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Gabben

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On false spiritual peace
« on: February 20, 2008, 04:42:12 PM »
The man who finds fault with himself accepts all things cheerfully—misfortune, loss, disgrace, dishonor and any other kind of adversity. He believes that he is deserving of all these things and nothing can disturb him. No one could be more at peace than this man. 

But perhaps you will offer me this objection: “Suppose my brother injures me, and on examining myself I find that I have not given him any cause. Why should I blame [1] myself?”

Certainly if someone examines himself carefully and with fear of God, he will never find himself completely innocent. He will see that he has given some provocation by an action, a word, or by his manner. If he does find that he is not guilty in any of these ways, certainly he must have injured that brother somehow at some other time. Or perhaps he has been a source of annoyance to some other brother. For this reason he deserves to endure the injury because of many other sins that he has committed on other occasions.

Someone else asks why he should accuse himself when he was sitting peacefully and quietly when a brother came upon him with an unkind or insulting word. He cannot tolerate it, and so he thinks that his anger is justified. If that brother had not approached him and said those words and upset him, he never would have sinned.

This kind of thinking is surely ridiculous and has no rational basis. For the fact that he has said anything at all in this situation breaks the cover on the passionate anger within him, which is all the more exposed by his excessive anxiety. If he wished, he would do penance. He has become like a clean, shiny grain of wheat that, when broken, is full of dirt inside.

The man who thinks that he is quiet and peaceful has within him a passion that he does not see. A brother comes up, utters some unkind word and immediately all the venom and mire that lie hidden within him are spewed out. If he wishes mercy, he must do penance, purify himself and strive to become perfect. He will see that he should have returned thanks to his brother instead of returning the injury, because his brother has proven to be an occasion of profit to him. It will not be long before he will no longer be bothered by these temptations. The more perfect he grows, the less these temptations will affect him. For the more the soul advances, the stronger and more powerful it becomes in bearing the difficulties that it meets.


Oh, how I hope so - Lord knows how I need to advance. -Gabben
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Ami

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Re: On false spiritual peace
« Reply #1 on: February 20, 2008, 04:48:14 PM »
IMO, that post illustrates HOW the board can help us. We bring who we are ,here, and we can grow by all our interactions, good and bad. That is why I see the "bad" ones, as opportunities.
 I told the person who hurt me the most,'Thanks for the lesson" and I meant it. She never bothered me ,again(lol)
  It does not always feel good ,at the time, but it is like a medicine, in that it WILL heal you,if you walk through it. I guess it would  be the same ,in real life,but it is harder in 3D ,than in cyberspace(IMO) . Also, in real life, there is not usually a place to "process it", which was just pointed out by my friend . On the board, we can walk through it AND process it, so it can lead to profound healing.                          Love   Ami
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No one can make you feel inferior without your consent.        Eleanor Roosevelt

Most of our problems come from losing contact with our instincts,with the age old wisdom stored within us.
   Carl Jung

Gabben

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Re: On false spiritual peace
« Reply #2 on: February 20, 2008, 04:55:31 PM »
IMO, that post illustrates HOW the board can help us. We bring who we are ,here, and we can grow by all our interactions, good and bad. That is why I see the "bad" ones, as opportunities.
 I told the person who hurt me the most,'Thanks for the lesson" and I meant it. She never bothered me ,again(lol)
  It does not always feel good ,at the time, but it is like a medicine, in that it WILL heal you,if you walk through it. I guess it would be the same ,in real life,but it is harder in 3D ,than in cyberspace(IMO) . Also, in real life, there is not usually a place to "process it", which was just pointed out by my friend . On the board, we can walk through it AND process it, so it can lead to profound healing.                          Love   Ami

Yep, It hurts my pride or ego to think that my annoyance with someone even though they may have a greater fault is a result of my own making. But I already knew that along time ago. What this person did was trigger a deep deep wound and allow for me to work it out.

Rather than deny my feelings I am facing them and working through them. My hope is to grow strong so that I will not be bothered by the annoyances. It also made me think that we can't fight evil head on, we have to be gentle and sneak behind enemy lines with real love.

So much for me to work on. I am feeling better though.

As we say in AA it is progress not perfection.


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Re: On false spiritual peace
« Reply #3 on: February 20, 2008, 04:59:18 PM »
It seems like you learned many lessons,Lise. I want to learn them ,ALREADY .It is "for the birds" to keep repeating them(LOL)                                       Love    Ami
No one can make you feel inferior without your consent.        Eleanor Roosevelt

Most of our problems come from losing contact with our instincts,with the age old wisdom stored within us.
   Carl Jung

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Re: On false spiritual peace
« Reply #4 on: February 20, 2008, 05:36:03 PM »
Dear Lise,

This is perfectly timed and absolutely wonderful. Thank you so much for sharing it here... and I'm so glad that you're feeling better and recognizing progress. I greatly appreciate you... your thoughts, insights, honesty, and kind heart.

With love,
Carolyn

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Re: On false spiritual peace
« Reply #5 on: February 20, 2008, 06:44:27 PM »
Hi Carolyn,

Glad this was a good read for you.

This part of the article was great:

"strive to become perfect."

Perfection is an option but one that we will always be striving for, at least in this lifetime :wink:.

Hugs and blessings,

Lise

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Re: On false spiritual peace
« Reply #6 on: February 20, 2008, 07:14:42 PM »
Dear Lise,

Could you please share with me... what do you understand the word "perfect" to mean?

I'm thinking of perfection in terms of completeness and wholeness... in Christ. Is there more?

Thanks!

Love,
Carolyn

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Re: On false spiritual peace
« Reply #7 on: February 20, 2008, 08:13:34 PM »
Hi Carolyn,

Yes, it is completeness and wholeness but I also think it is about love. Being better at loving others.

If we can love our enemies then I think we are more than half way there.

Perfect is a word I just do not like because I doubt I can ever attain anything like it.

Lise

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« Reply #8 on: February 20, 2008, 08:25:26 PM »
Thank you, Lise. I think you're right.

If being perfect means absolute zero self-involvement, then as you say, neither praise nor insult could move us... and only then are we free to love from a pure heart.

Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father in heaven is perfect...

not perfect by any human standard.

Carolyn

Gabben

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Re: On false spiritual peace
« Reply #9 on: February 20, 2008, 08:27:50 PM »
Thank you, Lise. I think you're right.

If being perfect means absolute zero self-involvement, then as you say, neither praise nor insult could move us... and only then are we free to love from a pure heart.

Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father in heaven is perfect...

not perfect by any human standard.

Carolyn



LOL -- no wonder they regard the spiritual life like climbing a mountain.

For those of us who have had abusive childhood it is like having to jump out of quicksand and then climb the mountain.

Lise

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Re: On false spiritual peace
« Reply #10 on: February 20, 2008, 08:30:08 PM »
Thank you, Lise. I think you're right.

If being perfect means absolute zero self-involvement, then as you say, neither praise nor insult could move us... and only then are we free to love from a pure heart.

Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father in heaven is perfect...

not perfect by any human standard.

Carolyn



LOL -- no wonder they regard the spiritual life like climbing a mountain.

For those of us who have had abusive childhood it is like having to jump out of quicksand and then climb the mountain.

Lise

Yup. But then, we have a faithful Yoke-fellow and an everpresent Comforter, dear Lise.

Love,
Carolyn