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Hopalong

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Re: one more punch in the teeth
« Reply #15 on: December 28, 2007, 07:57:48 PM »
Me too, Lup.
I'm sorry and I really understand how you feel.

I have no husband either, so when my D began to pull away, break agreements, do whatever she wanted, I had a whole lot of pain. I still will be angry about agreements...she just has a lot of growing up to do. Your son probably does too.

What I'm wondering about the night is, does he perhaps interpret his commitment to you is to spend the EVENING? But not be obligated about where he sleeps?

I mean, technically, the celebration and sharing is just about an evening...where one sleeps is a different thing?

(Though I'm sure you're right, that wanting to sleep with his GF has a lot to do with it too.)

I'm really sorry, I know it feels like abandonment.

But I believe it isn't.

It feels exactly the same as abandonment, but that's emotion...what's really happening is he's becoming defiant, independent.

I was enmeshed with my D -- my only child. So I really can relate to your pain.
It took me a LOT of struggle (and still does sometimes) to let her go.

love
Hops
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Lupita

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Re: one more punch in the teeth
« Reply #16 on: December 28, 2007, 08:25:07 PM »
Hop, that is why we never get boyfriends. Because we do not have room in our hearts. We love so much are babies that we do not leave any room for something else. Enmeshment? I guess, too much.
I know, we need to let go. I cannot imagine how you feel knowing that your baby is on a rainy highway driving with a uhaul, scared of the changes, getting so far from the only person who loves her unconditionally.
I feel terrified for my son. But like Izzy said, wanting to vomit is too much. The anxiety I feel is neurotic. I was healing a little, but it started again with GFM. That is the point. There is always something. This year was Dr. U, then the secretaries, then sixth period, then GFM, then Christmas, and the anxiety it causes me is too much. Not normal. Nobody should suffer su much for the normal problems of life.
We do. Why? FOO I guess. We are so f**ked up on our heads. That is what we have to fix.
The book says it is arrogance. We feel so superior and we do not get what we want and then feel frustrated, as a baby who did not get candy. But this is too much. I deserve my son's loyalty. But he is not being unloyal, just being human.
I still feel proud that I had a disagreement with you and another with CH and we dealed with it with dilignce, dignity, respect, and love. I am proud that in anymoment I felt attacked by you or CH. I truly felt like a disagreement. It is like if you are republican and I am democrat, or CH goes to the green party, we can be freinds and love each other. It does not matter who do yo voet for.
Rudolph, John, Mike, Hillary, they are humans. We are too.
I sound better, I had to take my anxiety pill. I do not usually take it. But the chemestry wins. So, if it is chemestry, why can I do my own chemestry on my own, working my issues. Hmmm.
I wish I could feel better with my own mental power.

Lupita

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Re: one more punch in the teeth
« Reply #17 on: December 28, 2007, 08:36:23 PM »
Izzy, that was wonderful. Did not bore me at all. I loved it. You are so strong!!!! I understand when you feel impatient with me, worring ofr things that are half og the things you have gone through. Maybe less tha that, maybe just a tenth of the things you have suffered. But, your strgnt kept you alive. You have inner strngt. I am trying to get it. HHHHAAAAAAAARRRRRRRDDDDDD work!!!! So, dont give up on me. I will get there. Next century? In heaven perhaps? Remember that I was sleeo walking through life for 50 years. I just recently wook up. So, in theory I am ten months old. LOL
Love.

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Re: one more punch in the teeth
« Reply #18 on: December 28, 2007, 08:52:10 PM »
Lupita - you have posted several times in this thread that you started to feel better this morning after reading a particular book.  I encourage you to obsess about this experience.  The way to healing is to replace the dark feelings with the good.  It takes a determination and an act of will. 

Because of your pain you are obsessing about what is hurting.  Two negative things will come of this: 1) the more you cling to your son the more you will drive him away and 2) the more you obsess about GFM the bigger and bigger the problem will grow.  By focusing on how you began to feel better this morning and gettting out the book and rereading the portion that helped you start to feel better you can actively decide that you chose healing over obsessing over the wounds.  Each time the anxiety and hurt bubble up replace them with the thoughts of your experience this morning.

We, the deeply N wounded, tend to obsess about the offenses from those we love.  That obsesing keeps us stuck.  It took me over 20 years in therapy to figure that out.  So why am I [are we] drawn to the pain?  Why is it easier to think about the offending action of others over and over rather than think about positive things  - like feeling better this morning?  I hav not gain much clarity on this.  I onlly have a half constructed theory.  But what I do know is that we get drawn into our obsessions over our hurts and it IS hard, very hard to delberately chose to think about the positive and let go of the negative.

I came accross a book this summer that was titled something like - Taking Offense is Satan's Power.  Freedom comes from forgiveness and letting go.  What makes this so hard?  It is much easier to ruminate over the pain than to agree to focus on something positive.  Take the hard road - chose healing tonight.  Focus on that wonderful experience of peace you had for a moment this morning.  Be willing to pick up that book again.  Take you power back from GFM.  It is yours - you gave it to her; now you take it back.

Hopalong

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Re: one more punch in the teeth
« Reply #19 on: December 28, 2007, 08:52:36 PM »
God bless the inventor of valium!

It's not a weakness. You have fought hard and learned everything you can in one long session.
Now you're giving your worked-up mind a rest. Eventually, you will learn self-soothing.
GOOD WORK, Lup!

xo
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Re: one more punch in the teeth
« Reply #20 on: December 28, 2007, 09:12:56 PM »
GS and hops, your posts are so deep that I have to imitate one of our posters, and I have to say I will think and get back to you later. My medicine gave me such a peaceful sadness , that even with tears in my eyes I have to tell you that I am speechless. Or maybe your posts do not need any response, only re read them adn digest them. Redundance again, easy to say, hard to do.
So, i guest I am reaching the last moments of my niht, beofre I do a strip tis in the board. I do not wnat to be baned ofrr indecent exposure, lol.
Night night, God bless you. You help me to night. Thank you.