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sunblue

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Comparing ourselves to others
« on: February 19, 2008, 09:27:39 AM »
Lately, I've really come to recognize how there are people out there who do not, as I seem to constantly do, compare themselves to others.  Their expectations seem much lower (or perhaps more reasonable) and thus they seem more accepting and happier in their lives.

On the other hand, I seem to be flooded always with feelings of complete failure.  I compare myself to others out there who are so much more successful, wealthy, have more, do more, are more.  People have tried to point out to me that these people are the exception, and not the rule, in our society....but still I feel like a total failure.  I know part of this comes from being raised by an Nmom who literally only values money and success and material possessions.  But still......my sense of failure seems to fuel my deep depression.

Sometimes I wish so that I could be like those others who don't compare themselves with others...who can be happy with what they have or others.  Of course, I think our society fuels much of this.  We are set up to value celebrities, athletes and other "starlets" who make millions and millions of dollars for doing not a whole lot.  We are set up to value people who can buy $1,000 handbags and $600 shoes, live in megamansions and can jetset all over the world, who are physically beautiful and perfect.

I'm left feeling like literally nothing, a total failure.  I'm wondering how you change that?  Why is it some people don't compare themselves and are happy with their circumstances?  Perhaps those are more healthy people who grew up in more healthy families....? 

Perhaps because I have never felt good enough, nothing I do or have can be good enough?  It seems to be a vicious circle....

I always wanted to be or feel special...and I never was....Perhaps if I was ever made to feel that way when I was young, I could feel better about myself.  Perhaps then I wouldn't have identified myself so completely with what I do for a living...and then when those circumstances changed, I wouldn't have felt like such a loser....

Can anyone here identify?

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Re: Comparing ourselves to others
« Reply #1 on: February 19, 2008, 10:42:40 AM »
((sunblue)),

This is a great thread. This is something I have been working on for a long time.
I envy people who have a free spirit and you can feel they are so comfortable in their own skin. Priceless, what a gift!


I don't envy status I envy freedom to just be.

Being surrounded by many N's I can see how that would be taken away from us. We have to fight back, all the lies behind them we need to find the truth, what matters, WE matter.

sunblue your posts always hit a place in my heart. I feel your pain and frustration.

Looking forward to others insight. As this can be very painful and hard to work through. seasons
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Re: Comparing ourselves to others
« Reply #2 on: February 19, 2008, 11:57:46 AM »
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This is a great thread. This is something I have been working on for a long time.
I envy people who have a free spirit and you can feel they are so comfortable in their own skin. Priceless, what a gift!

I don't envy status I envy freedom to just be.

This is a great thread, thank you, and may i just share personally;

Freedom to BE may come with a price of non-acceptance, sometimes, maybe, the envy thread was on track for me after all, perhaps.

I only know this, that no matter which course in life one takes, whether it be a consumeristic journey, or a simplistic journey,

neither one with be travelled along without some grumblings, against oneself, along the way.

There is no easy path, it seems to me.

I have chosen to BE, with an authentic self;  with inner values and outer choices.   I cannot perceive any other way, to BE.

When I was married and had a nice house -- grumblings.  "it's okay for you, for you have a nice house"
Whilst I am now on my own in a little abode -- grumblings.   "it's okay for you, for you can easily adapt to have less"

Of which, the experience reads as a No-Win scenario.

However,

I feel, that the only way to BE  is to be true to  one's own Authentic inner self - and WIN a life that is worth every step of the journey, stones an all !!

But that's just me -- compost at free will   :)

Love to all,

Leah x
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Re: Comparing ourselves to others
« Reply #3 on: February 19, 2008, 01:18:48 PM »
Hi Sun,

I was so glad to read this post.
You are questioning the status quo and challenging the brainwashing that may have contributed to your depression.

These are the sounds of a stirring spirit!
I think you're beginning to fight back!

I am so impressed and pleased for you.

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« Reply #4 on: February 19, 2008, 01:26:28 PM »

Hi Sun,

I was so glad to read this post.
You are questioning the status quo and challenging the brainwashing that may have contributed to your depression.

