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Gabben

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Are NPD's attracted to other NPD's? (don't laugh)
« on: November 20, 2007, 05:06:22 PM »
There is something that I have been wondering about. Do other N's seek out other N's? Now this may seem obvious and I know that the answer is a resounding yes, but I guess I'm wondering if people can give some more insight to this idea.

My N therapist was close friends with a mutual friend, the church N. The church N is a wealthy lady who could buy her friends. At first she roped people in by buying them with money and gifts; this was disguised as generosity and warmth. The Church N had this way of making wrong seem right.

Once she had you slightly hooked in her world, she would start asking you to do things for her, grocery shop, walk her dogs etc..

From time to time I would have dinner with her as I would sit and listen to her talk about her other friends, of course under the guise of caring. At someone point, since all conversation with the Church N eventually led to gossip, I started wondering what she was saying about me.

After about a year of friendship with Church N and while attending her parties I began to feel a coldness and distance from her other friends. I knew it was because she was saying something about me to them, I could feel it and NO I'm not paranoid.

It was if Church N wanted to be surrounded by popularity more than friends (her friends were objects). When church N brought her friends gifts it was because deep inside she didn't believe that just being herself was good enough to have friends. Then church N would gossip about everyone to everyone in an attempt to control and make sure her friends did not get too close to each other, perhaps they might end up talking about her, I don't know why she kept people pitted against each other with gossip?

Saint therapist N loved Church N. They were buddies. Church N let saint N have full run of her house in order to conduct her spiritual direction and therapy sessions. Church N babysat saint N's son. They were a pair.

What is so interesting to me is that Church N does have a warmth about her. She is extremely generous but only if others are watching or know about the fat check she is writing to whatever organization she is giving too. She gives and then would tell her friends all that she gave and to who. Nevertheless she gives and I think that Saint N whose mom was cold (she told me once) was seeking to fulfill her mom wish for respect and warmth through Church N.

After about a year and a half of the toxic mess of friendship, with these two woman, I just got tired of it and slowly pulled away.    I just wanted to get free of what felt like a junkyard of insults, gossip, projection and exploitation by these two woman who seemed to be puppets on strings for each other.

Are N's good at being friends with other N's? It would seem that this combination of N friendship (saint N with chruch N) did not serve to push buttons as they did for me instead it seems that these two N friends nurtured each others buttons.

Lise



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Re: Are NPD's attracted to other NPD's? (don't laugh)
« Reply #1 on: November 20, 2007, 05:17:48 PM »
I know that my own Nspots are magnetized to go SPLAT-CLANG! on the side of an N in shining armor...

(except I think I'm demagnetizing myself).

It used to feel like vicarious grandiosity (though I wouldn't have called it that) to be with an Ndazzler, Ntalented, Nclever, Nsexy mate...

Hopefully, I'm not a full-tilt N, but I am sure my inner "recognition" (as a former Co-D) AND my inner Nspots set me up perfectly for a few decades of Nchasing.

Iggggggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhh. Glad that's over.

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Gabben

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Re: Are NPD's attracted to other NPD's? (don't laugh)
« Reply #2 on: November 20, 2007, 05:58:24 PM »
Hi Hops,

That makes perfect sense. I certainly can see my N spots...need for praise and a desire to be the center of attention are my N spots. But they are and have been fading for a long time - there is a prayer that I'm going to post - it is a litany of humility. After I pray this litany I can feel the peace wave over me. Emptying of self...is the key to peace.

Thanks Hops.

Lise
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Deliver me, God
From the desire of being loved...
From the desire of being extolled ...
From the desire of being honored ...
From the desire of being praised ...
From the desire of being preferred to others...
From the desire of being consulted ...
From the desire of being approved ...
From the fear of being humiliated ...
From the fear of being despised...
From the fear of suffering rebukes ...
From the fear of being calumniated ...
From the fear of being forgotten ...
From the fear of being ridiculed ...
From the fear of being wronged ...
From the fear of being suspected ...

That others may be loved more than I,
God, grant me the grace to desire it.

That others may be esteemed more than I ...
That, in the opinion of the world,
others may increase and I may decrease ...
That others may be chosen and I set aside ...
That others may be praised and I unnoticed ...
That others may be preferred to me in everything...
That others may become holier than I, provided that I may become as holy as I should…





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Re: Are NPD's attracted to other NPD's? (don't laugh)
« Reply #3 on: November 20, 2007, 06:33:19 PM »
Hi Lise,

Well, with regard to my mother and my sister being the exact same personality, I am inclined to say no.  That an N cannot get along with another N.  Manys the time that I had to jump in my car and drive over to my mother's house, fearing that one would have done a mischief to the other.  Till one evening, I said enough is enough, and my sister came to live with me.

BIG MISTAKE !!!!  Long story!

But at least no-one got hurt.

Phew!

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Re: Are NPD's attracted to other NPD's? (don't laugh)
« Reply #4 on: November 20, 2007, 07:54:43 PM »
Hi Lise,

I have two older N sisters. When all three of us are together I feel like I am the net in a tennis match, oh I also duck!

Funny they each tell me separately  other sister N thinks they are so entitled, grandiose etc. They really believe they have nothing in common.
When the just described themselves. I am left speechless. It is amazing to watch such utter denial.

One gets so mad after talking to herself I mean her sister and will call me in a rage saying she is done and have no more patience to listen to sister it's all ME>>ME>>>ME>> she says.
Then continues to talk non stop about HER>>HER>>HER>> LOL
It's a battle and they love it in my opinion.

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