How are you Lighter? Can you talk about discipline problems with your children? How many children do you have, what age?
Do we have any high school teachers here?
I have little children..... no teens yet but glad to talk about something I'm interested in, child discipline.
Do these kids care whether they pass or fail?
Do they suffer consequences when they fail?
Do they have to retake courses they fail?
How much do you suffer when children fail the course?
You can only do what you can do.
If they don't do the work, pay attention and participate..... then the natural consequence for that is failure, in my book.
I'd also send their cans right out of the class when they misbehaved..... they wouldn't be allowed to disrupt the class for the children who were paying attention.
I forget what you said about that..... sending kids to the principal's office.... it was a nightmare for you bc of something.... dealing with principal I seem to remember.
Discipline is a problem with these children, not just for you but everyone. I'd make sure the person responsible for dealing with that crap had a lap full of it.... the principal.
You've done all these really wonderful incentive type things to gain their cooperation. That's positive and that works for the children who're willing to be won over. For those who seem to be making a career out of creating chaos and disruptions..... better they be called on it now than keep going along without real consequences.
I'd shrug..... smile and ask them to please report to the principals office..... as many times as it took for them to get that I'm not bothered.... their behavior won't be tolerated and they probably won't be getting a passing grade for that kind of participation.
Not sure if that helps.... but you just know they aren't angels for all the other teachers, and just not you. No matter what anyone says..... they're disruptive eslewhere too. Allowing them to get away with that isn't doing them any favors, IMO.
