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Ami

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Re: Being Centered
« Reply #15 on: November 18, 2007, 10:04:24 AM »
Dear Leah,
  Thank you for your warmth towards me and your kindness-----so very much .                       Ami
No one can make you feel inferior without your consent.        Eleanor Roosevelt

Most of our problems come from losing contact with our instincts,with the age old wisdom stored within us.
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Re: Being Centered
« Reply #16 on: November 18, 2007, 10:15:30 AM »

Dear Ami,

As I have already shared with you, it was seeking God's wisdom that made the difference.

Wisdom and Discernment are the two precious gifts that I sought after.

His wisdom will continue to guide you, as you surrender to Him.

Love & Blessings,

Leah

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Ami

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Re: Being Centered
« Reply #17 on: November 18, 2007, 10:29:07 AM »
I have to add s/thing. A picture is popping in my head of my M berating herself for every "normal" feeling and desire. I remember that she could never be "selfish" without horrible guilt. She could never feel "judgemental" without beating herself up. She could not feel
normal" human "falings" such as pettiness,jealousy, selfishness without taking an "ax" to herself. I am seeing this in my "mind's eye".
  Also, my M has to DO everything perfectly. I remember how horrible it was for her to train a dog. She could never admit failure or defeat. .
   My M's sister can accept her foibles. She can talk about her  various weaknesses(fear of dogs  is one). She can joke about them. She said that she almost had a heart attck when a friends bull dog jumped in her lap. She can talk about her selfishness. She was telling me a story about her D when my Aunt let her D do a task that my Aunt should have and how my Aunt felt guilty. However, she could admit selfishness, poor judgement, weakness etc---all in her story. Then I was telling her about Maria. She said,"Ami, dear,of course, she would have jealousy. That is just normal.
  My Aunt can own the whole spectrum of her emotions as "just human". She can laugh at them.It surprises me every time that I talk to her. This is what I want. This is what I call "normal" and this is what my goal is. Does anyone understand ?     Ami
   
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No one can make you feel inferior without your consent.        Eleanor Roosevelt

Most of our problems come from losing contact with our instincts,with the age old wisdom stored within us.
   Carl Jung

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Re: Being Centered
« Reply #18 on: November 18, 2007, 10:33:48 AM »
Yes, Ami,

That's what being 'Authentic' is all about, being 'True to Yourself' ....

warts an all  :)

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Re: Being Centered
« Reply #19 on: November 18, 2007, 10:38:28 AM »
Yeah,Leah
  It feels good to accept the warts. It feels even better to laugh at them.( Maybe, this is at the root of humor )             Love   Ami


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No one can make you feel inferior without your consent.        Eleanor Roosevelt

Most of our problems come from losing contact with our instincts,with the age old wisdom stored within us.
   Carl Jung

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Re: Being Centered
« Reply #20 on: November 18, 2007, 10:53:18 AM »
Dear Hops,
  I am going to ask you a very "dumb" question. It is my "emotions" asking it--not my intellect. This is it----- Can we accept all the feelings and thoughts that we have without feeling "bad" and self condemning? Can we just let the bad, selfish, hostile, self centered, rude, petty, jealous, self centered etc  feelings and thoughts ---just "go by" . Thanks Hops ---so much               Ami

PS---my favorite author---Stephen King has characters which think "horrible " thoughts that I would feel very "condemned "by. However, these thoughts must be human or King would not resonate with so many people ---right?
   
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No one can make you feel inferior without your consent.        Eleanor Roosevelt

Most of our problems come from losing contact with our instincts,with the age old wisdom stored within us.
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Re: Being Centered
« Reply #21 on: November 18, 2007, 12:23:10 PM »
Hi Ami,

I think you've got BINGO today, for sure!

Yes and yes. I really do believe we have to have compassion for ourselves as much as we proclaim it as a rule, to have it for others.

Observing and noticing or even sometimes getting swept up in our own darkness is real. It is. So that is where loving ourselves is most difficult and most helpful.

We know the difference between celebrating and fixating on our capacity for hatred, judgment, hurting people--and seeing it in ourselves and simultaneously letting it go and flowing right past toxic shame.

Shame for what? Being a human being? Displaying some of the natural effects of what we've learned or lived through?

Unless we want to shame every person we meet, why shame ourselves?

It just is kindness. After a while, imo, it just feels illogical and odd not to be as kind to ourselves as we are in our kindest moments toward others. We are them. They are us. We are all one human community.

Might as well start with whoever's handiest, right? That would be ourselves...

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« Reply #22 on: November 18, 2007, 02:13:18 PM »
Ami,

I think what you are referring to is how can you accept your "shadow side", that part of human nature which contains the dark, negative, yucky parts.

The pyschiatrist, Carl Jung, wrote extensively about "The Shadow".  A book I liked which explains why feeling our Shadow Side is natural and human is called Meeting the Shadow by Connie Zweig.  Here's the amazon link:  www.amazon.com/Meeting-Shadow-New-Consciousness-Reader/dp/087477618X/ref=sr_1_5/104-9786183-7310347?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1195412455&sr=1-5.

In the customer reviews of this book, someone wrote a review which I think you could relate to.  This person wrote:
"Jung was once quoted as saying "I would rather be whole than to be good." I did not understand this statement until I read this book. Now that I have begun my own "shadow work," the picture is becoming clearer, and clearer"

Maybe working on accepting your "shadow side" could help you feel more whole, more accepting of yourself, both your good parts and the not-so-good parts.  As humans, we all have a shadow side and once we embrace our shadow side, we can feel more whole.  When we hate our shadow side or try to repress or ignore it, then our shadow side bites us in the a$$.  We can't run away from our shadow and our shadow is valuable because it teaches us many things about ourselves.



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Re: Being Centered
« Reply #23 on: November 18, 2007, 03:31:32 PM »
Dear Observer,
  THAT IS IT EXACTLY.I am going to get that book, today. You have some wisdom, Observer.I hope that you stay around..                      Love    Ami
No one can make you feel inferior without your consent.        Eleanor Roosevelt

Most of our problems come from losing contact with our instincts,with the age old wisdom stored within us.
   Carl Jung