Frustrating, isn't it?
I BET she wasn't a "mother of the year" type, either?
Sounds like you are a MUCH better mother than she was.
My NMother was a HORRIBLE mother & feels free to criticize everything I do, as well.
My kids (her grandkids, who are now grown women) hate her guts! The oldest one, when she calls me & I tell her about it, will tell me to tell her to "BURN IN HELL!"
She was so good to my girls until they became too old to dress up like little dolls & parade around. Then she became down right mean. Hiding candy from them, yelling at them for making too much noise, ect.
She hasn't made an effort to contact them in YEARS. No birthday cards, no Christmas presents.
But...she does fawn all over my brother's little girl, which hurts. But she's still at that cutesy age, so I pity her when SHE gets older.
Here's something really cruel.
My brother has a 17 yr old daughter from his first marriage. My brother & her lost contact & now he's trying to be in her life again. My mother (again, her grandmother) wants NOTHING to do with her. Tells my brother she's fat & stupid & evil. She's NOT! She just wants her dad in her life.
For some unknown reason, my mother really has a vendetta against this child!
If it were MY grandchild, I'd be running as fast as I can to where ever she is to bring her back into the family. Not her. She HATES her!
That's my NMother.
Anyway, I hope you can keep YOUR mother from hurting your child.
Love,
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Re: N mothers and our kids
« Reply #3 on: August 15, 2007, 04:23:28 PM »
Pal,

I'm just wondering...did your mother's father abandon *her*, and NOT try to make it up with her later in life? Is she bitter because your brother's daughter from his first marriage is getting something great, that your mother never got?

Just a thought.

Janet

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Re: N mothers and our kids
« Reply #4 on: August 15, 2007, 10:03:19 PM »
Hi Janet,
I'm not sure WHY my NMother is the way she is.
Her parents were married over 50 years, although I will admit not always a happy union.
And as far as her "new" grandaughter, she even went as far as calling her a bitch! To me, personally on the phone one day.
For no good reason! She had not seen that child since she was born. She's now 17.
I really do think she's just mean.
My mother has always done the leaving & hurting.
Just plain MEAN!
Love,
Bigalspal
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Re: N mothers and our kids
« Reply #5 on: August 15, 2007, 11:50:54 PM »
Oh Pal.

You got some OTHER genes.

What a waste of human breath, that woman.
When she could've been speaking love, or laughing.

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Re: N mothers and our kids
« Reply #6 on: August 16, 2007, 06:40:31 AM »
Oh thank goodness you're ok, lol... Tayana....

I thought the new promotion and move and just everything had you tied up.

So glad that's the case: )

So.... are ya ready for NC?

Sounds like you kind'a......

 sort'a.......


are? :shock:

The more you let her involve herself in your life, the clearer the toxic results will become.

BTW... on M....

The goal for disciplining him should be: (skip in not in the mood for a child discipline lecture, lol)

**Teaching him to do better next time.... not punish.

**Attaching natural consequences to actions ie.... He cleans the crayon off the wall himself if he drew on it.... as opposed to losing his favorite comfort object for a week, KWIM?

**Assume the best of intentions and talk about what you WANT HIM TO DO..... not what you DON'T WANT.
ie  I know you didn't want to hurt Mickey.... we talk when we're frustrated and figure out how to fix the problem or take a break and  do X Y OR Z, (something that calms and teaches him how to cope on his own.  Reading, drawing..... something he enjoys.)  You don't want to keep harping on the action you wish to extinguish or make negative assumptions most of the time.

**Remember that whatever you're modeling for him..... he's going to learn better than anything you say you want him to learn.

Speak to him the way you want him to speak.

Model how to take responsibility when you screw up, apologize and talk about how you'll do better next time....

example...  yelling in traffic.
'Oh, mama shouldn't have lost her temper and yelled... what should she have done?  Next time I'll be patient and understanding bc sometimes mama gets into a hurry too and I don't want anyone yelling at me... I'm sorry I yelled and next time I'll do better."

Talk talk talk to your child and get him to participate in figuring this stuff out with you.

You want to gain your child's cooperation.... not create an advesarial relationship. 

Be creative and proactive as possible.  (It takes more energy to teach than to punish, granted..... but well worth payoff)

If you know he's at the breaking point and you take him for an hour of grocery shopping....

who's fault is it if he has a meltdown? 

Not his. 

No shaming or blame placing.... it's all about problem solving and developing coping strategies that will serve him his entire life. 

Calm, consistent mama is what you need to strive to model.

And lastly..... don't impose any consequences you can't follow through on immediately. 

Just go ahead and give in when he asks for ice cream.... if you know you don't have the energy to say NO. 

That way..... he doesn't learn to break you down and change your NO into a YES.  Kids are natural born gamblers and if you do that a time or two.... they'll try all the time cause it's just a matter of when... not if... you'll give in. 

Before you know it.... he'll get used to the new routine and rules.  I always like to start out a new routine with a bit of fanfare.  A shiney new chart with bright stars he can put on himself for accomplishing goals like brushing teeth, making bed, feeding dog, taking out trash, doing homework, reading for so many minutes..... whatever it is you're going to be working on and all the regular stuff too.



::Sigh::  So glad you checked in  Tay: )