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Somatic Narcissist turned Cerebral Narcissist

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phoenix:
bye

Onyx:
Phoenix

That was a pile of crap that I just wrote. I posted without really thinking fully about what I was writing. Having had a soak in the bath, I've thought of a much better way of explaining it and I'll post it tomorrow.

I'm out tonight  :wink:  so gotta dash.

David

Anonymous:
[btw - my nickname is Jenocidal - for some reason I can't sign in and post today]

Great post Onyx!  I can assure you, my mother has turned into a fullon cerebral narcissist.  She NEVER liked human contact... touching was strictly "out".  But she liked to harness power over men with her beauty and sexual potency.

These days, now that she is older (44 yrs old), she's gone from sexy cougar conqueress to total cerebral narcissism.  She hates men.  Doesn't want anything to do with men, but is so nonreproachable about taking a job (as she has no job experience due to a life of fearing insubordination due to her narcissism) that she refuses to work.  Welfare doesn't afford the luxeries she requires, so during only DESPERATE times, she uses her sexual potency to get money and "things" from men to further her self-centered needs of becomming a famouns 'talk radio show host" "book author" "rockstar" "movie writer" " of having royal family blood linage"  ... the list goes on.

I've seen a complete transition in behavior over the last 14 years.

My mother is so uncomfortable with intimacy, she can't even hug her own children or tell them she loves them.  For that is weak.  She preeches to her children that having children will ruin our lives.  She blithers on about how she needs no man.. hates men.  And tried to instill those moral rulesets in me (which I've always vehemently opposed).

She seems pretty classic cerebral according to any of the definitons.

Anonymous:
oh!  - her narcissistic supply is clearly of a cerebral nature now.  She constantly seeks out reassurance from people in general, all genders.  However, she refuses to work, earn her own way in life... so during those times when she needs major purchases, expenditures of money, she will "lower" herself to sexual relations with one of 3 or so men she will have strung along at any given time, say via the internet.  Aside from that, she wishes to remain single and intellectualize for the remainder of her life (bare in mind she is a young 44).  She boasts to people of her solitude and intellectual ponderings.  She has made a mock radio show on her private website where she "interviews" men and women of intellectual significance to her, then posts the recordings on her site along with her other failed projects that she still tries to peddle.

I have Crohn's disease which I got rather young (7 yrs old), and my mother would take great joy in one-upping the doctor at any turn, even if it meant my health.  She would go out of her way to put me on treatments that were not conventional, anything, as long as it wasn't what the "doctor" ordered.  Then, when I would have serious Crohn's attcks, and needed a ride to emergency, she would REFUSE to take me, force me to call my friends mothers at 2 in the morning to ask them to take me... even if her and I were in the same house.  Doesn't sound like a mother that really cares for her childs health to me.

~Jenocidal

write:
I think Sam Vaknin is rubbish too...about every personality defect and disorder crammed into his narcissistic writing.

One thing I do think- is what my husband's psychiatrist told him when she first saw him: everyone is more than any one label.

I have Crohn's disease which I got rather young (7 yrs old), and my mother would take great joy in one-upping the doctor at any turn, even if it meant my health. She would go out of her way to put me on treatments that were not conventional, anything, as long as it wasn't what the "doctor" ordered.

Goodness, I'm sorry you suffered such child abuse/ neglect.

But I'm not surprised if Munchausen's by proxy is related to cluster B personality disorders.
It fits doesn't it.


I doubt there's any schism between cerebral narcissist/ somatic narcissist: if attention and n supply is required, the narcissist will manipulate whatever it takes
( in fact, so will the borderline/ histrionic and antisocial pd too; anything rather than being alone at peace with the self )

She has made a mock radio show on her private website where she "interviews" men and women of intellectual significance to her, then posts the recordings on her site along with her other failed projects that she still tries to peddle.

well, this is always a problem for creative people: are we grandiose on launching our unproven talents or projects, or are we seeking artistic expression.

What made you pick the name jenocidal?
It sounds so violent.
Are you angry?

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