These are the sounds of a stirring spirit!

I think you're beginning to fight back!

I am so impressed and pleased for you.

love,
Hops

YES!  Sunblue

Very much so!  You are kicking the goad -- and questioning!   

Which is such brilliant news for you!   

Brainwashing is ebbing away ........ down the stream of despair.

AND

Fresh streams of living vibrant water WILL then be able to flow INner most, giving you a new life, with new beginnings, to WIN.

Love to you,

Leah
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Re: Comparing ourselves to others
« Reply #5 on: February 19, 2008, 03:01:59 PM »
Dear Sun
  At times in my life when I was healthier,I did not compare myself to other's very much. When I was "sicker",I did.
  I think that my goal ,now, is to get my "core" for myself. I can feel myself stray sometimes,usually wishing I had a better M ,so I did not have to struggle so much with my sense of self,but comparing ALWAYS hurts us.
  This was a great thread. Thank you, Sun.                 Love    Ami

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Re: Comparing ourselves to others
« Reply #6 on: February 19, 2008, 04:47:18 PM »
Hi everybody!

Thanks for all your comments and insights.  I wasn't sure if my thread topic would resonate with anyone.  Izzy, yes, I can definitely see how all my current feelings stem from low self-esteem.  I've always recognized that I have no self esteem and a really poor image of myself.  My past doctors have all commented on that.

Intellectually, I know that a lot of people out there have much more serious problems and ailments.....but all I seem to be able to see in this world are the people who are doing so much better than I....the people who have never struggled to find work, to find a mate, to have children...to feel good about themselves....to have real success. 

Today, in our paper there was an interesting article based on this new book in which the author says we focus too much on "happiness".  He claims that real happiness comes from a balance of joy and misery in life....that joy without any misery will leave us unbalanced, not wanting to push forward and improve things.  I agree that balance is a good thing and people around me seem to have that...But in my case, I can honestly say I have had the misery without the joy to balance it.  I do think I was the one in my family most directly affected by the NPD of my mother and sister.....I felt the most rejected, dejected and ignored.  Perhaps that has contributed to my lack of self-esteem and joylessness.

So, it is difficult for me to have any hope...even if one tiny thing positive happens to me (like an impending job offer, for example), I immediately compare myself to others who didn't have to struggle for it, who are doing well and have so much more than I.  The end result is I feel even more sad and depressed and hopeless.  Intellectually, I know it's wrong...but emotionally I just can't seem to change it.  So, I never feel I measure up or am good enough.  Perhaps that comes from my famiily where my Nsister always got all the attention....and success.  I can never compete or measure up.  Consequently, nothing seems to matter to me....Even things that happen that I know other people would be happy about, inside, I just feel..."So what?  It doesn't matter because it's not good enough...."

Alas, I know this is a life-long battle.  I sometimes wonder why I am the only one in my family who has been so affected....It's ironic...because growing up...I was always the one who worked the hardest, studied the hardest...got the best grades....went out of my way for other people....Yes, I find myself the loser.....

I don't know...I do thank you for all your input and comments....It's so hard when you have no one to talk to about these things.  It's nice that there are others who understand....

I understand too that it could be my life long depression continues to cloud any rational thinking patterns I may have left...When you're clinically depressed, all of life is shrouded in dark clouds...you can't see clearly....

I do wish very much that I were regarded as special.....that I could have been made to feel special by someone when I was young or even later.....I see what a difference that makes in people....My niece, for example, is cherished and lavished with attention by her parents, family and friends.  At her young age, she is filled with confidence and positive self-esteem, I am just in awe....but I can also see how she came by it....Sometimes I look at her and can't help but think what it might have been like if someone had noticed me like that....

I guess all of life is a struggle....everyone has their issues, some more than others.....but still struggles...Sometimes it's hard to see that when you're surrounded by people who are successful, lucky, and happy.

Just a little vent....just really wanted to say a big thank you for your kind and generous thoughts and insights.  It truly is helpful.